BS: From someone who rarely starts threads

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: GUEST,Stu without cookie
Date: 03 May 15 - 08:34 AM

Guest above was me, not sure what happened to my cookie.

Hmmm (again).

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 May 15 - 08:31 AM

Although once a member of the Green Party, I am not very political and like Steve will vote for who I think is least worst, holding nose.

My last post on the old election thread was actually posted after it closed in response to its closure.
We really should be allowed to discuss our election.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: GUEST
Date: 03 May 15 - 08:27 AM

"what's the point?"

Spoil your vote. Your vote still gets counted and you don't have to settle for the status quo. Like I said before, I write poems on my spoilt votes but you could paste pictures, write slogans and anything else.

By not voting, you're part of the problem and you don't have a voice. I'm not giving up my vote because the choice is between shysters, lickspittles and tosspots; they can all GTF. I'll damn well stand by the people who fought and died for universal suffrage, who suffered and defended our right to cast a ballot.

It always amazes me when the TV shows folks who can vote, possibly for the first time, are always happy to being doing so. They might have lived under a regime where their voices were silenced by force and oppression; they often queue for hours in all sorts of weather and they recognise the importance of being able to vote.

That people don't vote simply means the've either forgotten or don't care about how important voting is. We're under the kosh of the military-industrial complex and the establishment, but we're also still in with a shout.

Vote.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 May 15 - 08:21 AM

Ah yes, notwithstanding which party crosses the line first, there's always the tangential pleasure of watching utter pillocks losing their seats. Clegg and Danny Alexander would be the top two on my hit-list. Any other additions gratefully and gleefully received.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 May 15 - 08:12 AM

I see Nick Clegg [ leader fuckwits party ] is promising us the earth again, in full knowledge that he will never have to fulfill any promises. Or like last time if he sells his soul again for 5 minutes of imagined power, he'll go back on his word straight away. Mind, I think he'll not get elected due to what he did to the students and steelworkers.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:53 AM

There always has to be a least worst though, Jim, no?


(I'll check me grammar later...)

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:50 AM

I suppose I meant the people on the planet. Didn't mean to diss poor old Mother Earth.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:49 AM

"To not vote is frankly, pathetic. If you don't vote then your opinion is utterly worthless"
Always been a fan of the old Anarchist graffiti - "Don't vote, it only encourages them" (about the only thing I have in common with Anarchism).
If voting produces the same result every time - electing the same bunch of dishonest and incompetent self-servers, making the same promises that disappear like sea-fog once the election is over and then carrying out the same policies that put us where we are which end up giving us same results - those who have keep having, those who don't become worse off - what's the point?
"Hmmm."
Hmmm indeed
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:48 AM

The Greens are very nice people but they live in fairyland. I hate wind turbines and solar farms (all over Cornwall like a rash so that we can sustain the air conditioning in badly-built office blocks in London) and think that the only long-term answer to man-made global warming is nuclear power (oh yes, I know how to lose friends). The planet has proved beyond doubt that it can't and won't behave itself in terms of carbon emissions. So, as my priority is to get the bloody Tories out, I have to hold my nose and vote tactically here in North Cornwall. That would be LibDem, unfortunately, as Labour haven't got a cat in hell's chance here, so if I voted Labour I'd be helping the Tories. I'd rather die.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:47 AM

I will be voting Lib Dem. If I lived in another area I may well have chosen Labour but I don't think they will be in the running in North Norfolk and I don't want the Tories getting in.

Whatever the general feeling about the Lib Dems may be throughout the country, I think Norman Lamb remains poplar round here and, in fairness, I think he is a good MP for the area.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: BrendanB
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:46 AM

I am definitely going to vote; I have even decided who I am going to vote for. Unfortunately, I am making a choice on which party do I believe is least worst rather than which is best, because there is no best. I just do not trust politicians not to put their own/their party's interests ahead of the interests of society as a whole.
Russell Brand is a self adulating pillock but it does feel as if there is something wrong with the way democracy is working in the UK today. This is in part a result of the rise of the professional politician and the effective disenfranchisement of a large part of the electorate because the education system favours the middle and upper classes regarding achievement. Do I know how that should be fixed? No, I don't.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:37 AM

SNP.

Who are not all that inspiring, but at least not a gang of murdering thugs, thieves and opportunistic liars.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Stu
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:15 AM

To not vote is frankly, pathetic. If you don't vote then your opinion is utterly worthless, little more than hot air. It's an old cliche, but people gave their lives so we can vote and we should exercise our prerogative.

That said, if there's no-one worth voting for then the only thing to do is spoil your vote. Spoilt votes are still counted and are a legitimate way to make your voice heard. I write poems on mine.

I've not decided who to vote for yet, as they all seem a right shower. Deffo not the Tories or the idiot kippers, almost certainly not the LibDems after last time and so that leaves Labour and the Greens.

Hmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 03 May 15 - 07:07 AM

Someone in yesterday's Guardian mocked those of us who urged people to vote via social media but, as I said on Thimbles O'Hoologan (my evil doppelganger)'s Facebook page, if you don't vote you can't complain and I love to complain. Sadly, political threads here just get hijacked by name callers so I don't get involved here.
RtS

Subject: BS: From someone who rarely starts threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 May 15 - 06:40 AM

As I type this we are but a few days from a UK general election. It is, frankly, ludicrous that we are not discussing it. So let's discuss it. I'll start by saying I hate the bloody lot of them but that someone has to run the country, so I'm voting. So there. Shoot.