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Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?

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MOTHER, MAY I GO OUT TO SWIM (BATHING SONG)


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Penny S. 20 Nov 00 - 01:15 PM
MARINER 20 Nov 00 - 01:42 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 20 Nov 00 - 02:48 PM
Penny S. 20 Nov 00 - 04:19 PM
Penny S. 20 Nov 00 - 04:29 PM
fat B****rd 20 Nov 00 - 04:36 PM
Penny S. 20 Nov 00 - 04:44 PM
GUEST,Bruce O. 20 Nov 00 - 07:17 PM
Steve Parkes 21 Nov 00 - 11:43 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 21 Nov 00 - 11:58 AM
Penny S. 21 Nov 00 - 05:39 PM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 22 Nov 00 - 05:16 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 22 Nov 00 - 05:34 AM
roopoo 23 Nov 00 - 01:04 AM
Penny S. 23 Nov 00 - 05:02 PM
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Subject: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 01:15 PM

I've now set this up properly, having properly messed up the last attempt, in which I didn't know this was what I wanted when I started the thread (lost hope), so I couldn't put a proper "name of song" title on it.

During WW2, Polish airmen brought this song over here, and it became popular, so I'm told. I don't know most of the words, and would like to. In English. I note from the parody in the DT that there are verses, and I suspect I only know the tune of the chorus, too.

Any help out there?

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: MARINER
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 01:42 PM

Penny S. Are you sure it's not the old 50s/60s hit "Yes my darling Daughter" Which begins. Mother may I go out dancing? "Yes my darling daughter"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 02:48 PM

"Mother, may I go out to swim. Yes, my darling daughter" is part of the chorus of "The Bathing Song", 1908. See text and tune on my website. Scarce Songs 1, www.erols.com/olsonw


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 04:19 PM

That is, I think, the one, recorded in the 50's, but I remember being told that the source was a Polish song, brought to Britain by the airmen, and becoming popular in a similar way to Lilli Marlene (apart from being sung by the same side) and Aupres de ma blonde from the Canadians. I can't remember knowing the song and not "knowing" that. Could it be wrong?

I found the bathing song in the DT, and thought it to be a parody.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 04:29 PM

And I'm checking it out on Bruce's site, which I can now, on my own machine, get into. Nanny's sacked.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 04:36 PM

The early sixties version of the european folk song was by Eydie Gorme and entitled "Yes, My Darling Daughter" . In the UK it was on CBS.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 04:44 PM

And Bruce has a reference from 1908, with an author and composer for the bathing song, which is obviously the same thing. I'll have to investigate my oral tradition, but I'm not sure if it was my mother or father who told me, or if I heard it on the radio, long back. It's not impossible that we are both right, but there would have to be some sort of evidence. We did have Poles here, flying with the RAF, and major players in the Battle of Britain - have to say that because of the rumours that Hollywood is writing them out. There may well be some people near where I live who could tell me, as there was a hospital occupied by Poles who stayed over here until recently - Solidarnosc (?sp) badges could be seen in the town during the changes over there.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 20 Nov 00 - 07:17 PM

Note that the chorus is even in the Opies, 'The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Nov 00 - 11:43 AM

"Yes my darling daughter" was a hit in the war, I believe. There's a bit of ilm of happy munitions workers filling shells or whatever while Listening to "Workers' Playtime" and joining in the tag line. I bet Roger the Skiffler is old enough to remember it -- Roger? There was a "No my darling daughter" too, as sung by Dad instead of Mum; the outcome was the same in the end. It's like "No John no" and suchlike, so it's probably based on something traditional.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 21 Nov 00 - 11:58 AM

Yes, Steve, I remember hearing it while they shoved me up chimneys as a nipper.[NOTE to N.Americans: this is irony!]I can hear the tune and refrain in my head but not the full words. Didn't Al McOgan, referred to elsewhere record, it?
RtS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 21 Nov 00 - 05:39 PM

Bruce, I didn't mention the Opies above, because I'm following it up....it has just the sort of structure for being picked up as a children's rhyme, doesn't it.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 22 Nov 00 - 05:16 AM

I've just had a flash (Yes, judge I know I said I'd stop) of inspiration or a light through the mists of CRS: wasn't this used as the theme in a UK film, light Ealing-comedy style thing with John & Juliet Mills who I think sang it off screen?
I still can't remember the verses but I think it was all "Yes, my darling daughter" as the courtship progressed till the end when it was "No!". Innocent days before "Wham, Bam, thank you mam".
RtS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 22 Nov 00 - 05:34 AM

A quick look at the All-Music Guide shows recordings by Dinah Shore, Andrews Sisters,Eddie Reed,Helen Forrest, Goodman, Miller and Great British Dance bands which puts its popularity firmly 30s/40s, but no help on lyrics.
RtS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: roopoo
Date: 23 Nov 00 - 01:04 AM

As far as I remember, and I was but a sprog, the few words I can bring to mind are (without breaks, sorry!)

Mother may I go out dancing?/Yes my darling daughter/Mother may I try romancing?/Yes my darling daughter.

Mother if he tries to kiss me, and..../Mother must I keep on dancing?/Yes my darling daughter.

Then there was something along the lines of: Mother if I start to shiver, and my legs they start to quiver/Mother must I...?/Yes my darling daughter.

Sorry it's disjointed, but I've had to drag around in my very muddled brain. I have an Andrews Sisters album, but not with that track. It was definitely on the radio in the late 50s and early 60s, but I have no idea who sang it. It always used to be the same recording.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mother may I go out dancing?
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Nov 00 - 05:02 PM

So, fat B******d, do you have any more information on its European folk origins?

Penny


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