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BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?

pdq 29 Feb 08 - 12:45 PM
Goose Gander 29 Feb 08 - 12:38 PM
CarolC 29 Feb 08 - 10:57 AM
katlaughing 29 Feb 08 - 10:42 AM
Big Al Whittle 29 Feb 08 - 10:25 AM
Peace 29 Feb 08 - 10:10 AM
Peace 29 Feb 08 - 10:10 AM
Stringsinger 29 Feb 08 - 09:57 AM
Green Man 29 Feb 08 - 09:46 AM
KB in Iowa 29 Feb 08 - 09:34 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: pdq
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 12:45 PM

Hard to know (or guess?) what somebody else means by "dark age". May we assume it means a repeat of the Dark Ages?

Can't happen because history does not repeat itself, despite that famous statement. History is cyclic but not repetitive.

We live in pretty "dark" times when normal conversation revolves aroung belly button piercing, oral sex and (C)Rap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Goose Gander
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 12:38 PM

"We are living in a dark age now. A return to the "Gilded Age" of privilege for the rich.
We have a guy in the White House who has lost it. We have shadowy figures guiding a war policy for munitions manufacturers. We have home foreclosures because lending companies have cheated homeowners through sub-primes. We have people who don't have health care that every civilized country in the world provides for their citizens. We have homeless veterans living under bridges. We have rich CEO's taking home enormous benefit packages and salaries but refuse to pay taxes that could help our infrastructure. We have voter fraud by crooked machines being manipulated by sophisticated hackers. We have media blackouts on important world events by such devious outlets such as Fox News and even CNN, ABC and NBC all owned by corporate heads that control what we can see.
We have torture being used and justified. We have eliminated "habeas corpus". We have an epidemic of gun violence recognized by the CDC as one of the most debilitating diseases.
We have a "do-nothing" Democratic congress who is willing to go along with Dictator Bush.
We have people being imprisoned for political reasons."

What Frank said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 10:57 AM

We're definitely entering a new feudal era, that's for sure. But while the system seems to be becoming feudal, the larger population seems be be becoming more enlightened. My hope is that the enlightenment will overtake the feudalism before we enter a dark age like the one that happened in the Middle Ages. Although if we start flinging nuclear bombs around, a truly dark age could happen pretty fast (if anyone survives it).


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 10:42 AM

It hasn't been the same since flush toilets, has it, wld?:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 10:25 AM

I think...'load of crap'. Which enlightened age would you prefer to live in?


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 10:10 AM

To rephrase that: We never left the Old Dark Age.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 10:10 AM

We never left to Old Dark Age.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:57 AM

We are living in a dark age now. A return to the "Gilded Age" of privilege for the rich.
We have a guy in the White House who has lost it. We have shadowy figures guiding a war policy for munitions manufacturers. We have home foreclosures because lending companies have cheated homeowners through sub-primes. We have people who don't have health care that every civilized country in the world provides for their citizens. We have homeless veterans living under bridges. We have rich CEO's taking home enormous benefit packages and salaries but refuse to pay taxes that could help our infrastructure. We have voter fraud by crooked machines being manipulated by sophisticated hackers. We have media blackouts on important world events by such devious outlets such as Fox News and even CNN, ABC and NBC all owned by corporate heads that control what we can see.
We have torture being used and justified. We have eliminated "habeas corpus". We have an epidemic of gun violence recognized by the CDC as one of the most debilitating diseases.
We have a "do-nothing" Democratic congress who is willing to go along with Dictator Bush.
We have people being imprisoned for political reasons.

I think we can safely say that we are in the dark age now.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Green Man
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:46 AM

Dark age indeed, actually we are just coming out of a dark age.
The cycle is usually only recognised in hindsight.
Tell me that WW1 and II were part of an age of enlightenment.
The good old days are now, the dark age is slipping away and hopefully we are entering a new renaissance, one in which we will achieve a kind of tolerance for each other.

Now if you want to see regression the British Government are regressing toward a totalitarian state. Now if only the general populace gave a sh*t it might not happen.

This is the year of the Rat. It probably means that most of Britains politico's are going to have a good year.

Back to the trees I say!

GM


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:34 AM

Aquarius? I thought they said aquariums. Damn, now what am going to do with all these fish?


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:11 AM

I'm still trying to get a grip on the Age of Aquarius.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: bankley
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 09:04 AM

thought we were in an Old New Age..... or maybe just old age..

what was the question?


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Subject: RE: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:38 AM

Yes and no.

And I'm not being facetious with that answer.

Read Miller's "A Canticle For Liebowitz."


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Subject: BS: Are we heading for a new dark age?
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:28 AM

I came across this today, which made me think.

http://www.darkage.fsnet.co.uk/



Here's a short excerpt.

"A dark age is a melting pot when the old, exhausted institutions of a society are broken down and destroyed. Something new and better suited to human needs can then be built up in their place.

Western society displays the classic symptoms of a civilisation in decline. It is destined to collapse--just like every other civilisation there has ever been. The world will then enter a new dark age. This will be a time of great turmoil, suffering and insecurity. It will also be a time of opportunity and creativity. When the dark age ends, other nations and races are likely to take up the baton of human progress. They will lead the world in a new era of tremendous achievement. "

What do you think?


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