BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: Stanron
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 11:26 AM

Joe Offer wrote: despite England's more isolationalist stance

We've been here before but some of us who voted for Brexit see being in the Eu as being isolated from the more vigorous economies in the rest of the world.

Subject: RE: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 11:24 AM

Most SNP supporters are Nationalists..... I don't see any of the divisiveness, isolationism, or exclusivity that Stu was waffling on about.    Lack of political acumen perhaps :0(

Subject: RE: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 11:16 AM

There's a big difference between nationalism and patriotism. Nationalism seeks to promote a nation to the disadvantage of other nations. Patriotism seeks to promote the welfare of one's own nation and community - not necessarily to the disadvantage of others.
The SNP (Scottish National Party) certainly seeks to promote the well-being of Scotland - by pushing for it to remain in the European community of nations, despite England's more isolationalist stance.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: Stu
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 10:53 AM

That a large number of SNP supporters want to remain in the EU?

Subject: RE: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 10:32 AM

So.....what do you think of the fact that a large majority of SNP supporters voted "remain" in the recent referendum?

Subject: BS: Nationalism - a good or bad thing?
From: Stu
Date: 29 Oct 16 - 10:15 AM

So... I've been thinking about nationalism in all it's various guises and forms and have come to the conclusion that it is a bad thing; it's divisive, isolationist, exclusive and too easy to corrupt with patriotism and flag waving. I think that as a species we need to move away from nationalistic politics and embrace our global citizenship. That's not to say we should abandon our cultures and traditions as these help give us identity, but choose to exist in a world where the lines drawn on maps are less important that the people who choose to live in that land.


Or am I wrong?




*I don't have any particular country in mind, I'm more interested in a philosophical discussion of nationalism.