BS: Who you calling elderly?

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 May 21 - 04:07 PM

My mum is 89, and recently been moved by adult social services into a dementia care home..

She is not at all happy being surrounded by so many elderly annoying people...

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 May 21 - 03:56 PM

I see people daily who are probably 10 years younger than myself, who I would call elderly!!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 21 - 02:37 PM

ha ha last word ; Exciting
Its a Freudian slip and fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 21 - 01:57 PM

Think
50 years go by
in a blink
Too soon
for a lifetime memorial
too late
for better past choices.

I could give or take a tutorial.
Right now is not all I got,
I still have past predictions.
I could go float in a sea of memories
that I thought I forgot.

But the next thing
is more exiting

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 May 21 - 09:44 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, Donuel. We'll probably watch it tonight. It looks good.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 26 May 21 - 08:33 AM

A surprisingly good movie about being called elderly is called The last movie star

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 May 21 - 11:15 PM

I heard Eubie Blake a couple of times when I was living in Brooklyn. He used to perform at one of the band structures in the Prospect Park.

The Argerich video is a nice reminder of her work. I've heard her over the years, but on the radio. The videos are a revelation. I have a bunch of high-end CDs I got at a garage sale, when they thought no one would be interested so sold the entire bin of 300+ disks for $20. I'm betting I'll find some Argerich in there (but I'll have to search by composer). Whoever curated this collection of mine was, I think, teacher, probably university level. He/she had several performances of various pieces and I'm sure it was for comparison purposes. It's how one of my music classes was taught decades ago, a time-honored approach to teaching by comparison.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 21 - 08:53 PM

A reminder; Hurricane Bill has begun with the flap of a horsefly's wings in west Africa.
Its on its way, an' I don't know where and I don't know when.
Goodbye Maggie, queen of Corona, Hurricane Bill is next on the list to hit. singin Hurricane Bill is next on the list to hit.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 May 21 - 03:06 PM

I am reminded of Eubie Blake who played into his 90s...

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: meself
Date: 25 May 21 - 12:12 PM

"Historian"?? They aren't THAT old!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 25 May 21 - 09:06 AM

Easy there big fella, Martha has a delightful extended soft touch when called for. The keys will move less than a quarter inch to capture the soft but fast passages.Thanks for the information that Daniel is her friend. Are you sure you don't have a music historian degree?

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 May 21 - 07:43 AM

Martha Argerich and Daniel Barenboim are lifelong friends. They were both born in Buenos Aires, within 18 months of each other. They are both incredible free keyboard spirits. If I want to hear some Beethoven piano music, he's my first resort. I sometimes find her playing to be very driven and occasionally brittle. I look elsewhere for warmth. I bought a record of her playing Schumann's Kreisleriana and loved it. The other side was Kinderscenen, which I don't think she got to the heart of. She is a private, reserved person and is somewhat notorious for cancelling her performances at the last minute. I agree with the YouTube bloke that we'll still be talking about her in 200 years' time. Well, not me personally.

Check out Mitsuko Uchida for a truly wonderful female pianist. At 72 I think she qualifies for the thread, though maybe she wouldn't agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: JennieG
Date: 25 May 21 - 06:46 AM

The plural is, of course, Olde Phartez.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 May 21 - 05:33 AM

Jerry wrote - It's a politer way of saying "an old fart."

the politest way is Olde Pharte! JennieG taught me that, she has a way with words -

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 25 May 21 - 05:15 AM

I intend to live for ever, and its working so far.

On that basis I am not even middle-aged yet!

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Rain Dog
Date: 25 May 21 - 04:56 AM

What age do people think they are?

In your minds eye do you think of yourself as bring your current age or a few years younger?

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 May 21 - 02:50 AM

well now, I invariably refuse to state my age. People then mentally guess your age and react according to their assessment. And luckily they aim low.

Well that's my methodology to railing against being thought of as past it.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 May 21 - 12:00 AM

I'd never heard of her, until a few hours ago when the video turned up on my feed..

Astonishing...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 10:41 PM

PFR, holy.................!!! I'm not knowledgeable about classical music, but WOW!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:57 PM

Martha Argerich: 80 Year Old SUPER VIRTUOSO!!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:54 PM

Jeri: I'm changing tghe way I work out. For a long time now I've focused on three machines, or sometimes a fourth. I try to strengthen specific muscles. For a long time, it was to try to strength my legs and improve my balance. What I've found it is the other muscle groups that need regular exercise, like my biceps, arms and shoulders lose strength. I've talked it over with the personal trainer at Planet Fitness and he has encouraged me not to spend ten or 15 minutes on countless sets, each with 20-25 reps. I'm now changingto doing five or six machines when I go, with fewer reps and sets. I think that will work better.

Good for you. Most people do little or no organized
exercise.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:25 PM

The first time I got on the elliptical in 2008, I'm not sure I lasted 2 minutes. I kept doing it, and loved it. The only reason I ended my workout was that I was bored. Silly, I know. Then I made friends with the bike. I really need the treadmill, though, for balance and bone density.

I don't know that this is just me, but...
I used to not do things for a week or so (if I'm sick, lazy, or just away somewhere), and there wasn't much change when I went back to using muscles. Now, it seems like I start to go to hell if I miss a couple days. I don't maintain like I did.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:14 PM

Hang in there, Jeri. It takes time to rebuild and add muscle. I couldn't use the elliptical because my legs weren't strong enough. I've strengthened them quite a bit, and now it's not so overwhelming. I do a little more each time I use the machine and my heart rate stays low now for the first four or five minutes.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 08:52 PM

My name on a few successive computer log-ins and email addresses was "jerico" because my last name started with "co".

I bought some oat milk to use for snoothies, but I don't like the taste. I'm not vegan, so I probably could eat some sausages, but since I'm the only one here, if I buy a package, I have to eat them all. I love dairy, but I don't mind taking the supplement.

My neurologist thinks I should use a cane, but I feel like it would be giving in. The B-12 does really seem to be helping with balance. I DO have to hang on when I'm on the treadmill. I do the bike, but maybe I should get back to the elliptical.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 May 21 - 08:40 PM

Geezer quite often has positive connotations this end. You wouldn't use it for a child, but other than that it isn't at all age-specific on its own.

There's a bloke called Al Dente, but I've only ever seen him in spaghetti westerns, riding a pony called Macaroni.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 May 21 - 08:23 PM

Helen: Geezer isn't age-specific. It's a politer way of saying "an old fart." Geezers haven't had a new thought in ten years.

Dorothy: walking on uneven ground is the real test of balance and leg strength. My lawn is a never-ending series of holes and mounds. It's a good place to twist an ankle. I've regained reasonably good balance with the elliptical at Planet Fitness and walking at a solid speed on the treadmill without holding on. Most of all, I had to get rid of Vertigo.

Jeri: You could be Jeri Cho, a symbol of freedom. I started talking about a guy in my neighborhood many years ago whose name was Al. I didn't know his last name, so I started saying his name was Al Fresco, and people started using that, not realizing it wasn't his actual name. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 21 - 07:28 PM

Some of you are fully familiar with yin and yang.
In youth I consciously depended on going full Yang. With age I planned to exploit Yin. Yang is forgiven when you force things in youth. Yin in old age allows you to easily force things unseen.
Simply put, with yin you allow gravity to do your work.
Yin is vastly more nuanced than yang.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 06:11 PM

...I think the latter being what I was told to add to my water bottle when travelling through India in 1988 - which I did for a while but then decided if the water source was good enough for the locals not to bother.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 06:06 PM

Thanks Steve - I just checked and my carton of Tesco soya drink does indeed have B12, plus B2, D2 and iodine.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 May 21 - 06:00 PM

Drink those Alpro oat/soya/almond milks. They're vegan and they all have B12 added. I love the unsweetened oaty one.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 05:45 PM

Hearing it's the vitamin that vegans struggle to get enough of, I have a slice a day of a vegan cheese with added vitamin B12.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 05:38 PM

My thyroid is fine. What I have a problem with is B-12. Doc gave me supplements, and I'm feeling better.

My biggest issue with "the way things are these days" is television. Used to be, there were a few networks, and shows were on at specified times. You'd talk about the latest episode of whatever, and it was a social bonding thing. Now, you can watch shows anytime - there's no schedule - and with no set times, I forget to watch, and there IS no "latest episode". It has good points. Families no longer argue about who gets to watch their show at a given time, and binge-watching has helped us stay sane during the lock-down.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 May 21 - 04:49 PM

Just back to 1966 briefly, Jack Charlton (RIP) was on Facebook for a while saying, e.g., how much he liked fly fishing and disliked women's football; then one time he posted a photo of the World Cup winning team, with a caption saying something like who's the handsome tall chap in the middle?

I let him know what I posted above and added that, despite being born with a club foot, I managed to play A-grade juniors in Sydney; to which he replied - Alf Ramsey used to say I was born with 2 club feet!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Helen
Date: 24 May 21 - 04:34 PM

So SRS, no more porridge brain, eh? You're right, I felt elderly before being diagnosed with the thyroid issue and when the medication kicked in I was back to normal life.

I do feel old when I listen to some of what they call music these days. The type of popular music which has no real melody, and the little melody it does have is repeated and repeated for each line which is the same lyric over and over. It's only some of the current music around. Some of it I do like.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jos
Date: 24 May 21 - 02:47 PM

Bill D, you posted while I was typing, and we were thinking much the same thing.
I remember a friend at university who bought a small car so that she could move out of town, as she couldn't bear hardly ever meeting anyone who wasn't aged between 18 and 24. She valued the variety and richness to be found outside the student bubble.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jos
Date: 24 May 21 - 02:39 PM

I wouldn't want to join any group intended for the 'over 50s', or live in a compound housing only 'over 50s', or do anything else with an age restriction. There is so much to gain on all sides from people of different ages interacting, learning from, and enjoying the company of each other.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 May 21 - 02:36 PM

I wonder why (many) people decide that people over 50.. or over 60..or...whatever... get the idea that people of 'an age' only want to socialize with others in their age group.
The folk realm has for 60 years meant I could share music AND ideas with folks of all ages.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: meself
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:29 PM

One time - um ... years ago - I made my first visit to a community music group that I was considering joining. When I arrived at the hall, I saw a prominent sign advertising that it was an "Over 50" club. I immediately had a sinking feeling - and then it occurred to me that I was well past 50 myself ......

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:26 PM

I am "old" enough to be considered "elderly" by anyone's standards, I guess. At 75, I mused, "I think I might be old now." The broken ankle shortly after my 80th aged me greatly; I forsook any sort of physical therapy and it was 3 years before I could be comfortable on uneven ground. I am still exceedingly careful - each step with mindfulness. The broken ankle never hurt much but being dependent was dreadful. Not being able to leave the house, even though I had the Rolls Royce of walkers was depressing; my house mate never "got it" that a railing really would have made a difference. Those weeks of isolation were far worse than current "stay home". The whole thing aged me unnecessarily.

Now 84, I went off and purchased enough (20) bags of "black earth" to plant the tomato plants on top of the clay in the back yard. As soon as the battery powered "weed eater" is charged, I will clear a track through the 18 inch grass so I can back up to the planting site. This is the BIG planting weekend in our part of Canada. So plant I shall! Greatly regretting the plastic bags that I am using. A gorgeous day and... Being 84 and reasonably healthy, I can easily forget I am "elderly"! Until I overdo it.

My house mate just turned 74; he feels old. But he works, physically and mentally, 7 days a week most times. High stress. He just took two days off to veg out; did not even finish installing the new bathroom sink. I mentioned it would have been nice... But he went off to work on this national holiday in far better shape.

The years have little to do with it; what we do to our bodies in those years... And how we view it all. I expected I would die at 58... Went to a Good doctor who pronounced me healthy; I trusted him.

People can call me elderly; that's their perception. Officially, I am old, elderly, whatever. I just keep muddling along.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:23 PM

I was feeling incredibly old and achy - until my doctor discovered my thyroid was way low. What a difference a month makes!

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:17 PM

I ought to change my handle from "Jeri" to "Jeri Attric".

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:10 PM

I'm 73 and didn't feel especially old until I was referred, by my GP, to the "Medicines of the Elderly" clinic recently. Just a general check up, but that title made me want to take up bowls and moan about "kids today" [:-}

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 12:00 PM

Meself, it was great to get to do-over for 6 months!

When I think of the word "geezer", I thinks of someone who's miserable, hates change, and complains a lot. Unfortunately, it frequently has something to do with age, but being "old" isn't a requirement. I think we have more risk of being miserable, hating change, and prone to complaining when we get older. I might qualify, on a bad day, but I'd never think of Jerry as a geezer.

One thing that I've been noticing is who was alive when I was younger. Charlie Chaplin, Groucho Marx, Kate Smith, Bill "Bojangles" Robinson, the entire Rat Pack... sometimes I think I should make a list, but then I realize how long it would take me.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 24 May 21 - 11:44 AM

A geezer in the UK is just a bloke or chap. We would say old geezer to indicate agedness, but the two words are so often used together it's no surprise that geezer by itself has become associated with age. We also speak of diamond geezers aka terrific blokes or thoroughly decent chaps.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Charmion
Date: 24 May 21 - 11:35 AM

The first time I heard the buzz of time's winged chariot hovering near, I was only 24 years old. I was doing a recruit medical on a candidate born after 1959.

Latterly, it's mostly when I'm talking to people who don't remember or have never heard of events that were world-changing to me. Whaddaya mean, you don't remember the Save Canada rally of 1995?

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: meself
Date: 24 May 21 - 10:54 AM

Did you have that delightful feeling of having gained a year?

Btw, I gather from English TV & movies that 'geezer' on the east side of the pond is a generic term that doesn't imply anything about age - someone will quickly correct me if I have that one wrong ... !

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jeri
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:32 AM

Someone once got upset with me over my use of the term "geezer". IMO, it has more to do with attitude than age, but age can mean people get set in their ways and intolerant of anything "new", and it was sort of nice to have someone assume I was one o' them young folks. I guess it's just different things that set off my own geezerness.

Meself, my birthday's in Dec, and one year, I got to May, thinking I was a year oder than I was. The fact I was actually 42 probably wasn't significant.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 May 21 - 09:12 AM

Helen:

I've been singing in nursing home for over sixty years, and have many amazing stories about sudden breathroughs to people with Dementia after long times without speaking a word. Music is usually the trigger.

Once, I was singing in a Dementia ward where it wasn't clear to me that I was getting through to anyone. There was an old woman sitting motionless in her wheel chair who hadn't shown any response to the music until I sang Lucky Old Sun. As soon as I started singing, she joined in with a firm voice, and sang the whole song with me with a smile on her face. When we were done she slipped back into the silent void.

Music can bring people back with a clear mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Donuel
Date: 24 May 21 - 07:22 AM

I was young when the shot heard round the world happened.
"The Giants win the pennent..."

Bob Dylan is 80 today

Subject: RE: BS: Who you calling elderly?
From: Malcolm Storey
Date: 23 May 21 - 08:06 PM

Vis 1966
We were busily changing the brake blocks on the pal with the car's car.
That's what you did then.
The plan was to get the job done before the match started.
Took a bit longer than anticipated so we did a bit more at half time and then again at full time before completing the job after extra time.
After that it was down to the pub where everyone seemed especially jolly, not the least the landlord.
The next day the four of us went for a spin in the pal's car and the brakes worked beautifully.
Happy days.