England's National Musical-Instrument?

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: s&r
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:40 PM

So do you aim for Pythagorean, or Just, or even tempered scales? Or perhaps as Smokey suggests PCRT?.

Which notes do you shade and why?

Stu

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Tootler
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:59 PM

I had a brief listen to one of WAV's myspace tracks and all I can say is that I wouldn't have the nerve to post a performance of mine of that standard on any internet site.

Also:
Cutting a groove in (by?) the thumb hole of your recorder demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of recorder technique.

It might work for you now, but if you have any real desire to improve, you will soon find it is holding you up.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:37 PM

'Shading' is indeed the correct term WaV, what is happening is that you are intuitively adjusting to what proper musicologists call "pre-classical random temperament" - a skill which is to be revered rather than ridiculed. Some of us spend years trying to perfect those micro-tonal effects which you seem to have an innate talent for. What kind of a saw would you recommend for using on ebony?

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:25 PM

more false and defamatory language - I love the world being multicultural

David, please pay attention. If you're intelligent enough to play a tune on the recorder, you're intelligent enough to understand what I'm about to say.

YOU CAN LOVE THE WORLD BEING MULTICULTURAL AND STILL BE A RACIST.

WHEN I SAY YOU'RE A RACIST, I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T LOVE THE WORLD BEING MULTICULTURAL.

I KNOW PERFECTLY WELL THAT YOU LOVE THE WORLD BEING MULTICULTURAL.

I STILL THINK YOU'RE A RACIST.

The reason I think this is that you seem to believe that cultures should be kept pure (whatever that means) and that countries should be kept mono-cultural. Which is racism, whether your Collins Little Gem Encyclopedia says so or not.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:20 PM

I seem to recall "shading" is the correct term

"Shading" is a subtle technique used sparingly to enhance music. Doing it on every note is called "ineptness."

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:48 PM

Volgadon and Pip - more false and defamatory language - I love the world being multicultural and, Ruth, my enjoyment of English tradional music is part of that.

Howard - for what it's worth, I agree with some/perhaps most of Maggie Holland's song "A Place Called England"...although last I heard, she's moved to that soon to be independent republic: Scotland.

"It's easy to modify the tuning of a recorder or a whistle by not removing the fingers far enough from the hole. I suspect this may be the reason for many of the flat notes which you play, since you admit to not removing your fingers. In turn if you learn the vocals from your recorder that could go part way towards explaining your flat vocals" (Stu)...I checked for that early on, thanks - and I seem to recall "shading" is the correct term.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:30 PM

Then you again confuse the questioning of mass immigration, and trying to have a multiple number of cultures living under the one state law, with "racism" (IB).

There's a simple reason for this 'confusion', which is that the belief that people with multiple cultures ought not to mix is racism.

Since you're back on the thread, how about having a go at answering the question about assimilation that I've asked you three times? I won't post it yet again; just look for the phrase 'about assimilation' and you'll find it. Although it may not be obvious, I'm trying to help: I genuinely think you'll benefit from engaging with these questions & testing some of your preconceptions to destruction.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:28 PM

Wav, if you are part of the Manchester family, which I highly doubt, then your ancestors definitely WERE capitalist immigrants.
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:Vew1m9flbfcJ:www.msim.org.uk/media/33871455/thefranksfamily.pdf+jewish+franks+manchester&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7

In the which case, shouldn't you lead the way (leading by example is the best way forward) and repatriate yourself to the Netherlands?

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: s&r
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:22 PM

It's easy to modify the tuning of a recorder or a whistle by not removing the fingers far enough from the hole. I suspect this may be the reason for many of the flat notes which you play, since you admit to not removing your fingers.

In turn if you learn the vocals from your recorder that could go part way towards explaining your flat vocals


Stu

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:20 PM

so all the talk from our elders of better community spirit, being able to leave their front door open without fear, etc., is nonsense?

Take a look at this!!
www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/martin.carthy/songs/johnblunt.html

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Howard Jones
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 02:12 PM

"prefering E trads to be perfmormed traditionally is not bigoted."

and your idead of what "performed traditionally" means is bizarre.

WAV, I strongly urge you to listen to Maggie Holland's song "A Place Called England", which champions the old-fashioned values and spirit of England you seem to yearn for, "sore abused but not yet dead ... hanging in there like a thread" but contains these lines:

"Come all you at home with freedom, whatever the country of your birth
There's room for you, both root and branch, as long as you love the English earth"

That's the real England, WAV, and has been for centuries, absorbing Normans, Jews, Huguenots, Chinese, West Indians, Irish, Asians and even wandering Australians. That's not to say that assimilation has always been easy, but immigration is an essential element of what makes England. To deny immigration, even with all its problems, is to deny England itself.

Listen to that song, WAV, and you might understand your adopted country better.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:05 PM

"prefering E trads to be perfmormed traditionally is not bigoted."

No, but your reasons for the preference are.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 01:04 PM

Wav, you are racist. One needs look no further than your idea that only Greeks should play the bouzouki.

Are you going to give me an answer? Do you consider imperialism as imposing culture or a set of ideas on someone?

Also, what do you think about the Nigunei Meron info?

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:58 PM

Volgadon - "Wav, nobody would have any objections if you disliked that sort of accompaniment on aesthetic grounds, but POLITICAL is plainly ridiculous and bigotted."...prefering E trads to be perfmormed traditionally is not bigoted.
"Try putting up a film (with sound) on You Tube" (IB)...I got the cheapest Agos camera, which doesn't have sound recording capability - thinking it would do for a few pics and a silent video while, if they wish, folks listen to my mysapce tracks. I may buy a more expensive sound-recording camera one day, and check whether it's possible to plug a mic into it..? An alternative may be to run my camera as I record, via Audacity, on my computer, and then somehow fit them together - but, frankly, I haven't looked into this yet...I've been learning/working out the 50 or so tunes in my repertoire on both recorder and keys.
I summary: I quite like you unaccompanied singing but not the exotic accompaniment you just described, and you don't mind my attempt at "Cob a Coaling" but strongly dislike some of my other attempts - as I said above, it's "subjective".
Then you again confuse the questioning of mass immigration, and trying to have a multiple number of cultures living under the one state law, with "racism" (IB).

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 12:36 PM

http://www.ehudbanai.co.il/english.htm
This is Ehud Banai's homepage. His ex was Irish, so hence the Star of the County Down.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:32 AM

...subjective..

Subjective you say? Subjective?! Maybe we should put this one to the vote - and don't bring your Myspace friends into it, because mass sycophancy doesn't count. Try putting up a film (with sound) on You Tube, they tend to give more honest appraisals there. To paraphrase Oor Wullie*, ye canna play for nuts, and I'm not alone in thinking that. Don offered you some sound advice back there, Wavy - I suggest you listen to it, and listen to yourself, as objectively and as humanly (and humanely) as is possible up there in your Narcissistic cuckooland of self-glorification. Whilst I allow that your rendering of Cob a Coaling somehow manages to mimic the same quaintly ironic charm you occasionally manage to bring off in a singaround (that is when you're not performing your execrable self-penned self-indulgent drivel), your rendering of When I Survey the Wondrous Cross is a cultural vandalism bordering on desecration. Listening to that I was plunged into the darkness of a culture well and truly lost; and believe you me, I took on the sufferings of our society as a result.

as are opinions of your exotic accompaniment of E trads

Having long studied & obsessed over monophonic musical practise of the Mother Cultures, extant or otherwise - which is to say the Arabic & Indo-European traditional music & the secular & sacred music of the Middle Ages - I have come to favour a peculiarly monophonic and essentially improvised accompaniment to folk song which is entirely in keeping with the melismatic modal nature of both the songs themselves and their traditional performance. To this end I have adopted certain folk instruments from the same general modal mother cultures as our own, all of which have proved themselves ideally suited to the accompaniment of Traditional English Folk Song and Balladry, such as the Turkish Kemence and Hungarian Citera, the dynamics of which are more suited to my voice than the violin or reconstructed E. Cittern. It's also a matter of pragmatics - I find an instrument that works and no matter what it is, I'll use it.

Whilst I allow that in this respect what I do is perhaps a little idiosyncratic, let me assure you that idiosyncrasy is the heart and soul of traditional music, English or otherwise. Traditional Folk Song from the English (speaking) Tradition is but one part of what I do. Other aspects involve Mediaeval Music and Song as well as Free-Improvisation and Experimental music. In my own compositional work (as featured on BBC Radio 3 I might add) I bring these three aspects together, not out of exoticism or cross-cultural fusion, rather because this is my personal and cultural vocabulary which sees a lap-top as valid a tool for accompanying a traditional ballad as a concertina, or a Tibetan Singing Bowl, or dropping stones into a river, or whatever. Currently playing on my myspace page is a wholly improvised rendering of The Wife of Usher's Well in the which the voice is accompanied in real time by playing a vintage fretless guitar with a Tibetan singing bowl, thus creating some very filthy resonances indeed. I don't see this is as being in any way weird or different, it's just what I do - what I've been doing now since 1976 - thirty-two years. No one's asking you to like it, Wavy, but I know how good it is in terms of music and the craft thereof. God knows it's been long enough in the making.      

- I, for one (aesthetically as well as politically), much prefer it when you sing UA.

No one cares what you prefer, Wavy. Your aesthetics are determined by your politics, which are inhuman, right-wing, quasi-religious, vile & reactionary, founded as they are on a nauseating racism which is the consequence of a pig-headed and quite wilful ignorance. We live in a world of glorious possibility which you would have us debase to the catalogue of risible clichés that constitute your vision of Our Own Good English Culture. English Culture is anything that happens in England by way of cultural experience - anything less than that is UA (unacceptable).   

* If this reference is lost on you - which I suspect it might be - then check out this site: http://www.thatsbraw.co.uk/. If this upsets your Nationalist Puritanism, then bear in mind the artist, the late great Dudley Dexter Watkins, was an Englishman, and also responsible for such iconic comic creations as Lord Snooty, Desperate Dan, Biffo the Bear and innumerable others. Growing up in working-class Northumbria such works, though voiced in the Scots vernacular, were part of our everyday culture, along with so much else from North of the Border.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 09:58 AM

Volgadon, I've just been listening to the Star of Gush Dan. Great stuff. I'd book them.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 09:14 AM

Wav, I wonder how the Jewish music known as Nigunei Meron, would fit into your grand monocultural schemes of ethnical musical purity?
Not a clue what I'm on about, even with your 40+ countries you've walked about in?
Meron is in Northern Israel, a site of several of the tombs of the great Jewish sages, such as the Rashbi. It has been customary for over 150 to make pilgrimage to his tomb on the anniversary of his death and celebrate with singing and dancing. A hilula.
Jews from all over the world, from Poland, from the Balkans, from Tunisia and from everywhere in between would attend. The fascinating thing is that not only would Jews join in, but also local Druze, Moslem and Christian villagers!
People would play, sing and dance at the foothill. People would sing and play as they marched up to the tomb, and would sing and dance at the bonfire by the tomb. Unlike Wav's ridiculous notions that we can enjoy listening to other cultures but on no account join in and participate, people did join in and have fun. It was not at all unlikely for a Polish clarinetist improvising on a traditional nigun to be joined in by an Arab percussionist adding a dabka beat, with the North-Africans dancing and ululating. Musical forms from all over the world were combined, thus creating the Meron style of Jewish music!!!

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM

That's Lindsay Porteous with the bagsipsi, not me - I got him a couple of sipsis on a visit to Istanbul.

I don't know what the trick is to getting them to keep going. I've seen a busker at the Galata Bridge playing one for hours at a stretch. When I try, they just stop after about ten minutes and I have to wait for them to dry out.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:48 AM

I love exotic accompaniment. Listen to the oud vid, the possibilities are tremendous.

Wav, nobody would have any objections if you disliked that sort of accompaniment on aesthetic grounds, but POLITICAL is plainly ridiculous and bigotted.

You have no love for the music on any grounds other than political.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:34 AM

"A self-cut groove at the thumb-hole" (me)..."That's genius, WaV - it takes years to wear one in manually, even on a wooden one. Little wonder you have such a unique sound." (Smokey)...hacksaw blade; and it's just above (Jack C.) the hole so I can tilt, rather than lift, off my thumb.

"Wavy, you have no technique, nor yet do you have any musicality to speak of, which this absurd and grotesque video makes abundantly clear. That you posted it on You Tube in response to This underlines the full extent of your bewildering delusions." (IB)...subjective..as are opinions of your exotic accompaniment of E trads - I, for one (aesthetically as well as politically), much prefer it when you sing UA.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 06:10 AM

I'd say that picture deserved a clicky all of its own, Jack!

Jack's Sipsi

Lots of scope for drones there I'm thinking.

And let's have a link to that Sipsi video too shall we?

[Calgi Atölyesi] Sipsi

I must investigate.

My brother used to bring me home similar little idioglottal cane clarinets when he was working in Damascus, made and sold on the streets by kids, the reed being part of the body of the instrument. Similar things were made and played in England at harvest time from oat & cornstalks; they last about five minutes (as long as an average inebriated seduction) & sound lovely.

Ever made Dandelion Oboes? Amazing sound, but a fierce diuretic...

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:53 AM

I don't have any recordings of it, but here is the latest thing in Scottish bagpipes, with a little Turkish influence:

http://www.campin.me.uk/Music/Sipsi/ (last picture)

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:20 AM

That bagpipe is great!! Might have to try that someday.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:51 AM

Wrong link! That was Volgadons Oud...

Here's the bagpipe:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf7FIXmSVos

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:46 AM

Here's a curio to be sure - a Homemade Recorder Bagpipe. Makes me think, might there be a historical precedent for such a thing? Think bagpipe, think reeds; but whistle flutes??? It obviously works, so why not?

As for the Whoopee Cushion. These were invented for the sake of pride in Victorian England when those aristocratic gentlemen of the hunt found themselves, for whatever reason, no longer able to let rip. Essentially a prosthetic anus in that respect (however so remote) a chap would maintain his dignity by still being able to oblige with some choice trouser hoorahs.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:19 AM

Here is the daily dose of bland, musical soup!
The perfect antidote to the Life's Work.
Featuring Shlomo Bar and Habrera Hativit. Shlomo Bar, vocalist and percussionist, is a Moroccan immigrant, the fiddler and sitar player (now deceased, sadly) immigrated from India, after a very succesful career playing both classical and Bolywood scores, the bassist Israeli born, of Ashkenazi extraction and the guitarist is a jazz player from South America. He plays banjo too.

Shecharchoret (Dark Girl). A traditional Ladino romance. Absolutely stunning.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SuavwikBrQ

The Market Song (Shir Hashuk). Insane banjo!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_YB3N0kSk4

Children Are a Joy (Yeladim Ze Simcha). Wonderful sitar and fiddle, on a Moroccan tune. The song itself is a biting protest song.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P5b4PBYeSI

In the Village of Todera (Etzlenu Bikfar Todera). A poem about one of the traditions of the Berber Jews, set to a Hassidic tune.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy35eMC__Q

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 03:52 AM

If anyone is sick of the arrogant, ignorant atittude of top-line melody only, check out this oud piece. It's amazing! Playing melody only would lose so much of the feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzGNcYnVUIE&feature=related

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 11:06 PM

I have a Garklein, but I only use it now and again as a novelty. The ladies tend to think it's rather cute.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 10:39 PM

I think Hoffnung may have done his best work with the Hoovers in E flat and the Floor Polisher in C.

Considering all we've heard from Walksaboutwithaloadinhispants, I can see how his best instrument is his ass. Perhaps his farts have some musicality. God knows he shows no other ability..........

But Walkyturd, I hear your Mum is an expert on Skin Flute. Word is she plays yours pretty well even though you have a Sopranino.

Spaw

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 08:53 PM

Fipple Fipple!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 08:51 PM

"Why did I suddenly think of "Flight of the Bumblebee" played on a tuba?"

I'm truly glad you did, Don, it goes a long way in restoring my faith in humanity. I suspect Gerard Hoffnung may have tried it, but I'm not sure.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 08:42 PM

So I guess it's generally wise to keep the ointment handy and put the tube of Ben-Gay somewhere else. . . .

Why did I suddenly think of "Flight of the Bumblebee" played on a tuba?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 07:52 PM

Don - Most wind instruments, or at least their 'forebears' were originally played anally. The technique diminished in popularity over the centuries as diet changed, but far fewer instruments were stolen in the 'good olde days', and it was relatively safe for the average sackbut...er.. ist to leave his back door unguarded. This, obviously, is the origin of the well-known expression "bum note", and the oft-heard cry from the audience: "Why don't you try sticking it up your arse mate, it might sound better."

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 05:45 PM

I think most whoopie cushions are now made in China. Woolworths had one of the more remarkable product recalls I've seen about a year ago, for the orange ones. Apparently the orange colour was lead pigment.

Recorder stuff:

Usually a groove in the thumbhole means you need to get it fixed, that's what bushings are for. The green recorder featured in the pictures on my website has started to wear that way and I really need a new one. It seriously degrades your accuracy at the very top end of the range.

Aulos tenors are pretty loud in the lower register, slow-responding and with poor intonation at the top end, and much too heavy. I have one and don't use it any more (tried to give it away but she gave it back).

The best playing position for a heavy recorder is near-horizontal. That way your playing fingers don't have to perform double duty holding the thing steady. See any period illustration. This also looks a lot cooler than most more upright positions, *especially* one where it looks like some oil company drew up the demon Ah-Krill-Ik out of some chthonic inferno under Iraq and sold him in feedstock to an unsuspecting Japanese plastics manufacturer so he could bind a recorder newbie in sexual slavery to perform on his reincarnate phallus and gag on his boiling hydrocarbon sperm. Even being able to turn your head 360 degrees at the breathmarks doesn't compensate.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 04:06 PM

". . . the real fore-runner of the bagpipes. I'm surprised you didn't already know that."

Gad, sir, you are right!   Obvious when you think about it!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:46 PM

my technique

Wavy, you have no technique, nor yet do you have any musicality to speak of, which this absurd and grotesque video makes abundantly clear. That you posted it on You Tube in response to This underlines the full extent of your bewildering delusions.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:06 PM

They said Galileo was wrong, and he had qualifications.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:46 PM

That is, you can't be bothered to learn to play one properly.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:45 PM

A self-cut groove at the thumb-hole... That's genius, WaV - it takes years to wear one in manually, even on a wooden one. Little wonder you have such a unique sound.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:36 PM

To Jack and IB: my tenor is also an Aulos - complete with a self-cut groove at the thumb-hole, as my technique involves tilting, rather than lifting, off the holes.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:03 PM

I think you'll find, Don, that the whoopie cushion is a traditional English instrument, and the real fore-runner of the bagpipes. I'm surprised you didn't already know that.

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 01:37 PM

Congratulations, IB!! Not too many chances to nail 1000! Good timing!

And thank you, Smokey, for you homage to my knowledge and researches. I am duly humbled. It's amazing what one can learn in freshman level courses like "Remedial Music History."

On another subject:

I was in a class once with a fellow who mentioned that he had just recently had an operation for hemorrhoids. A major aggravation is trying to "stay regular" while the area heals up. Most painful. But, he said, the doctor had given him a tube of anesthetic ointment to ease his distress on these occasions.

He described how one night while in bed, he woke up and had to answer the call of nature. After finishing his business and cleaning up, he was painfully sore in the affected area. Still half-asleep, he fished around on the back of the toilet until he found what he thought was the tube of anesthetic ointment.

"I got the Ben-Gay by mistake," he said. "Lemme tell ya! I woke up a lot!!"

Don Firth

P. S. By the way, does anyone know the country of origin of the whoopie cushion?

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 11:53 AM

1000!!

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 11:52 AM

Great stuff all round...

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 11:02 AM

Bland musical soup, or is it????

All Because of Love (a Greek song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pOFr4PMV8

The Star of Gush Dan (Star of the County Down meets the Middle East!!).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGnA6oKC6is&feature=related

Everybody Knows.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9cmmmxHIPM

Tip-Tipa.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP5k9_sv64

Canaanite Blues.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1so5QfEkRag&feature=related

Birdman.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ucK_yw5pg

Today.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfi7gF2DAOI

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: mandotim
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 10:36 AM

Ruth; Granma's weakness was for men who use Swarfega as a shaving lotion, not the Swarfega itself. She's more of a Halls Linament fan these days, I'm afraid.
Incidentally, I did ask her why she was carrying the Tenor Recorder, and she just muttered 'Couldn't afford a f***ing Bassoon'.
Tim

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 10:07 AM

I am reminded reminded of the infamous scene in Trainspotting (the novel) where in her enthusiasm to lose her arse virginity one young lady confuses the Vic with the Vaseline. One can only hope...

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 09:10 AM

Are you sure it wasn't Swarfiga? I hear she has a bit of a weakness for it...

Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: mandotim
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 09:04 AM

Ruth; Granma appears to have 'gone walkabout', as they say Down Under. I saw her just before she left; she said she was going up to the North East of England 'to sort out a little problem'. I don't know what she meant, but she was carrying a tenor recorder and a large tub of vaseline...
Tim