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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: GUEST Date: 09 Aug 04 - 08:48 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:10 PM I particularly liked the sally about getting his finger trapped in the toilet lid... right on the mark too... :-) and I talk as one who's literary output was scatologically disparaged - I too challenged him as an outright bully and dared him to hold the output of his own soul for possible ridicule in the way he had treated others. All that got was some nonsense about his time being too valuable to waste here - which of course, if it was true, he wouldn't have been here spouting his foul mouthed obscenities at us for quite some time. I think he got no better than he deserved, and I will repeat any of my similar actions in similar circumstances, without any pity or demur. When I first joined Mudcat some clever ###### tried to have a go at me by making nasty comments about my intelligence, but as I have said, it's a great pity that when some people challenge me to a battle of wits, they turn up half-armed.... If they try to start a fight, I feel no pity if they end up getting hurt when I defend my self to make them leave ME alone - of course, in the ensuing fracas, some other's toes may get stepped on or a few bits of furniture rearranged, but that's life... :-) I learned the hard way to play for keeps, at least in a intellectual situation. I still prefer to walk away from a physical beatup - but sometimes bullies insist on chasing you. There's only one thing to do then - hit them once, hard, and put them down for the count, and then leave them alone unless they want more. But I do enjoy some clever intellectual sparring with friends - spawning creative insults in a friendly way can be fun, but people like Our Fiend Mart Gibberish like to dish it out seriously, but of course get hurt too easily to take it acording to the rules they want to impose on others. "You right to freedom to swing your fists around stops at the end of my nose" allegedly John Wayne. Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Aug 04 - 08:40 PM GS - Yes, being relatively new to the Mudcat carries with it the same perils and disadvantages which appy to being relatively new in any other peer group. Remember what it was like in school? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 03 Aug 04 - 07:59 PM If you look back over my postings GUEST..you will see that I have had some fun myself with Martin Gibson but have not stooped to the level that he/she works at in doing so. It was not really Martin Gibson that gave me most of the grief over my postings or my signing off as such and I have in some ways enjoyed the game with him. I was however hoping to see him rise to the challenges set for him to produce a piece of writing which he/she had composed.... Thus proving to all that he/she is not just a "wind-up" kind of person. This has not been forthcoming. I wait with anticipation. Incidentally, does my being relatively new to Mudcat have any bearing on what has happened? Also, I have carried on submitting to threads as many people PM'd me and others said such things on the threads that I would have felt I was letting them down if I had confined myself to just the music threads. Best wishes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: GUEST,Don Firth (still cookie-less) Date: 03 Aug 04 - 04:37 PM Well, now, I can certainly understand your frustration. But speaking of frustration, I have been one of the consistent targets of this particular troll. For some reason (I think I had the audacity to post something he disagreed with once) he has chosen to fasten on me, and almost every thread I post on, he shows up with his usual comments. Ignoring him doesn't work. I've tried. In fact, ignoring him seems to inflame him all the more. So since I can't seem to get him off my tail, I try to turn the whole thing into a running joke. After all, as an entertainer, responding to a persistent heckler with zingers is a time honored sport. A lesson in Natural History: it often happens that when you go on a picnic, the enjoyment of the picnic can be spoiled by one or more yellow jackets that appear just about the time you break out the fried chicken and potato salad, buzz around the food and your face, and general make mega-pests of themselves. They can thoroughly spoil a potentially enjoyable day. And their nature is such that they're going to be there, "bugging" you, whether you ignore them or not. Well, I learned of a method of dealing with the little In a like manner, a number of promising discussions, some musical and some of a political, sociological, or philosophical nature, have been started, only to be infested by one or more cyber-vermin. The threads have ended up being deserted by those who have something worthwhile to contribute and completely taken over by the pea-brained. Now, I like to think of the accounts of my communications with Cyril and the shots from my vast quiver of zingers as brilliant sallies of wit. But, if you wish, you may think of them as pieces of rotten, smelly fish. But as long as the pests keep buzzing around them, they aren't getting into the fried chicken. Don Firth (phewy!!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: GUEST,longtime member Date: 03 Aug 04 - 02:49 PM I've never posted as a guest except for in the very beginning several years ago before I became a member. I'm not a saint, by any means, but I choose to remain a GUEST for this because I have tried to avoid having people like MG attack me. I don't respond when others attack me, other than to initially try to explain myself further. If they're just being malicious, I try my best to ignore them. Because of this, few people do attack me. GS - you're still new to the Mudcat, yet you have kept MG inflamed from the get go. You're not the only one, but my guess is you've hardly let a day go by in the few months you've been here in which you haven't responded to him in some way. If it's just harmless sparring, that's fine, but there have been a lot of perfectly nice threads (even BS ones) which have gotten nasty because of various people egging MG on or doing what he's doing. Should I put my name on this post? Maybe, but I don't want people to hunt me down on every thread I post to and attack me. That's happened before and I don't want it to happen again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Ellenpoly Date: 03 Aug 04 - 12:28 PM There are aspects of GUEST longtime member etc... in which I agree. Especially this: "Those who feed Martin are as bad as he is. If his posts are ignored, he stops posting. You can say you're having fun, but you are as responsible as he is for ruining some good threads. One post from him does not ruin a thread, but when you respond, he posts, and posts, and posts." But this: "Also, Georgiansilver was supposedly leaving BS Land in a huff because of MG and other bad people. Funny how that hasn't happened, eh? Maybe, just maybe, GS needs the same attention fix as MG." ...I think is because a lot of us asked him to reconsider leaving. AND: "The rest of you are as immature as grade school boys talking about poop." I do also think has some validity. Don and GS, among others can be very witty in their posts, but it still only accomplishes keeping the enmity flying. I just can't help but think we all have better things to write about, and better ways to use our wit rather than against each other. (And of course I don't mean the good natured jibes, of which I am as guilty as the next). ..xx..e |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: jacqui.c Date: 03 Aug 04 - 11:12 AM I've suggested a number of times that ignoring unpleasant posts is probably the best thing to do. Unfortunately, sometimes these get so bad that the temptation to reply is too great to be resisted - paticularly when it would seemt that the person concerned is gunning for a particular individual in a really nasty way. In view of the insulting nature of a lot of the posts it would take a semi saint not to make any sort of riposte and I don't think we've got many of them on Mudcat. In the present case it has been shown that the person in question is just using bullying tactics as, when challenged, he is unwilling or unable to show what he can do. We have also had the bonus of Don's brilliant pieces, which have made me laugh out loud a number of times - that was a real treat. On the question of posting as a guest - I can't think of anything that I would want to say that I wouldn't put my identity to. If you feel strongly enough that you have a valid point don't be afraid to make it under your own identity - most of the people here would respect your view, even if they might not agree with it |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:44 AM Why is it always some GUEST that comes on and tries to inflame matters? Immaturity like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. With regard to contributing to Mudcat, perhaps you should read some of the postings and make a value judgement..not just some vague opinion....Please get some true identity before playing your silly games. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: GUEST,Longtime member who is tired of the crap Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:32 AM Those who feed Martin are as bad as he is. If his posts are ignored, he stops posting. You can say you're having fun, but you are as responsible as he is for ruining some good threads. One post from him does not ruin a thread, but when you respond, he posts, and posts, and posts. Also, Georgiansilver was supposedly leaving BS Land in a huff because of MG and other bad people. Funny how that hasn't happened, eh? Maybe, just maybe, GS needs the same attention fix as MG. Both are sad and contribute little to the Mudcat. The rest of you are as immature as grade school boys talking about poop. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 03 Aug 04 - 02:12 AM I just knew he was faking a vacation... LOL! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: GUEST,Don Firth (with a crumbled cookie) Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:19 PM I'm having computer problems right now and for some reason I am unable to log in and re-up my cookie. I note that I have two personal messages that I can't get at. So if the person or persons who sent them to me reads this, sorry for the delay, but I'll get back to you as soon as I get the problem solved. In the meantime. . . . I just had another communiqué from Cyril. Don't be fooled by this business of Martin Gibson going on vacation—or that he doesn't want to waste his literary talents (talk about a member of a null-class!) writing for free for us bums. Nothing but a feeble excuse, folks. The truth is that, in addition to his other obvious handicaps, he probably won't be able to type for several days (his last message was typed by someone else). It seems, according to Cyril, that Marty had grandiose notions that he could write something brilliant (at least in his own estimation) and completely dazzle us, but he was completely stuck for ideas (not an unusual happenstance in his life). While he was rummaging around for material to use, somebody slammed the toilet seat on his fingers. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:27 AM "I don't see why I should compromise my prinicpals on that." Well, mate, since you can't spell, I know you must have your bowels crossed - you are talking s... Robin Green Post Red Post Pink Post Purple Prose Red Post |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: el ted Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:17 AM Red Post |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Aug 04 - 02:10 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Aug 04 - 11:15 AM You are the wimp that has been talked about on other thread....You attempt to bully people but when put in the position where you are facing a challenge..you make all kinds of feeble excuses and wimp out. Enjoy your holiday..you and your family. Best wishes...Oh and Be Blessed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 01 Aug 04 - 10:48 AM Sorry, but like others have done for years, you will have to talk to my publisher and pay for any of my serious writing. Mudcat is not part of my freelance agenda. I don't see why I should compromise my prinicpals on that. You can now ponder that as about as true an answer that I can give you, because it is. I'm going on vacation in about a half hour and won't be near a computer for almost a week. Try real life once in a while, Don. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Aug 04 - 07:42 AM Still waiting for you to meet the literal challenge Martin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:08 AM Those who can - do. Those who can't, try to belittle the efforts of those who can. Those who can, have no need to belittle the efforts of others: those who belittle the efforts of others can never be first raters, only at best second raters who always pretend that their offal-output is wildly funny. It is, of course, to their limited uneducated unsophisticated intellect, and they will never be able to tell the difference. When challenged to a fair fight, bullies always wimp out, often with even greater outbursts of abuse & profanity. Never try to teach a pig to sing - it is just a waste of your time and annoys the pig. "I am working on songs to perform for a real audience. Take a look at who is the pathetic one." Ah, we've had discussion of this type of performer before in other threads - the ones that drive the audence away.... Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 30 Jul 04 - 07:25 PM Sorry but should have mentioned...Martin has had another literal challenge on the "Mudcat bad writing" thread. So far he has not responded but he does know of it as I sent him a PM. The incredible story starts with a piece of "bad writing" from a GUEST called literal genius and has been added to. Please view and feel free to comment. Best wishes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 30 Jul 04 - 07:21 PM I too am sad to see that Martin has wimped out of the challenge. Any person who can compose songs should at least be able to compose a little fictional tale to amuse us. It was an unacceptable challenge for him so I suggest we just let it go now. Let him off the hook so to speak. Best wishes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:29 PM And there you have it! Actually, ake, jacqui.c has summed it up pretty well, but maybe I could add a bit. I can't speak for Martin Gibson (hell, he can hardly speak for himself without larding his discourse with the juicier vocabulary of the ancient Anglo-Saxons), but as for me, the apparent hostility is merely a vehicle for sallies of wit and humor. I go my own way, and if Marty wishes to follow me around (as he does several others) and make his usual puerile remarks (see examples above), I can at least counterbalance the disgust he leaves in his wake (like the slime trail of the common garden slug) by attempting to give those who follow these exchanges a smile or a chuckle. This is hardly my main mission in life (as Marty likes to think), it is mere recreation, and provides an occasional break from my more serious writing. Be of good cheer. If you don't enjoy the exchanges, then the logical thing to do is to just skip them. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:52 PM Jacqui C. I have no vendetta or agenda. If you find don's posts entertaining fine for you. I knew moving to those extra wide tampons would be good for you. As far as foul-mouthed, I'm sorry you so easily offend. You keep reading my posts anyway and always will. Now what thread is next? any suggestions? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: jacqui.c Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:33 PM Ake - I think you'll find that, in general, Martin starts the arguments with his unwarranted attacks on other mudcatters. He has, of late, become more and more insulting and foulmouthed and has a real talent for souring every thread that he takes part in. I've said before that it might do some good if that type of post was just ignored completely as he is obviously looking for the attention that he must lack in other areas of his life. Unfortunately it's not always that easy to ignore such rudeness and I must admit that I've really been enjoying Don's story - it makes up for the number of threads that I've stopped reading because Martin has spoiled them. Don may be carrying on the argument but he is maintaining a decency that Martin seems to be incapable of and is, at least entertaining. I think, if Martin was not carrying out what seems to be a vendetta against some mudcatters Don would not be pushing back. Where does the problem start? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:28 PM Ake, you are not excused for butting in. For you, there is no excuse. Please go find a Shatner thread to whine about. I never participate in those. The joke is so lame, already. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:02 PM I'll let somebody else answer that. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: akenaton Date: 30 Jul 04 - 04:12 PM Excuse me for butting in, but does this infantile nonesense prove anything or entertain anyone...I think not.. With so much happening politically and musically, have you both not more to do with your time? Every other thread has you two arseholes shouting at one another. What a pair of egos!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 04:05 PM To fuck with your head, Don. And to have some politically incorrect fun and make you ask such stupid questions. Thanks for the on-going opportunity you always present. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jul 04 - 03:52 PM Well, let me see. . . . I know you're afraid to participate, Marty, but as an exercise, let's see if you can write something without referring to "fucking" or "jerking off." No? Well, I understand. Some people's writing tends to be centered exclusively on wish-fulfillment based on what they feel they are missing in real life. By the way, if this is all such a "complete waste of time" and "too fucking stupid," why are you still here, reading it all and commenting on it? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 03:11 PM No you fucking old idiot. You can jerk-off in your wife's panties if your interest was so piqued. You know that I have such a way with words that I could blow you out of the water if I wanted to. I just do not feel it is time well spent. Writing fiction here seems not very rewarding to me. while you are doing that, I am working on songs to perform for a real audience. Take a look at who is the pathetic one. I have showed some of your posts to my friends and they find what you do and say as very sad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jul 04 - 03:06 PM When you suggested that you might start writing some fiction about me, you piqued my curiousity and you got us all into a state of excited anticipation of your offerings. And now you disappoint us all by wimping out. That's really too bad. But we all understand. Marty's just afraid of people waiting with their sharpened editorial blue pencils. He knows he's not up to the challenge, so (in his usual masterful prose), he calls it "too fucking stupid" and slinks away. Well, that's okay, Marty. Get back in your Dumpster and play with your flies. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 02:24 PM It's not a question of being up for the challange. To me it's just too fucking stupid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: jacqui.c Date: 30 Jul 04 - 02:01 PM Oh - and I was so looking forward to seeing what Marty could produce! We'll just have to stick with maestro Firth - he obviously has no equal in this field. When's the next installment Don? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 30 Jul 04 - 01:00 PM mmmm sorry you have an inability to meet the challenge Martin. I really though there was something in you that was made of "sterner stuff" as we Brits put it. Another Brit expression comes to mind too.."All mouth and no trousers". As you are unable to meet the challenge...perhaps a few of your usual expletives or insults would not go amiss..you sure are good at those. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Jeri Date: 30 Jul 04 - 12:55 PM Spaw, (if you manage to ever get it up again), we desperately need you around here. See if someone out there has a DaVinci that can fix computers, or get a new one! The next device ought to be one that extracts one's head from one's butt. I see something like a tube and a thing that comes out of it that looks sort of like the staple-remover second set of jaws on an alien (from Alien). You could then stick it, nay, SHOVE it in the auction. We could purchase it for ourselves, but how many people realize it when their own head is up their butts? Perhaps we could buy it for 'next time', or just leave it on the desk at work, and point to it at appropriate times. I miss you, Spaw, Be Fucked -- Jeri |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 30 Jul 04 - 12:48 PM Christian girls in west T-shirts can be OK, provided they did not go to that famous Catholic school "Our Lady of Perpetual Guilt." As for writing fiction about people here, forget it. The point is that doing so is a complete waste of time as guys like Don wallow their life away doing such drivel. As for "fool" sroupe's intellect, I believe that I have read a few poems by him in a men's room stall, underneath the articulate and imaginative artwork of some Mexican guy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 30 Jul 04 - 12:16 PM O.K all of you just stop that tittering! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:55 AM I know I have pulled some boobs in my life, but that suggestion is ridiculous! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Blackcatter Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:21 AM Gee and I was beginning to imagine you as a contestant... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 30 Jul 04 - 10:27 AM "wouldn't behave the way I have some do" Now Wait On! That was a typo! I really meant "wouldn't behave the way I have SEEN some do" I have never organised such a competition.... [:-E) Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 30 Jul 04 - 10:09 AM Come on Martin, this is your biggest chance to become known for something positive....please don't overlook it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 30 Jul 04 - 12:11 AM ... because nice girls wouldn't behave the way I have some do at some competitions - you might think that the competition was really about exposed body parts ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Amos Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:59 PM They wet them before they put them on, then they judge them as wet tee shirts, still not worn, then they take them home and dry them out before wearing them. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:22 PM Ahh! but that's the whole point... you only get to see tee T-shirts... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Blackcatter Date: 29 Jul 04 - 10:29 PM What exactly, in your mind, is a Christian Wet T-shirt Competition? I've seen Christian boobs - they can be as fun to watch as any! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 29 Jul 04 - 08:52 PM Marty, the level of intellectual involvement of your constant childish snipes and jibes and cussing is about as entertaining as a Christian Wet T-shirt Competition. I have generously given details where you could find some of the output of my intellect. You have claimed to be capable of exceeding my level, and also claimed expertise with knowledge and experience of Folk Music, but have not yet given us a URL to investigate the output of your intellect. I would be interested in 'scanning and panning' (one should respect one's opponent by only using the same level of intellect) some of your output, but I suspect that it just is all between your ears - that's about the size of it. I look forward to intensely studying your mighty thesis on Don... I can probably spare a minute or two.... Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Don Firth Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:52 PM Okay, Marty, your on! Show us what you can do! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Georgiansilver Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:27 PM Perhaps you should start writing fiction about Don.....Martin! Might show that you have some usable brain power if your composition proved as successful as Dons literal triumph. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: Once Famous Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:10 PM Don, you are a testicle in formaldihyde. what's funny about what you write about me is that it is so far off base and that you waste your time even doing it. I don't waste my time panning the crap you write, Don. I gain time by not reading it. so do others. It's amazing that you can type at all don, when your finger is in your ass at the same time. You know what, maybe I can start writing some fiction about you. But you wouldn't like it one bit. I can call the charachter Don Frith or Don Filth. That's not you is it Don? So it wouldn't matter what I said about you, would it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Feuds that aren't really feuds... From: akenaton Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:20 PM I like Gargoyles posts....His insults are all "brain teasers" Nobody splashes the acid like Garg.,..Ake |
