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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Mad jock Date: 24 Apr 19 - 07:11 AM The now disbanded TANGLEFOOT had several narrative songs which may fit within your permitted range. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: mg Date: 18 Apr 19 - 01:43 AM I am winding up a new cd called for those in peril on the sea. I will include the Ocean Ranger song on it and expecting a new one from great songwriter about how the town of St. Lawrence I believed came to the rescue of a ship in distress. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST Date: 17 Apr 19 - 11:42 PM wreck of ss langlecrag on Belle Isle Newfoundland written by Wayne Bartlett ,quripon,Newfoundland |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: mg Date: 29 Oct 15 - 07:56 PM see the thread on the whale watching boat that just went down off Tofino in BC Canada. I am sure this will lead to some songs of remembrance...does any one know if any have been written yet? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST Date: 29 Oct 15 - 05:50 PM Please note my authorship of the Stompin.Tom Conners Song: http://www.larrysdesk.com/larrys-music.html |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,DTM Date: 22 Feb 14 - 12:13 PM Thanks for the info re 'fact or fiction', Maeve. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: maeve Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:23 PM Yes- mentioned in the first post of this thread and once or twice in addition: " "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" Gordon Lightfoot [The ship sank in Lake Superior on November 1, 1975]" |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,DTM Date: 21 Feb 14 - 12:29 PM Wreck of the Edmund's Fitzgerald - Gordon Lightfoot. Not sure of the spelling or if the song is fact or fiction. Anybody? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Fraoch Date: 21 Feb 14 - 10:28 AM Thanks for all the support, folks! You might be interested in checking out the updated disatersongs.ca website, especially the blog entries that I've started posting. http://disastersongs.ca/website-updates/ There are several new songs too, especially about the Miss Ally and Westray. BTW, I was excited to read about Spirit of the West's "Mum's the Word," but it turns out that it was about the Giant Mine explosion in the Northwest Territories. Both events occurred in 1992. Since it's not about an Atlantic Canadian disaster, I won't include it on the website. However, my research colleague, Joe Scanlon, will be interested in it since he's beginning work on disaster songs from across Canada. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: sciencegeek Date: 07 Dec 13 - 06:57 AM Update from Heather- thought you might enjoy this little interview I did about the disaster songs research project for CBC in Gander. Cheers, Heather Hi Heather, Attached is the link to our interview which we aired on Central Morning recently. Thanks again for the chat. It was great fun. Sorry I had to edit so much out for time :/ http://www.cbc.ca/centralmorning/episodes/2013/11/29/the-disaster-songs-of-atlantic-canada/ |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Arnold McBay Date: 09 Aug 13 - 04:26 PM I'm pretty sure that Spirit of the West also recorded a song about the Westray Mine disaster called Mum's the Word. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST Date: 08 May 13 - 01:07 PM |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:42 AM My congratulations to Dr. Heather Sparling! Heather has posted as a guest on this thread gathering information. Heather was kind enough to invite me to a reception for this event but I was not able to attend. She was more than kind in thanking me for playing a very small part with her research. This is copied from the Cape Breton Post: SYDNEY — CBU's Heather Sparling has been named a Tier 2 Canada Research Chair in Musical Traditions. Topics : Tier 2 Canada Research Chair , Musical Traditions Sparling, an associate professor of ethnomusicology, will become the Canada Research Chair in Musical Traditions in July. The award is valued at $500,000 over five years. "This is a pretty amazing opportunity," says Sparling. "It will allow me more time to do my research and there will be some money allowed to fund my research costs." Sparling's research focuses on how traditional music is sustained by communities, and how it, in turn, sustains communities. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: sciencegeek Date: 06 May 12 - 08:18 AM good luck with your funding request. and start thinking about doing a symposium paper for Mystic Seaport about your progress on the Maritime Disaster song project. (totally unsubtle plug) they are always looking for presenters, besides being an excellent resource for material. and I'd like to thank "mg" for putting Heather in touch with the hubby regarding his song... I can hardly wait for her updates on the songwriting process... her interview/podcast was great and really thought provoking http://www.canadashistory.ca/Education/New-Research/Articles/The-Disaster-Song-Tradition.aspx |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: gnu Date: 05 May 12 - 05:25 PM Why is this thread below the line? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: ollaimh Date: 04 May 12 - 09:05 PM jack hinks? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,mg Date: 04 May 12 - 02:44 PM Congratulations..and did I say that a woman here, now well into retirement, was the phone operator as a young teenager during the Springhill disaster...if she is still well I could put her in contact...mg |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: gnu Date: 04 May 12 - 02:22 PM My old man used to sing a song about The Saxby Gale and what it did at "The Bend" (Moncton, NB). I'll see if any of my elderly relatives recall it... I can't. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Beer Date: 01 Apr 12 - 11:50 AM Congratulations Joe and best of luck in your application for funding. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST Date: 01 Apr 12 - 02:43 AM The canadian disaster song project is rolling along and the posting have been an enormous help. Our study of songs about mass death incidents in Nova Scotia mines is beingg published shortly in the International Journal of Mass Emergencies and Disasters. Our study of folk sons about Titanic appeared this past weekin Canadian Folk Music. We are doing a presentation on songs about major Canadian incidents at the conference of the Canadian Society for Traditional Music ay Ryerson University in May. I just fionished copying the words for two songs we mention in that presentation from a posting on this list serve. We have made a proposal for more funding from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (Heather Sparling already has received two small grants). If we get more funding we will be doing some travelling and will be making personal contact with mnay of you. Mudcat Cafe is mentioned as a key source in our proposal. Joe Scanlon Carleton U |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 18 May 11 - 09:44 PM It's interesting to see "Rescue from the Springhill Coal Mine" Don Miller listed. Don was a dear friend of mine and I sang at his funeral. He knew more about "old country" songs than anyone I ever knew or met. He wrote some good stuff as well and although I have heard him sing this song I do not know how it went at this time. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: A---V Date: 18 May 11 - 09:29 PM Hi! I'm a researcher for Professor Joe Scanlon. We have now completed a study of songs about mining disasters and a study of songs about the Titanic. This research has suggested that folk songs are a more accurate representation of what actually happens in disasters than are other forms of popular culture (such as movies, novels, ect.). We want to understand why. To do this, we are expanding our study of folk songs to include many other Canadian incidents and are thus looking for more songs – all suggestions about any Canadian disaster related songs are welcome! Any information would be excellent – the song title, name of the artist, where we can find the words, what it is about etc. I have pasted our current list of songs below. We are missing information for some. Corrections are also welcome. Thanks for your time, A---V "(The) Miramichi Fire" Unknown Words by John Jardine [This is about a fire which swept through the Miramichi region of New Brunswick in 1825] "(The) Miramichi Fire" – 1 "(The) Miramichi Fire" -II and IV "(The) Miramichi Fire" – III "Seven Bells Waltzes" Dulder, F. [THIS IS APPARENTLY INSTRUMENTS ONLY – BUT IT IS ABOUT THE MIRAMICHI FIRE WHICH STARTED OCTOBER 5TH 1825] Doucette, Edmund "The Miramichi Fire" [This is about a devastating and fatal forest fire along the Miramichi in 1825] "The Union from St. John's" UNKNOWN "The Wreck of the Union" UNKNOWN "Franklin and His Bold Crew" as sung by Angelo Dornan, Elgin, N.B. This is short song about the failed Franklin expedition. They left England in 1845 with 200 men, never to return again "Franklin and his Ship's Crew" is a different song than Creighton sited in her book Folksongs from Southern New Brunswick "(The) Franklin Expedition" -A as "sung by Joe Cooke, Fortune Harbour, 1929. Words from James Day, Fortune Harbour, 1929." "(The) Franklin Expedition" -B "Words from Mrs. Minnie Payne, Green Point, 1929." "Lady Franklin's Lament" Unknown THIS IS ABOUT THE LOSS OF THE FRANKLIN EXPEDITION IN THE CANADIAN ARCTIC IN 1845 "The Franklin Expedition" –C "Words from Stephen John Lewis, Fleur de Lys, 1929." "The Excel" performed by Mary "Min" Caul (Arnold's Cove), 1977 "The Excel" performed by Dorman Ralph (St. John's 1977) "The Loss of the Atlantic" Unknown "The Wreck of the Atlantic" from the singing and recitation of Robert Langille (Tatamagouche, Colchester County) "(La) Complainte de Springhill" Unknown" [May be the first Springhill, Nova Scotia mine disaster – February 21, 1891] "Springhill Mine Disaster (1891)" Performed by Ruth Metcalfe for Helen Creighton. (Creighton p. 185) "Loss of the Maggie" UNKNOWN "The Maggie" UNKNOWN "The Greenland Disaster" UNKNOWN "(The) Ballad of the Frank Slide" Robert Gard [Rocks from Turtle Mountain came crashing down on Frank, Alberta – April 29, 1902] "Crashing Down" Tanglefoot [Another song about the Frank slide, April 29, 1903, when rocks came crashing down from Turtle Mountain, hitting the town of Frank, Alberta and barely missing a passing train, leaving more than 70 residents dead.] The singers say they tell a tangential story that is in fact fiction. "Frank Slide" (The) Travellers [April 29, 1903, rocks came crashing down from Turtle Mountain, hitting the town of Frank, Alberta and barely missing a passing train, leaving more than 70 residents dead.] "How the Mountain Came Down" Stompin' Tom Connors [Presumably this is about the Frank Slide April 29, 1903, rocks came crashing down from Turtle Mountain, hitting the town of Frank, Alberta and barely missing a passing train, leaving more than 70 residents dead.] The album is called Tragedy Trail "The Timmins 100th Anniversary Song" Susan (Stanlake) Gauthier (Vocals), Tony Last (Bass), Michael Armstrong (Harmonica), Diane Armstrong (Keyboard, Music & Lyrics) – This song recounts "One Hundred Years of History" for the Town of Timmins. One of the Four verses describes the South Porcupine Fire. There is also a French translation of the song. "Loss of John Harvey" UNKOWN "The Wreck of the John Harvey" Stompin' Tom Connors "The Wreck of the John Harvey" The Dorymen (on album "20 Great Hits of Newfoundland") "The Wreck of the John Harvey" Lillian Crewe Walsh Hutchison, Frank "(The) Last Scene of the Titanic" Recorded April 29, 1927 in St. Louis [Titanic sank in the Atlantic in 1912 but many bodies were brought to Halifax] "Titanic" Unknown Smith, Vesey and William "When that Great Ship went Down" [This is the one about Titanic which sank in the Atlantic in 1912] "The Band's Still Playing" Lennie Gallant "Titanic: A New Musical" Peter Stone (book) and Maury Yeston (lyrics and music) Parsons, Marion "(The) Newfoundland Sealing Disaster" (2004) Parsons, Marion "I will bring you home" A song about the Newfoundland sealing disaster "Young, Young Man" Modabo [This is on the Newfoundland Sealing Disaster]. "The Southern Cross" Unknown "Newfoundland Sealers" Bill Gallaher "The Newfoundland Disaster" Jean Pardy [ABOUT THE SEALING DISASTER?? Dufour, Cyrice "(La) catastrophe de l'Empress of Ireland" [This song has been issued by Radio Canada and is on the CD "Chants et complaintes maritimes de Terres francaises d'Amerique"} Three Points Gone (Celtic Band) NOT SURE OF TITLE OF SONG BUT CD WITH THE SONG IS TITLED, "There is a ship" Lawrence, Susan "Empress of Ireland" [This has been non-commercially recorded by Sweet Tyme]. Morton, Brian "(The) Empress of Ireland" Brian Morton's [This is in his CD "A Lonely Cairn of Stones"] "Hillcrest Mine" James Keelaghan [There were a series of gas explosions in the Hillcrest mine in Hillcrest, Alberta, 189 miners killed – June 9, 1914] "Auction Days," Jon Brooks (2007; from the album Ours and Shepherds) Men of the Deeps "(The) Omen" It refers to the 1917 explosion in No. 12 Colliery in New Waterford on July 25, 1917. Timmons, Angus. "New Waterford's Fatal Day" Unknown "My Brother's Fate New Waterford's Fatal Day" July 25, 1917 Explosion in Dominion Mine at New Waterford Unknown "New Waterford's Fateful Day" Unknown" July 25, 1917 Explosion in Dominion Mine at New Waterford "No. 12 New Waterford" Unknown July 25, 1917 Explosion in Dominion Mine at New Waterford [Unknown title] Joe Nugent [poem] Unknown, "The Halifax Explosion" [The December 6, 1917 explosion in Halifax harbour, Canada's only catastrophe] McKinnon, Dan "Remember Me" Recorded in 1997 [A song based on survivor's accounts from the 1917 Halifax explosion] WE HAVE THE WORDS Endacott, Joan "The Wreck of the Florizel" A chronicle of the tragic wreck of the S.S. Florizel off Renews Rocks where 40 were saved out of 106 "(The) Florizel" "(The) Wreck of the Steamship Florizel" Blondahl, Omar. "Princess Sophia" Daniel Halen "The Wreck of the Danny Goodwin" Unknown "The Loss of the Danny Goodwin" "Tidal Wave at Burin" Gerald Aylward [In 1929, a tsunami caused by earthquake in Gulf of St. Lawrence hit Burin, Peninsula in Newfoundland, 28 dead] "The Annie Young" Unknown of the Annie Young" Rosy Northcott "The Wreck "The Song of The Annie Young" Walter Hayman (brother of the lost cook) [a shorter version of Northcotts?] "The August Breeze/Gale" Johnny Burke "The August Breeze/Gale" Billy Wilson "The 1938 Disaster" Anonymous "Truxton and Pollux Disaster" Unknown "Loss of the Truxton and Pollux" Simani (Bud Davidge & Sim Savory) And also: Fate Of The Caribou (Barry Davis) And also: The Caribou (Collected by MacEdward Leach) See also: The S. S. Caribou (Fay Herridge/Michael T. Wall) The S. S. Caribou (Traditional) "Train Wreck at Almonte" Barry Luft and Tim Rogers [Songs of the Iron Rail – 1983] [A troop train crashed into a standing passenger train at Almonte, Ontario – December 27, 1942] "Train Wreck at Almonte" Mac Beattie and the Ottawa Valley Melodiers [A troop train crashed into a standing passenger train at Almonte, Ontario – December 27, 1942] Kingston, Jack and Earl Heywood "Noronic Disaster" [September 17, 1949 – Cruise ship Noronic burns in Toronto harbour, 119 dead Some sources say the figure is as high as 139] "The Night Train for Southampton" words and music by Peter C. Bart "Rescue from the Springhill Coal Mine" Don Miller "The Springhill Disaster" Vera Coeburn "Springhill Mine Disaster" Eddie LeGer "Miracle at Springhill" Roy Rudolph "Springhill Mine Explosion" Jack Kingston [This is about the second Springhill mine disaster – November 1, 1956, 39 dead] Connors, Stompin' Tom "And the Bridge Came Tumblin' Down" [Second Narrows bridge collapse in Vancouver – June 17, 1958] Seeger, Peggy and Ewan MacColl "The Ballad of Springhill" THIS SONG WAS RECORDED BY MORE THAN ONE GROUP [Presumably the third Springhill, Nova Scotia mine disaster — October 23, 1958] – also recorded by Peter, Paul and Mary; U2; Dubliners; Kay Porter and Fred McKenna "Springhill Mine Disaster" "Springhill Disaster" Maurice Ruddick This is the song by a miner rescued in 1958. The title might also be "(The) Springhill Mine Disaster Song" "Springhill" Brian Vardigans "Buddy, Can You Hear Me Calling?" John Archbold "Down in Springhill's Bumpy Mine" Stuart McCawley, is probably based on the poem, The Bumps, by Danny Boutilier It was published in George Korson's Coal Dust On The Fiddle. (probably written after or in response to the 1958 disaster) "The Pill vs. The Springhill Mine Disaster" Richard Braughtigan (POEM) "Miracle at Colliery Two" Jack Kingston "(The) Springhill Mine Disaster Song" Val MacDonald (nee Ruddick) [MacDonald is the daughter of one the survivors of the third Springhill mine disaster in 1958 and the song was written by her father, Maurice Ruddick, and recorded 50 years later.] – Same as "No More Pickin' Coal" by Val MacDonald? "Spring Hill Disaster" Clifton, Bill and the Dixie Mountain Boys "Le Vent du Nord (La Mine de Springhill)" UNKNOWN "These are Green Hills Now" Brian Vardigis "The Blue Wave" John Sr. Lushman (Lehr p. 17) "The Tragedy of the Blue Wave" John Sr. Lushman *MAYBE related to Blue Wave – "One Morning I Rose From Bed" Unknown "No. 12 New Waterford" Roy Holland "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" Gordon Lightfoot [The ship sank in Lake Superior on November 10, 1975] "Le Désastre de Baie Ste-Anne" Jerry Hebert "The Escuminac Disaster" Keating "The Escuminac Disaster" Alex Milson "Disaster at 1-B" Whyte, Anne M "The 24th in 26" Unknown Another song about the incident in Glace Bay in 1979 Men of the Deeps "No. 26 Mine Disaster" This is the same song with a different title as "(The) Miner's Song (Ten Men Died)" It was written by Allister MacGillivray and is about the disaster at No. 26 in Glace Bay in 1979 "Mining Town of Fame"/ "Disaster at Glace Bay" (possibly the same song?), performed by Bill Smith and the Country Emotions "No. 26 Mine Explosion: The Root Cause" Joe Nugent ("No.26 Mine Explosion: The Root Cause" is a poem rather than a song. Source: "Joe Nugent, Inspector of Mines, Ret'd," an interview with his grandson, Don Nugent, 1996. Cape Breton Magazine, Issue 70, pp 63-74.) "Atlantic Blue" Ron Hynes "In Memoriam" Jim Payne "Ocean Ranger" Dominic D'Arcy "The Ocean Ranger" Rosanna, Bruce, Grace and Carl "Ten Thousand Miles from Shore" Murray McLaughlin "Valentine's Disaster" Performed by Reg Watkins Rowe, Ted "'Your Last Goodbye" THIS COULD BE THE SAME SONG THAT WAS RECORDED BY BRUCE MOSS [On the sinking of the oil rig Ocean Ranger – February 14, 1982] "(The) Loss of the Ocean Ranger" Cal Cavendish THIS MIGHT BE THE SAME SONG AS THE ONE RECORDED BY MARY GARBEY [The sinking of the oil rig Ocean Ranger off the coast of Newfoundland 15 Feb 1982] "(The) Ocean Ranger" Mary Garbey [On the sinking of the oil rig Ocean Ranger – February 14, 1982] "Ocean Ranger" Michael T. Wall "Your Last Goodbye" Bruce Moss [On the sinking of the oil rig Ocean Ranger – February 14, 1982] "Ocean Ranger" Wiz Bryant [February 14, 1982 -- Oil rig Ocean Ranger overturns and sinks in Atlantic storm off Newfoundland, 84 dead The bodies were brought back to St. John's] [Unknown title] Kevin Firth "From Gander to Kentucky is a long way home" Nesbit Chhangur and sons An Ottawa group on the 1985 Gander air crash "Sad Day in Gander" Waterman, Eric On the December 12, 1985 air crash involving the 101st Airborne "Hinton Train Disaster" Wiz Bryant [This is in the album Spirit of the North - LP 1986] "Aftermath" Al Provoe, performed by Men of the Deeps "The Boys of Westray" Diane Langille "Pictou's Black Coal" John Archibald "Pictou County Coal" Kevin, Bob & Bar Hamilton "The Deadly Foord Coal Seam" Steve Phalen "Every Ounce of Coal" Tom O'Keefe "In Daddy's Name" Shelle McCallum "Miners' Way" Susan and Margaret Walsh "The Miner's Song" Denis Conn, performed by John Allan Cameron on Glencoe Station, Atlantica; also by Dave Gunning "Twenty-six Angels" Anonymous [Unknown title] Simon Lilley [poem by son of a miner killed at Westray] "Their Lights Will Shine" Ron MacDonald, performed by The Men of the Deeps "Twenty-Five Miners" Father Ron McIntyre and Mike Madigan of The Sharecroppers "26 Good Workin Boys" written by Karen Boyle, performed by her husband Gary Boyle. "Coal Black" Lennie Gallant "Westray" (1995) Sarah Harmer IT IS NOT CLEAR IF SHE SANG THIS AS A SINGLE WHILE WITH WEEPING TILE OR THE GROUP DID IT [Mine disaster at the Westray mine – May 9, 1992] "Westray" (1995) Weeping Tile [Mine disaster at the Westray mine – May 9, 1992] "Westray" (2002) Ronald Gillis (lyrics), Shane MacLean (music) "Westray Remembered" (2000) Mclean, Sandy. Doucette, Adrian "(The) Storm of '98" A song about the 1998 Eastern Canadian Ice Storm "State of Emergency/Ice Storm/98" Mike Wood and Beverly "The Ice Storm of 1998" Stan Ransom (American experience) "The Power of Ice" Tamarack, from the album Tree "Peggy's Cove Disaster" Eddie Coffrey "Sleep Well, Sleep Long" Chhangur, Nesbit and songs "The Mary Ellen Carter" Men of the Deeps "The Mary Ellen Carter" Stan Rogers Roberts, Bill "Some songs about a flood" Flooding along the Red River "Red River Flood" Murray McLauchlan "Red River Rising" James Kellaghan "When the water goes down" Michael and Gloria Bauemeister A song about flooding along the Red River "The Loss of Eliza" "Loss of the Bay State" – Unknown "The Old Bay State" Unknown Disasters on the Great Lakes include "The Loss of the Schooner Antelope," "The Loss of the Maggie Hunter," and "The Foundering of the Asia." These songs can be found on Songs of the Great Lakes (Folk FE-4018). A train accident at Montreal's Windsor station in 1909 prompted Henri Miro and Raoul Collet to write "La catastrophe de la gare Windsor." |
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Subject: RE: Canadian Disaster Song Research Project From: Susan of DT Date: 18 May 11 - 04:52 PM Previous thread on topic |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,mg Date: 02 Apr 11 - 10:23 PM I met a Titanic survivor who was a friend of my father's. He does not show up on any records, but I have no reason to doubt his story. His daughter is alive. The story is very interesting..what I originally heard was he was 14 and immigrating from Ireland and was given a ticket by a brother..there were 20 brothers and sisters and each brought the next over I think. My father said he had lost his memory and they had to write to Ireland to find out who he was but his daughter said it was not like that. Someone really needs to interview the daughter..she has been interviewed before. He was not a stowaway but his ticket might have had some irregularities. His daughter told me how he survived but I can't remember the exact details. He was picked up by the Carpathian I think and brought to ?? Rhode Island I think by his family...mg |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Joe Scanlon Date: 03 Mar 11 - 09:33 PM Hi again: Just to let you know the disaster song project is doing well. We finished a study of songs about Nova mine disasters. We are nicely into a study of Titanic songs -- have found two in Yiddish, one in Norwegian, three in Finnish as well as lost (20+) in English. A number focus on the unsinkable ship as a challenge to the Lord. My next move will be songs about major Canadian disasters - and the you folka produced is helping. We got some funding last year are waiting to hear if we get more. If so Heather Sparling at Cape Breton and I will be looking at Maritime songs. We are both presenting at a music conference in St. John's in July. Just so everyone knows I have a new email address: jscanlon@connect.carleton.ca |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Heather Sparling Date: 15 Feb 11 - 06:32 AM I am working with Joe Scanlon, the person who originally made the request for Canadian disaster songs. We have developed a website to share the results of our research and thought you might be interested: disastersongs.ca Because of the huge number of Canadian disaster songs, we have limited our research to disaster songs of Atlantic Canada (which is the source of some 80% of Canadian disaster songs in our database) and we have started our research with a case study of mining disaster songs of Nova Scotia. Please feel free to leave your comments, questions, suggestions, and stories on our forum. Thank you to all who contributed song titles, lyrics, and information: you really helped us to develop our database! |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:02 PM I worked underground as a miner at the Giant Yellowknife gold mine in 1962 with a friend Gary Parnell. I still remember the old stope and the Yellowknife Cafe. I met a girl there named Sheila Halliday and a Smith girl who at the time was the daughter of a funeral home owner. My name is Paul Henry Dallaire and also wrote a mining song "Death at the Belmoral mine" (Men Of No Tomorrows) on a thread here at The Mudcat Cafe. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR RODE BY (Ian Tyson) From: GUEST,Sandy LaPrelle Date: 29 Nov 10 - 07:49 PM This story is supposed to be true, and a friend of mine says he met a descendant of the "wild old family" FOUR RODE BY (by Ian Tyson) Willie Palmer's stallion was no twenty dollar cayuse And when the wild ones stole him he hightailed it into town Ussher in those days was keeping order in the district But before he'd ridden thirty miles the McLean boys shot him down chorus: Four rode by Rode through here Three Mclean boys and that wild Alex Hare They were armed All were armed It was them I'd have known them anywhere A shepherd known as Kelly saw the wild one as they passed They shot him with a rifle and took his watch and chain When the posse found him in the lonely cabin A hunger took their pride away and no one else was slain Chorus They hung the boys in January 1883 First time in that province that they'd strung up brothers three And their sons killed 19 Germans cross the seas back in '17 One thing that's for damned sure they're a wild old family |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Beer Date: 29 Nov 10 - 07:00 PM Moose River Gold Mine. Tragedy (mining disaster) which took place in Nova Scotia. There is a National Film Board short on this as well. ad. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Mike Holland Date: 29 Nov 10 - 06:26 PM Re song "Steel Men" about 2nd Narrows bridge collapse. This is NOT Stompin Tom's song. In 60's Toronto, the Bermuda Tavern, there was a calypso band (the Debonairs?) who played this at least once a night. I seem to remember that they said it was written by the drummer (Derek or Eric?) Jimmy Dean and Roger Whittaker both recorded it. Does anyone know for sure who wrote it? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 27 May 10 - 09:51 PM I don't know the song but it was one Hell of a slide! it buried a whole lake. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Larry The Radio Guy Date: 27 May 10 - 08:32 PM I'm looking for a song I saw in a book in the early 70's about the avalanche on the Hope-Princeton Highway. Chorus went "through sunshine and snow or maybe just rain, the Hope Princeton Highway will ne'er be the same". Anybody have the lyrics or a reference to it? |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: kendall Date: 27 May 10 - 09:21 AM We Maniacs claim that the Jam at Gerry's Rock happened on the Machias river in Maine. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,Carol Date: 27 May 10 - 08:10 AM Hello, I am wondering if anyne has the lyrics to: 1. Disaster at Glace Bay by Bill Smith 2. The 24th in 26 3. Springhill Mine Disaster by Joe King If anyone has these lyrics, it would be much appreciated if you could post them on the forum. Thankyou. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: meself Date: 13 Mar 10 - 09:19 PM Here's the Reg Watkins song I mentioned awhile back, about the Ocean Ranger disaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uReLpGLboIo . |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Beer Date: 12 Mar 10 - 04:03 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Bill D Date: 04 Feb 10 - 06:13 PM I have sung a shortened version of "Miramichi Fire" several times...it's pretty dramatic & gruesome. Not for just any gathering. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Beer Date: 03 Feb 10 - 09:07 PM You are right GUEST,TJ in San Diego. You would think that there would have been some written about the time the went down Titanic . There is one that I know of that was written not to long ago by Lennie Gallant from Prince Edward Island. It is on his c/d titled "Lifeline" and the tune is called "The Band's Still Playing". Adrien |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 06 Jan 10 - 04:04 PM The Escuminac Disaster |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,joshuagreen Date: 06 Jan 10 - 02:45 PM lyrics to the above Miramichi Fire disaster song can be found in Louise Manny and James Reginald Wilson's 1968 book 'Songs of Miramichi'. Also in that book are the lyrics to several songsc composed in 1959 by Miramichi residents who were moved by the Escuminac Disaster/Desastre sur baie ste. anne (pardon my terrible french). A terrible storm racked these Miramichi fishing communities and lives and livelihoods (ie boats etc) were lost. The few songs are called 'the escuminac disaster' and 'desastre sur la baie ste.-anne' or something like that. The french version may have been written by jerry hebert. one of the english versions was written by bernadette keating (only 13 or so years old at the time!) and perhaps another english one by alec milson. |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 04 Jan 10 - 12:37 PM There are 2 songs at www.poemhunter.com. Namely: "Men of No Tomorrows" & "El Nino" You can hear "Men Of No Tomorrows" it's about the mining disaster at the Belmoral mine in Val D'Or P.Q. in 1980 You can hear it at ww.johnnycashsong.com and I'm at paulhenryd@yahoo.com |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DONALD AND THE PHANTOM PIPER From: AnneMC Date: 20 Jun 09 - 04:29 AM I love the song on a CD by a group called Gopher Baroque. The song is "Donald and the Phantom Piper":
Donald Sinclair thought his family was doomed. The year was 1856, eight years after the first settlers arrived at what is now Kincardine, Canada, and Sinclair and his family from Skye were hoping to join the swelling population of newcomers. But night was drawing in and their tiny ship was taking on water as it was tossed around on the choppy, treacherous waves of Lake Huron, one of the Great Lakes. There was little hope of the immigrant family finding their way to shore and Sinclair feared they could not survive the stormy, freezing night. In despair, he picked up his bagpipes to play one last traditional lament. Their cries for help had been lost in the howling wind - but the haunting sound of the pipes carried across the stormy waters. A Scotsman walking on the rocky shore heard Sinclair's plaintive lament wafting on the wind and ran to get his pipes to play a response; and, with the drones of his trusty pibroch acting like a sound beacon in the dark, the Sinclair family managed to sail safely to the shoreline. For the rest of his life, Sinclair was forever grateful to the energetic, skirling carrying-power of his bagpipes; and every dusk he ritually went down to the Lake Huron shore, regardless of the weather, and played his pipes as the sun set. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GREAT BRITAIN WALTZ From: Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 19 Jun 09 - 02:52 PM The life and death of Princess Diana of Wales in a song Elton John gave her Norma Jeans song which makes it second hand. (This is the good copy) THE GREAT BRITAIN WALTZ Now once upon a time in an old country far away in a place called Paris France Where August ninety seven is remembered Of a crash that left the world in a trance Lady Di on her way home from a party with her Prince in his Mercedez Benz When just past midnight it turned into a pumpkin It's a story of a fairy tale end Chorus: Now dance to the Great Britain waltz twirl around in your fine satin dress But don't two step to close to the crevice cause if you do you'll fall over the edge And when you fall you fly to a wonderland to an everlastin peace among the dead Where Princes and frogs have no power to kiss you awake from the spell Now in the real world of speed and super hi-ways where flesh collides with concrete and steel And if your dancin with the devil in the fast lane the joker's wild he'll sweep you off your feet Now you can change the name of an old song re-arrange the words for somebody new Candle in the wind is such an old flame that can't hold a candle to you Words & Music Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub. SOCAN www.johnnycashsong.com |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: meself Date: 19 Jun 09 - 02:41 PM Hey, you've finally signed on - welcome aboard! |
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Subject: RE: Canadian disaster songs: research project From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:32 PM You know, it's not, strictly speaking, a Canadian disaster, but so many bodies recovered from the Titanic sinking were interred in Halifax, Nova Scotia that one would think someone in that region surely would have commemmorated them in song. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DEATH OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL From: GUEST,Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 18 Jun 09 - 04:33 PM Orval Prophet Canadian singer extraordinaire told me about the train and how he knew the people personally, unfortunately Orval died before he could record it. DEATH OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL Hear that New York Central groanin Slowin down at Russell Station Tar paper shacks where time as stopped Fifty years ago Everything around has flourished But the old train was all finished When the chug a lug of coal fire Was replaced by diesel fuel She was a school ride to the children The milk run to the farmer Painted like a lion Jim Forsythe the conductor From Ottawa to Messena Bringin mail and loved ones to ya Folks ran out the back porch When they heard her whistle whine Chorus: You can't hear her engines roar For she's gone forever more Oh! how time has slipped away You can see them in the yard Obsolete and rusted hard Snow and rain has killed this train Verse: Bernie Campbell was station master Dave Preston was a foreman And in my past life I was Casey Jones Now I'm a railroad country picker Till my time is up I'll wonder My next time around I wanna be an engineer Words & Music Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub. SOCAN Song may be heard at: www.johnnycashsong.com (2 Versions of it) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE GREAT BRITAIN WALTZ From: GUEST,Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 21 May 09 - 11:31 AM England's Rose I believe was written originally for Norma Jean (Marilyn Monroe) THE GREAT BRITAIN WALTZ Now once upon a time in an old country Far away in a place called Paris France Where August ninety seven is remembered Of a crash that left the world in a trance Lady Di on her way home from a party With her prince in his mercedez benz When just past midnight it turned into a pumpkin It's the story of a fairy tale end Chorus: Now dance to the Great Britain waltz Twirl around in your fine satin dress But don't two step to close to the crevice Cause if you do you'll fall over the edge And when you fall you'll fly to a wonderland To an ever lastin sleep among the dead Where Princes and frogs have no power To kiss you awake from the dead Verse: Now in the real world of speed and super hi-ways Where flesh colides with concrete and steel And if your dancin with the devil in the fast lane The joker's wild he'll sweep you off your feet Now you can change the name of an old song And Re-arrange the words for somebody new Candle in the wind is such an old flame That can't hold a candle to you By Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub. SOCAN The Great Britain Waltz Can be heard on www.youtube.com And on the C.D. "America Bleeds" (Indie) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DON'T SLEEP AT THE PALESTINE HOTEL From: GUEST,Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 20 May 09 - 11:31 AM DON'T SLEEP AT THE PALESTINE HOTEL A young man eager young and strong For adventure joined the army And like his dad who'd fought the Viet Cong He would fight the Iraqis My country right or wrong he said And like a young John Wayne off he's go The cavalry and bugle calls A picture perfect Hollywood Chorus: Don't sleep at the Palestine Hotel For American tank shells there will kill you And Agent Orange Vietnam Make's me sing this song of blue Verses: Alladin and the magic lamp Alibaba and his forty thieves Children stories told throughout the world Since nine eleven take new meaning In the year two thousand two Near Kandahar Afghanistan Four young Canadian soldier boys Shed their blood in the dessert sand You'd be proud of what the preacher said mom For now there shippin me back home Eight buddy's of mine will carry me In a casket cold as stone In the old days it was just the same Chief Sitting Bull was on the menu A rich man's war paid by poor man's blood When will we realize the truth Words & Music Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub. SOCAN This song can be heard on www.youtube.com |
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Subject: I Got Dem coal minin blues / Paul Henry Dallaire From: Paul Henry Dallaire Date: 13 Mar 09 - 11:15 AM I got dem coal minin blues I was born one day in a small town shack By the river near the mill My daddy worked in the coal mine Sweatin hard to pay the bills They called us the river rats The high society did Yes they did yes they did Yes they did Chorus: Workin in a coal mine don't see much light'o day Workin in a coal mine livin day to day I got dem coal minin blues Verse: At age sixteen from a childhood dream That seems like yesterday I was lured to work in the coal mine It's in your blood they say Now there ain't no doupt dust 'll burn you out And in time will destroy me Yes it will yes it will Yes it will : Now when I die don't fret for me And please don't bury me Just pickle my body so the boys can see What minin did to me But before I go let me buy the boys Just one more round One more round one more round One more round Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub. SOCAN (Hear the song at www.youtube.com |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BALLAD OF DEAD MAN'S POINT (P H Dallaire) From: GUEST Date: 13 Feb 09 - 11:22 AM Song about the 1911 fire that devasted Timmins and South Porcupine in Northern Ontario. Many lives were lost and the real count will never be known as there were many prospectors in the bush at the time. BALLAD OF DEAD MAN'S POINT (Paul Henry Dallaire) Strolling along by the lakeshore I came to an old graveyard The words that were written on a tombstone Set my mind back many years ago The year was nineteen eleven It was one hot july summer's day Smoke filled the air then like an eclipse The sky turned as black as the night Chorus; Our little town burned to dust many lives were lost And it left behind a trail of woe and ashes Those who died that day may their ghosts lead on the way And protect us from another God we pray Verse; The fire came like thief in the night With a wind crazy blowing wild Down in the mine some when there to hide But suffocated and did not survive Others ran to the lakeside Fleeing for their lives Hoping the water could save them But in the waters were doomed there to die Talk: Sometime when your fishing for pickerel on Porcupine lake Just down the hill of dead man's point The always blowin breeze will connect you To the past of North Ontario And if your standing there gazing at the grave sites Among the Loon calls where the lonesome jackpine grows You can see the spot where the weisse family's sleepin Found in that mine shaft dark and deep below Chorus: Our little town burned to dust it was a holocaust And it left behind a trail of woe and ashes Those who died that day may their ghosts lead on the way And protect us from another god we pray Paul Henry Dallaire Paul Henry Pub.SOCAN |
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