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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Guest TF Date: 18 Sep 12 - 02:14 PM Petra, if you're still out there. What age is young now? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,mando-player-91 Date: 18 Sep 12 - 11:15 AM I`m 22 and I have the same experience with my friends.Or people around my age. -Shep |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Claire M Date: 18 Sep 12 - 08:49 AM Petra, I also think Maddy Prior is amazing, as does my dad, both with Steeleye & without. She has never disappointed me. Meeting her was the best night of my life. I think I've got permanent damage from where she hugged me – my god she's strong! -- but I don't care. I am nearly 30. Unfortunately I am disabled & lots of people think I'll relate better to younger people, esp. carers. I find most of them intensely boring –- we don't do the same stuff, they don't know about any music I/we would call decent, & they don't want to know about it either – their loss, not mine. I do like some of theirs, but not enough to own it. I was part of a disabled musicians' group for a while, which taught me a lot – we played via switches &/ keyboards. We played a concert, which didn't get recorded. I also like Wicca – spells just sound like songs to me. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: English Jon Date: 12 Apr 01 - 11:11 AM Well, I'm 26 and fantastically imature.... English Jon |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 12 Apr 01 - 10:49 AM refresh! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 29 Mar 01 - 01:31 PM more? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:13 AM Thank you darling Amergin, for explaining to me... Well, I came over to Baltimore about 3 years ago, and I was then 25... So when I went to a bar, I was really shocked to be asked how old I was, when in the UK we can drink in bars...legally from the age of 18. I actually got refused in a restaurant any booze because I didn't have any form of ID on me... I found it all bemusing really... And annoying, that they couldn't tell I was over 21. I first started going to the pub in the UK, when I was 16... and only got asked for id on my 18th birthday, always was the tallest... Oh well... |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 28 Mar 01 - 05:18 PM been there!! Done that!!! low cut too!
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Erica Smith Date: 28 Mar 01 - 03:05 PM oh, and P.S. Joy: I also try to wear tight blouses when I gig. It don't hurt when yer trying to make new friends. Sigh, E |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Erica Smith Date: 28 Mar 01 - 02:56 PM Joy, how funny Anywho . . . The only conclusion I've come to about attracting the young'uns, at least in NYC, is to be where the action is, outside of the trad scene. Props to the Board for moving the open mic to Triad. I wouldn't have happened across you kids in the first place if you hadn't been at Fast Folk, which was a pretty popular hangout.
I did not grow up with trad folk. I learn everything from you. And I only found you because you were "out there," in the places where people
So glad I checked the Mudcat today.
love, Erica |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Amergin Date: 28 Mar 01 - 01:10 PM Ok, Ella, getting carded is when some one wants to buy cigarettes or booze and the shopping clerk or barman asks the customer for some picture ID such as a driver's license, to make sure that customer is old enough to buy those products, that is getting carded..... |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Letty Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:25 AM I've just turned 23! But I started listening folk at about 12. Letty Fancy seeing you here, Petra! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 28 Mar 01 - 09:05 AM Oh Nathan Sweetie darling... Watch it cheeky!!! So... what's carding... and I'm probably not at all surprised Amerigin doesnt get carded. :P |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: KAS Date: 27 Mar 01 - 07:01 PM I'm working on recording an amazing Rev. Gary Davis song for a new album - the three folk goddesses I asked to sing harmony on it are something like 29, 21, and 16, I believe. Had to. They rock. Who's Ozzy Osborne? ...just kidding... Ken |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Amergin Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:22 PM Hey, Elladarling, pretty soon you'll be right up there with Katdarling...agewise that is.... |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:21 PM Go you Reverend Gary Davis Fans!!! more??? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST Date: 27 Mar 01 - 01:37 PM I am 30 , and I have long felt that my whole generation has no taste. I know no one who has any clue who Charlie Patton is, or Woody Guthrie. Most only Know Muddy waters as a name they heard before. They all know who Ozzy Osborne is though. Soooo Sad. I had to form my own band with musicians 10 or 15 years my elders to play this stuff, and if I get one more request for Lynyrd Skynrd when I am playing a great old Reverand Gary Davis song ......someones gonna get hurt. hehehe, kidding of course. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Amergin Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:36 PM I'm 26 and I never get carded.....unless I'm at a place where the policy is to card everyone.....
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 27 Mar 01 - 11:25 AM RtS - you're lucky a passport worked for you. When I was in Chicago last year they wouldn't accept my friend's passport at the local supermarket on the grounds that it wasn't a state driver's licence and they didn't think they could accept it(?!?). After whingeing on for a while we got to see the manager who explained to the puzzled check-out guy that people from outside the area could buy beer too. We got pretty worried for a while. Then at another place they didn't ask me for ID, which I found quite annoying as there was a sign saying something like "We card all people who look under 30 years old". Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 27 Mar 01 - 11:13 AM I started playing with a group of musicians in sessions, and just carried on with them, we eventually formed a group... and here I am... still learning things... I'm a mystery to the rest of my family, as no one else plays a note? Ella |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 27 Mar 01 - 11:13 AM I expect it refers to the Colonials' quaint rule that you have to be 21 to enter a bar and have proof of age (ID card). On my only visit Stateside when I was 25 I was offended to be asked for ID or "Are you a vet?" before I was allowed in and had to carry my passport with me as they didn't accept the ravages of time already evident in my features!. RtS |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 27 Mar 01 - 11:06 AM what does carded mean???? My first gig with the band I am with now was.... erm... in 1997, it was a ceili... Before that I used to be the only female soprano in a male voice choir...lol but what's carded??? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 27 Mar 01 - 10:34 AM Hmmm...I've never been in a situation where I needed to be carded!! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:16 AM keep it coming!!! And Ella -- I may be years older -- but have traveled much the same path -- Ken- I too remember when I was carded -- I was at Indiana University on a course -- I was 32 and I was carded in a bar -- I was thrilled! But Ken -- I believe you may still be carded for many years to come -- you never get old - Peter Pan!! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:09 AM I'm 27.... but on Friday 13 April this year I turn 28... GULP! I've been into folk stuff for oooo gawd as long as I can remember... but after being classically trained at school for singing etc... I threw that aside in one big wanton sigh... And started playing and singing Irish, folk and all sorts... Anything apart from classical... It was always far too staid for my liking... Actually, it should be nearly 28 but feel like I am 15 half the time.... grow up... me.... NEVER!! Ella |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 27 Mar 01 - 03:12 AM I wouldn'r call myself a folkie, I'm a jazz 'n' blues fiend with a passing interest in folk, but Herself bought me a T-shirt on my 50th birthday which read: "I'm not 50, I'm 18 with 32 years experience". Pretty much sums me up, I feel about 25 inside , the other 30-odd years don't seem to have added any wisdom (or new jokes!) RtS |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: KAS Date: 27 Mar 01 - 02:18 AM Hey Joy, You know I'm 32, but I got carded last week. Thanks Mom! Ken Schatz |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Art Thieme Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:42 PM When I got my first gig I was 20 years old. This July I'll be 60. Folk music (behind only my family) has been the mainstream of my life. All of the stages described in this thread are ones I have gone through and recall fondly. How I envy all of you who are just now merging onto the road we've been walking. What a grand adventure you are starting on ! Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Matt_R Date: 26 Mar 01 - 04:34 PM Well, I was listening to a bunch of Dylan this morning...does that count? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 26 Mar 01 - 04:08 PM 26, 25, you're still a young folkie -- and there are those much older -- still young at heart -- that counts too. Let's hear some more of your stories of folk inspiration -- and let us know where on the planet you reside!! keep the thread going.
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Date: 26 Mar 01 - 09:35 AM And I'm only 25, but am developing wrinkles! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Grab Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:47 AM At first I thought I qualified, being 26. But then I saw the age of some of the posters, so maybe I'm not that much of a young folkie after all! Graham. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 26 Mar 01 - 08:33 AM 21 is plenty young! Keep listening to it all -- and don't forget about the folk stuff! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Benjamin Date: 26 Mar 01 - 04:30 AM Is 21 young enough? Though I'm not sure how much of a folkie I am today though. My main musical interests are Classical, Blues, Soul, and World music. Music is music. I love playing it all! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 25 Mar 01 - 06:48 PM Ruthie A -- keep listening and keep expanding your musical arena! It's a great gift to be a good listener. And yes, an older folkie is saying - don't rule out those synths either -- as you have already found out - good music can come from just about anywhere.
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST Date: 25 Mar 01 - 05:18 PM blt: introduce your grandson to a "penny whistle", or flageolet. They're so easy to play, and very cheap. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ruthie A Date: 25 Mar 01 - 05:05 PM I'm young (13, apparently, but I try and deny all knowledge of the fact and pretend to be 16 instead). And I'm folkie! OK - not for as long as so other 13-yr-olds, (they were given 1/32 size fiddles at the age of 2 so I have an excuse), but I'm very musically active. I can appreciate any music that's thrown at me, because that's what I've been taught to do. I won't guarantee I'll like it, but I can tell good musicianship. I think that there's a problem with appreciation among my generation - I get laughed at for listening to a wide variety of music from folk, through folk jazz into blues. Why can't they understand that the work of a genius doesn't always need to incorporate synthesisers? I'll stop ranting now - this post is so negative! Sorry. Ruthie |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Matt_R Date: 25 Mar 01 - 05:00 PM Freshly turned 22 years old here. I'm not as much as a folkie as I once was. My mind, being what it is, cannot stay immersed in one kinda of music for too long. Now I've eased into a mania over UK indie rock from the last 10 years. But still rolling all that I've learned before into what I play now...e.g. harmonicas and fiddles in Travis, Blur, JJ72, etc. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: blt Date: 25 Mar 01 - 04:46 PM I remember feeling somewhat out of place in high school (mid-60s)because I listened to and preferred traditional folk music/dance to rock and roll. Even during those alleged folk revival years, which really didn't last that long, perceptions of what was acceptable and cool were fairly narrow. Not that folkies pay much attention to that kind of thing, in general it seems we're a group that thrives on every possible kind of margin. My grandson, who's 8, loves to listen to Keb Mo and to Eileen Ivers. He's heard me play and sing since he was a newborn (and before that, actually)--I'm hoping that this will open up his ear and heart to traditional music. I began putting a guitar and a mandolin in his arms when he was 2 or 3, and whenever I can I bring him to acoustic instrument stores to try out various instruments--percussion, guitars, banjos (he thought the banjo was broken until I explained that it didn't have a sound hole like a guitar), flutes. One reason I like open mikes is that the age range is often very broad and rarely remarked upon, it simply is. I can get an idea of what interests younger folk players. Folk music is often found where activists gather, and many involved in political work are young--late teens, early 20s. When I attended a musical evening in celebration of Joe Hill, although there were certainly quite a few geriatric rabble rousers present, there were also young politicos in the crowd (dressed as if they had walked off a "Grapes of Wrath" set), singing union songs as loudly as anybody else. Maybe it's now trendy to be nostalgic for the 1930s. Because I work with adolescents as a therapist, I often meet young people who are very creative--poets, musicians, songwriters--and they tell me that music of any kind is very important to them. When I've played my guitar and sung some of the songs I love, the response I get is usually very emotional (even if they tell me they prefer rap or heavy metal). They may tell me (privately) that they actually like folk music, although they draw the line at Country music. In movement therapy groups, I've used Hank Williams--some kids just can't tolerate it, but others think it's funny--and everybody ends up moving. I've wondered what would happen if I played an Odetta recording, or some old work chants. I also use celtic music, as a bodhran is almost impossible to sit still to. So, I think that folk music is a part of youth culture (it can't help but being so, actually)and part of what happens is the willingness of those of us who are aging to accept that, even though we may have accumulated a lot of knowledge, there's always more sprouting up from someplace new, and usually that means from someone younger. blt |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Spud Murphy Date: 25 Mar 01 - 03:56 PM FC: Didn't know there were that many ole sots in the world didja? Oh.....I'm sorry. I meant socks! Spud |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Greyeyes Date: 25 Mar 01 - 03:33 PM Firecat, I too have socks older than you. I will never get rid of them as they are of sentimental value, being pairs I wore when I still played rugby. I still wear them occasionally for skiing and suchlike, they are serviceable, if battle-scarred. Being younger than Mousethief I still consider myself a young folkie. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Ferrara Date: 25 Mar 01 - 02:21 PM Well, an update on the kid who was 15 and sneering at Bill D's autoharp when this old thread was new.... Now almost 19 and a college freshman, he occasionally signs on the 'Cat as "GUEST,ShadowMonk" and has been seen at the Royal Mile Pub belting out sea songs. Even made it to NYC once for the Johnson Girls' shanty sing. He and his friends get together and sing for hours on end, occasionally in our downstairs area, while Bill and I are trying to get some sleep.... The main stimulus for this change in outlook was hearing The Pyrates Royale, who sing at the Maryland Renaissance Faire and have a mentality and style precisely suited to appeal to a high school boy (:-)-- sorry, Craig!). But by now he has quite a nice collection of folk (mostly shanties) including the Boarding Party, New Tradition, etc, and has sung at the Washington Folk Festival in a workshop about "Passing It On" [folk music, that is] within families. Rita, mom of ShadowMonk |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST Date: 24 Mar 01 - 08:48 PM Looks over the top of glasses at firecat Seventeen - crikey! I've got things in my fridge older than you... |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST Date: 24 Mar 01 - 04:52 PM Any of the young folkies who came in on this thread several years ago still out there to report on progress? |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Firecat Date: 24 Mar 01 - 04:47 PM Spud, PLEASE buy some new socks if you've got ones that are older than me!!!! |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: GUEST Date: 24 Mar 01 - 10:16 AM Amergin; the ones ones still have the energy to run around out there; the only surfing I've got the energy for these days is on the internet. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Spud Murphy Date: 23 Mar 01 - 11:47 PM Cain't afford two. Spud |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Peter Kasin Date: 23 Mar 01 - 10:30 PM I have to agree with Joy Bennett's definition. It's how you feel and how you relate to other people of various ages. I'm in my 40's, but count among my friends and musical cohorts those in their 20's on up, and a few younger than that. About not enough folkies of your age out there, fear not! In the Celtic music here in the states, there is a whole slew of younger musicians who are making their mark. In the Boston area alone, Laura Risk, Laura Cortese, and Hanneke Cassel are some incredibly talented fiddlers, and in San Francisco, 14 year old Brittany Haas is a Bruce Molsky clone at old-timey fiddling, with her 17 year old sister Natalie a folk cellist who has recorded with Alasdair Fraser.(don't know if Molsky and Fraser are familiar names to you) That's just a small sampling of this new generation who are taking traditional music to new places, yet are mindful of tradition. You're in good company. Maybe you'll meet up with folkies your own age in any travels you might take - and don't forget about jamming with us 40-somethings! :-) -chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:14 PM and ARB-- keep giving folk a try - there's an amazing world of music out there -- I enjoy classical and even sang light opera when I was 19-21, love jazz and blues, but always seem to come home to folk. Just remember there's room for all kinds of music in your heart and mind -- keep an open mind and take it all in. |
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Subject: RE: young folkies? From: Joy Bennett Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:13 PM Sam - good luck and I'll check out your website!!
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