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"I agree with Taliesn except I haven't noticed the stupidity-driven collapse phenomenon."

Willie-O

The exact point was " ..gross over-production as Mariah Carey did before the stupidity of it all collapsed ."

I was referring to Mariah Carey's self-puffery to the point of producing the gawd-awful movie "Sparkle" which crached & burned at the box office and she's been ,since ,licking her over-marketed wounds while trying to lose excess poundage.

Maria Carey stiill has a fantastic gift of a voice ,but her material and then its over-indulgent production got out ahead of her.
Would love to hear her drop the Pop-crap and pretend to grow up ( she's in her 30's now ) and do some Jazz . Diane Krall has proven that classy performances of classy material has a very enthusiastic audience qand Carey's voice is definitely there.

So , too ,with Shania whom hasn't done a movie yet , but if her over-produced videos are any indication then you've seen the pattern.
That's what I meant.