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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: PoppaGator Date: 12 Oct 04 - 05:31 PM I am *not* Bee-dubya-ell's Secret Santa, but I am wondering about him, too. He and I exchanged a couple of brief PMs just before Ivan hit, and I was a little short with him, and uncharacteristially dismissive of something he suggested. (Well, I'd like to *think* my ungraciousness was uncharacteristic, anyway.) Now I feel terrible about the whole thing and wonder when I'll have a chance to make things right! Here's hoping that he's too busy to fool with us right now, but that his life and property have not been too terribly disrupted. If you see this, Bruce, drop me another PM (at your convenience, of course) and we'll pick up where we left off... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: GUEST,Bee Dubya Ell's SS Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:47 AM Have any of you Florida Catters heard anything of Bee Dubya Ell in the last month? I've been drawn as his Secret Santa, and have been looking at his posts to find out more about him. But I notice that his last post here was nearly a month ago, which is not like him: Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! Are you OK out there, good buddy? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 28 Sep 04 - 11:30 PM So far, 2 reported deaths from carbon monoxide poisoning due to people running generators in their home or garage. Nearly everyone will have their power on before 3 weeks. That's jsut when they figure they can be totally done. That being said, I just saw the reports. 200,000+ without power in Metro Orlando. Anyone want to vacation in Orlando this winter? We could use the $$. Our citrus industry is a wash this year and the ranchers say they have lost over 50,000 head of cattle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Sep 04 - 09:32 PM It's only just now beginning to feel like camping weather down here in Texas. On NPR this morning the power company folks thought it might be as long as 3 weeks before they had power restored to all of their customers. Whether at home or in the campground, it's going to feel a lot like camping. Everyone, remember to exhaust those campstoves--remember to use them outdoors only. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 27 Sep 04 - 10:11 PM Ahhh, There's the problem. In Florida, we camp between November and April. Cooler, less mosquitoes, not 'canes, nice bonfire weather. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: GUEST,tossing cookies Date: 27 Sep 04 - 07:36 PM I have delcared hurricane season OVER! THERE WILL BE NO MORE HURRICANES, EVER EVER EVER!!!! I WILL NOT PERMIT IT!!!!! The crowing blow is that I picked up some kind of dysentery in Pensacola and have been violently ill for a week. Cipro city for me...harpy (I may never go camping again, just for spite)Humbug!!~!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 27 Sep 04 - 01:33 PM Well if you listen to Bush, Bin Laden can make anything happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Amos Date: 27 Sep 04 - 11:06 AM I don't think the butterfly effect can be harnessed directly in that manner. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Paul G. Date: 27 Sep 04 - 10:57 AM The Butterfly Effect. I suspected as much. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: jack halyard Date: 27 Sep 04 - 07:39 AM My heart goes out to you all. Just watching that chain of awful weather and what you all end up with is profoundly moving. Just to lift your spirits a bit, I've found out what's causing it. Its terrorist's. Osama Bin Laden has cornered a mass of butterflies in the Amazon and he's got them all flapping. I hope those big men are as quick getting the help to you all as they are in talking and politicking about it. Best wishe. Jack Halyard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Paul G. Date: 26 Sep 04 - 06:39 PM We've had tropical storm force winds (40 mph) for the last six hours and expect about six more hours of it. A gust I can only estimate at around 60 mph dropped half of one of my maple trees onto the trunk of my car about an hour ago -- damage appears to be minor. Over in Clay County (south west of Jacksonville) a child was killed by a falling tree within the last hour and another injured. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Bill D Date: 26 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM good to see you, blackcatter...and to hear the power is on so quickly. I see lots of images from Stuart and West Palm Beach area of folks who were not so lucky. I'll be thinking of you on Tuesday, too....when the rains hit here... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 26 Sep 04 - 05:57 PM I've survived #3. Eye of the storm passed about 40 miles south of me, I think. Lost power around 2 AM and just got it back, but it might still be intermittant. a wind gust of 48mph was registered on my wind meter within the last hour. Top speed registered on the meter was 95mph. Sustained winds were around 75mph. I'm surprised I got power back this quickly, but it looks like it was just a transformer that blew. My sister is doing fine in Stuart. She's been at the epicenter of landfall for both Frances and Jeanne. This is only the second time since 1851 that 4 hurricanes hit one state in a season. (Texas, 1898). Still pretty brutal outside. Orange Co. Sheriff has arrested an estimated 140 individuals for breaking the mandatory curfew. They're not messing around this time. No bail for those arrested until the courts start working again. Looks like all the deaths associated in Florida have been stupid people doing stupid things. Guy in Miami picked up a livee wire. Someone in Central Florida drowned when he drove his truck down a flooded street, etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Sep 04 - 09:24 AM Any of y'all want to move up here? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Sep 04 - 09:18 AM This is going to be some shakedown for new building standards in Florida. As an aside to all of the immediate costs to everything and everyone living in the state, what practices and behaviors lead to "success" in surviving all of this heavy weather will be be a valuable by-product of this storm season. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: harpgirl Date: 26 Sep 04 - 08:06 AM My elderly parents seem to have gotten through okay. They just called. Only a little water damage in their hurricane shuttered ancestral condo. We don't yet know about my brother in his brand new apt. It was just as fierce but didn't last as long, dad said. He says the remnants are coming our way! Good luck blackcatter. Vassar Clements is in Kississimmee. Wonder how he did? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 26 Sep 04 - 12:26 AM Jeanne came on shore in Jensen Beach. 5 miles north of Sewalls Point, the point that Frances hit with the center of its eye. That just ain't right. Looks like Oseola County (Kissimmee area) will be the place that all three eyes will have passed through. I've studied hurricanes as one aspect of cCentral Florida history and can tell you that nothing like this has happened since records were kept in 1851. 153 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: katlaughing Date: 25 Sep 04 - 11:28 PM Thank you all for keeping us posted. Those images in Paul's links ae horrific. May you all stay safe and check in as soon as you are able. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 25 Sep 04 - 11:08 PM My sister's going through the eye right now it appears. She went through the eye of Frances and weathered that ok - didn't even mess up the blue Chinese tiles on her roof. FYI - I'm signing off not and don't know when I'll be back on. It's likely that by the time I wake in the AM the power will be off. Hopefully it'll be off for only a few days, but we never know. Good luck to the rest of the Floridians. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 25 Sep 04 - 09:41 PM www.wftv.com is streaming their TV broadcast live for the duration of the hurricane. They're located in Orlando (as am I) but have crews up and down the east coast. Jeena is coming on shore probably 20 or so within the spot Frances chose to hit at Stuart. Yet another remarkable fact in this remarkable hurricane season. By the way - if you've heard about flooding. The St. Johns River created over a week after Frances several feet above high water mark and flooded most every place around it. As if yesterday, the level of the St. Johns had only gone down 1 inch. Jeanee is going to drop 10-15" of rain on it's headwaters. So it'll rise prbably another 3 feet over the post Frances level. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Paul G. Date: 25 Sep 04 - 08:02 PM Here's the link for the NWS radar loop out of Melbourne, if you want a good look at Jeanne. CLICK! I flew back in to Jacksonville last from Philadelphia just in time to board the place up (welcome to the Plywood State).. but it's looking more and more like we'll be spared the worst again. Our clinic in Pensacola is now an open air affair. One of our staff went to her home on Perdido Key to find three concrete steps and her mailbox post, but a thing else. Photo galleries of Ivan's visit to Pensacola can be found at the New Journal site HERE. We'll see what tomorrow brings to to Paradise... Paul |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: GUEST,blackcatter Date: 25 Sep 04 - 11:21 AM Now Jeanne may be looping around the south and west of Orlando - means we'll get the worst side yet again. Yippie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Sep 04 - 10:43 AM The Ivan loop is in Texas now, Amos. That was one travelin' hurricane! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Amos Date: 25 Sep 04 - 10:35 AM HG: Glad you have survived this well, this far!! IS the Ivan loop over now? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: artbrooks Date: 25 Sep 04 - 10:18 AM Harpgirl, a good part of that part of Santa Rosa County is still without power, so it may be that he can't. BTW, did the wheatstraw harp survive? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: harpgirl Date: 25 Sep 04 - 10:11 AM Well, blackcatter, I'm glad you found work again with FEMA. I was wondering how you would fare with your business so affected. FEMA gave my brother five days to move out of his appt because the damage was so extensive. He had the roof cave in in two places, extensive mold, windows pop out and everything soaked. He has moved to his new place as of today and I guess they are readying that one as well. Mom is feeling some better but her sugar is still all over the map. She is making meatloaf and knitting and they have the hurricane shutters back up. They are going to fill the bathtubs today. The water they had in their tubs helped them to manage during the last one. I wish Nathan and I could be down there with them. Predictions for Tallahassee are just rain and they don't expect flooding. I wish Bruce would check in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 25 Sep 04 - 01:10 AM Well I know Abby. The man, not the hurricane. By the way, he doesn't check in here all that often, but Abby's fine - weathered the first two of the triumverate of storms ok. Eye is do to come on shore around 3-5AM Sunday. Currently it is expected to go through Orlando, so I might be able to see my second eye of the year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 04 - 07:54 PM I didn't know Abby had a storm named after him! Maybe Orlando knows something we don't.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 24 Sep 04 - 07:28 PM While I wouldn't be surprised if we see a hurricane with a "S" name this year, I don't think Sale is it . . . Really, while this year has been tough, I have lived 25 years in Florida and with the exception of this year, I've only had to deal with 2 other hurricanes. Neither of those were big deals. I've been through two earthquakes in San Bernardino, CA (used to live 1 mile from the San Andreas Fault), and 2 winters of tons of snow and skiing to school (living at 10,000 ft. on the south slope of the Grand Mesa in Colorado). 5 hurricanes in 25 years ain't so bad. Hell, the worst part is that each one has ruined a perfectly good weekend. Labor Day is the day I host my annual chili cook-off with over 100 chilies and $2,500 is prizes. Had to cancelled the first one in 9 years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: harpgirl Date: 24 Sep 04 - 04:18 PM 1. Charley 2. Frances 3. Ivan 4. Sale |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: harpgirl Date: 24 Sep 04 - 04:14 PM Everyone else gets to Rant when they have s**t bothering them! I get to as well! Now back to being a grownup. I have a gig tonight. I have a full day's work tomorrow (Saturday), I have to cut up all the wood in my back yard that I haven't gotten to yet. But, I have thought about moving back home to Michigan, I admit that! At least snow and ice doesn't usually do as much damage. I am worried about but Be-Dubya-L is coming back to. We haven't heard anything yet so if he's home he doesn't have electricity. Bruce, are you out there? I agree, Blackcatter, it's getting ridiculous but everyone potentially affected should still prepare, Jeb even said that in Spanish today on the radio. For once I agree with a Bush. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Bill D Date: 24 Sep 04 - 02:33 PM ain't it about time we turned all of Flo-ra-dah into a wildlife sanctuary, NASA facility, and amusement park? No permanent residents or private homes....just visitors and researchers...oh, yeah, and the Hurricane Center can stay, too.... Make all the structures curved and storm resistant, and conduct regular drills for the temp workers on how to GET OUT when storms come. They say with warming patterns, it just may get worse for a few years... Well...I'm only half-serious..... y'all take care, ya' hear? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Rapparee Date: 24 Sep 04 - 02:21 PM Pocatello awaits the hurricane-weary. We don't get hurricanes up here. Or much snow, either. Or much rain. Just sunshine and nice temperatures. But I'm sending all the good stuff I can Florida-way. You're right -- this is getting silly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 24 Sep 04 - 02:14 PM Thanks Mick. Friends of mine and I have been thinking of moving ot Canada because of politics in the U.S. and the hurricanes haven't helped a bit. If we do, we might pass by you on our way. This thing with the hurricanes is just wearying for the most part. I hope Jeanne stays off-shore long enough to have our Mabon ritual this Saturday evening. Incidentally, we call it the Feast of Mosquitoes around here to connected it better with Florida and this year it is certainly appropo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Amos Date: 24 Sep 04 - 01:45 PM Physician, heal thyself!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Sep 04 - 01:33 PM Ivan has sloshed into the Texas Gulf coast now, and they're calling for a real soaking in the Houston area. Our forecasters up here in the Fort Worth and Dallas areas don't expect it to reach this far. But we have another wet front coming through, and something tells me this is a remnant from a recent hurricane/typhoon in the Gulf of California that hit Arizona and New Mexico earlier in the week. I'm still watering my tomatoes this morning. If I don't, it won't rain at all here. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Big Mick Date: 24 Sep 04 - 01:30 PM I have had you all in my thoughts and prayers over this last month. Several of the Florida 'Catters are among the longest serving members. When one has enjoyed the cyber company of, and sometimes fought with (inevitably making up), folks for so long they become friends in a very real sense. Should any of you want to visit Michigan to get away, you can count on me. Please be as safe as Mother Nature allows you to be. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: harpgirl Date: 24 Sep 04 - 12:54 PM Well, I and my family have had about enough!!!!! My brother moves to his new apt today since his old one was rendered unliveable by whichever damned hurricane hit down there....just in time for the next one...my mother is so stressed at 80 she is telling me she is fixing her closets so I don't have too much to clean out when she dies...my 81 year old dad is moving my brother and his family... I couldn't believe when I checked the hurricane map that Ivan was back in the gulf and now realized just this morning my family in SFlorida faces another one!! I'm damn mad and I'm not taking any more!!!!If I lose one of my parents from this next storm I will be resigning from responsible life and becoming a bum, because what is the point? Mother nature sucks.... love, harpy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 24 Sep 04 - 09:56 AM Getting prepared in Orlando again. Looks like we're only going to get side-swiped with the "softer" side of the storm. For those of you who may not know, the southern and western sides of a hurricane are typically less intense. Looks like that West Palm might only get a glancing blow since landfall is forcasted around Kennedy Space Center. Bad news for KSC though, they sustained moderate damage to the VAB (the big building in which they store the shuttles). More damage won't be good. I still got everything around from the past storms. Just have to stick the 2 liter bottles filled with water back into the freezer to make ice. And it looks like I'll be working for FEMA after Jeanne passes. They're about the only thing hiring down here right now, but the jobs are only scheduled to last through December. Really, this is getting silly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Tweed Date: 24 Sep 04 - 09:25 AM I escaped Frances via a trip to the Holy Lands of Mississippi. I came back to West Palm to power outages and ripped up trees and roofs, boil water orders.....gahhhh... I reckon I will get to sit in the middle of Jeanne this weekend. Last nite and early this morning the gas stations were jampacked with crazed motorists lining up. The supermarkets were selling out of everything and people had plywood piled in pickups and tied to the roofs of their Corollas. It seems a sure bet that we will get wacked pretty good here in Palm Beach County. I did manage to grab some pasta and soupcans at the local Publix. Need to find a good sized pot to boil water in somewhere today. The fun never ends down here in Paradise. ;~) Tweed |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: artbrooks Date: 23 Sep 04 - 10:46 PM My parents returned to Navarre today, and apparently had little or no damage. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 23 Sep 04 - 10:35 PM Well now Jeanne is forcasted hitting the East coast with Frances like winds about 50 miles north of where Frances hit and curving through Kissimmee and Orlando and up and out through the area between Daytona and Jacksonville. Woo - freakin' - hoo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: GUEST,Blackcatter Date: 23 Sep 04 - 04:33 PM Yes, Ivan did actually hit Central Florida - Rianed like the dickens in Orlando all day Monday. No wind to speak of. Just added another 3-6 inches of water to areas who continue to be flooded. As for Jeanne - looks at the moment as if it will sideswipe the east Florida coast. If is messes with Jacksonville that will make every major area in FLorida hit with hurricane force winds this year - except most of the Keys. Go figure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Sep 04 - 12:41 PM I heard that on the news this morning--I've been aware of rain and winds and flooding in the east, but thought Ivan had toddled off across the Atlantic again by now. And here he is looping back. "Ivan--the comeback kid!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Burke Date: 23 Sep 04 - 10:16 AM But IVAN is poised for a 2nd hit!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 22 Sep 04 - 06:39 PM Current storm track for Jeanne: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT11/refresh/AL1104W5+GIF/132133W5.gif Karl and Lisa are less likely to hit the eastern seaboard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: paddymac Date: 21 Sep 04 - 09:31 PM Florida has indeed sustained incredible economic losses, but little loss of life. Tropical storm Jeanne, however, killed over 500 people in the islands. I live about five miles from Harpy, and had no damages at all. A small twister pulled 50'laurel oak right out of the ground and laid it down behind my place. Took out the power lines to the building, but didn't touch the building at all. The city had it back up (the power, that is) within three hours. The folks at the university say that "statisticly," the worst of it is over for FL. We'll likely get some more rain over the next two months, but very low probability of another hit. "Possibility, however, is another thing altogether. We had a show at our local watering hole the weekend between Frances and Ivan. The state climatologist came to the show and declared it "the official state hurricane party." Between Bonny & Charley & Frances then behind us, and Ivan heading our way, folks just didn't seem receptive to a "Half Way to St Paddy's Day" bash. We had a skit by the "Joycean Players", three solos, a duet, and my band "Paddy Go Easy." It was a small crowd, but the house was very happy - they reported it was the best drinking crowd they had for a long time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: Blackcatter Date: 21 Sep 04 - 10:54 AM I believe that several of the larger islands such as Trinidad, Puerto Rico and Hispaniola have major refineries, and of course, we get a lot of oil from Venezuela as well. But hey, without all those old oil barrels, where would Calypso music be? Everything else is getting back to normal. At least it's starting to cool down, it's only in the mid to high 80s this week. Of course, then there's Lisa out in the Atlantic... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: katlaughing Date: 20 Sep 04 - 11:42 PM hg, really glad to hear that you are both home and okay...so sad and sorry about the devastation Blackcatter...I had not idea the oil for Fla. came from the Carribean. I guess I figured they trucked it or piped it in from Texas and Louisiana, though I've never really thought about before. Thanks for the interesting update. I hope it gets easier for you all quite soon. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Florida Mudcatters - how are you?! From: artbrooks Date: 20 Sep 04 - 10:32 PM My parents heard second-hand from a neighbor that their house had no major (visible) damage and that the water didn't get that far up their block. They will be heading home this weekend, with fingers crossed. Still no power and gasolene is very scarce. Long lines for supplies of potable water, ice and MREs (yuck!). |
