BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 11:19 AM

Let's just not go there, any of us.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 11:16 AM

Interesting, curious, that you have noted that this statement falls short of an apology to the innocent victims of the war. Does your curiousity extend to the innocents that have fallen victim to British Security Services complicity and the ongoing violence on the part of the Protestant para's?

Just curious meself,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 11:01 AM

Yeah, let's not forget that bastard William, you know the guy from Normandy, who invited him here.

Seriously curious, I understand what you're saying, I sympathise, but it's people hanging on to these things which is going to prevent us all moving on. You see below somebody wants an apology for something else.

Take a deep breath, swallow, and be glad for some good news, god knows there's precious little about.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:56 AM

Keep it to yourself or they'll move me to the music section

A fate worse than Death Metal ;-)

Perhaps you would prefer if they hadn't had call an end to the Armed Struggle, curious?

We can all wait for apologies, my good person.

... all the way back to 1604

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:54 AM

Curious, I quoted a whole sentence.


I'm not going through it all again. Who does? What's the friggin point.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:51 AM

I don't think you're a bastard, Shakey.

Keep it to yourself or they'll move me to the music section.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,curious
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:51 AM

We reiterate our view that the armed struggle was entirely legitimate. We are conscious that many people suffered in the conflict.

Shakey I think it helps to provide the quote in context. Justifying it's actions falls way short of the apology to the innocent victims, that I had hoped it would include.

But life's not perfect.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:45 AM

I don't think you're a bastard, Shakey.

Not even a sarky one... ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:44 AM

Ahh is 'Revisionism' raising it's ugly head here???

If you're referring to crack about the checkpoints You've probably misunderstood though looking at it I could have done it a little better.

I was inferring that the roman roads were probably built by the irish.

I trust the sense of humour hasn't been put beyond use

Shakey

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:39 AM

Ahh is 'Revisionism' raising it's ugly head here???

I suppose Iraq will have invaded itself by the time 20 years have passed...

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:37 AM

Sarky Shakey..

Sweet!

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:35 AM

checkpoints ?

What you asking me for, didn't your lot build them all :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:34 AM

I wonder how many checkpoints were on the old Roman roads

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:34 AM

24 hr reconstruction deadline

Well yes but I'm a sarky bastard.

There are some on here who would leave out the sarky bit though.

It breaks my heart

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:30 AM

Thinking more of the 24 hr reconstruction deadline....

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:25 AM

And you know what they said about Rome

It has a lot of roads?

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:21 AM

Crossing our posts, Shakey.., meant to be a seamless reply to your 10.11 post, but there you go. We move on...

I would imagine if they say the War is over, then it's over.

Now the healing process can begin.

And Now that the Colosseum has been evacuated, the city has to be rebuilt.

And you know what they said about Rome...

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:15 AM

.. to the LOYALIST WEAPONS

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:14 AM

By the way I'm still interested if the "exiles" will be allowed home. I mean who's speaking for, they're unlikely to have a their own pressure group, about the only ones who don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:11 AM

From the statement.
We are conscious that many people suffered in the conflict.

Just accept it for what it is. Move on.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:10 AM

You would just call them a 'y' then, wouldn't you?

(no arms???)

Joke?

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,curious
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:06 AM

A sensible move and about time. Would have liked to have seen an apology to their innocent victims though. I hope they now achieve their aims peacably.

When they have no arms will they disband as an 'army?'.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Shakey
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:00 AM

I read the statement about half an hour ago, I think it's great news. To be honest they had already done this is practise, I don't understand why they didn't make the statement earlier I think it would have been in their best interests. Anyway hopefully now the pressure will fall heavily on the reverend motor-mouth.

Shakey

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 09:55 AM

Some reactions to statement.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 09:43 AM

See what you make out of this, Shakey; I.R.A. Statement In Full

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 07:45 PM

Thanks for the answer.

One interesting question, well interesting for me anyhow.

You intimate that this has happened on several ocassions in the past, a sort of internal saction. Given the fact that everyone is becoming, shall we say, accomodating eg the release of the many held prisoners, the IRAs position, etc, does this mean the "exiles" will be allowed to return.

Shakey

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 07:02 PM

You have every right to ask that question. Someone will face trial for the murder. As to the Privisional IRA making an offer to deal with those involved, this was offered to the families. The offer was to ask those involved to leave Ireland or be shot for anti social activity, the family declined the offer.This has been the rule within most catholic areas for the past 35 years, so they made the offer due to the fact members were involved in the bar fight. This is looked upon with a very dim view.I have seen members put out of Ireland for a lot less. No one should be seen to use their position to advance their own postion or intimate. Hope this is of help GUEST.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:51 PM

No I didn't forget them.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:51 PM

statement due.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:48 PM

and your manners.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:45 PM

.... I forgot the question mark...

?

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:40 PM

does this look like a fuckin information thread

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:23 PM

I'm asking this here because there appears to a few blokes who take an interest in the subject.

I'm afraid it's about the McCartney murder

The offer, that was widely reported, from the IRA to deal with the problem in, shall we say, an unorthodox way, baffles me.

Was it a lie, a bletherin idiot inside the IRA, or a deeply calculated move.

Seriously, what's the opinion.

If this has been cleared up in the general press, then I apologise but I didn't see it.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: The Curator
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 05:04 PM

Statement to be read at 12.00 noon tomorrow by leadership of Irish Republican army stating war is over.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:33 PM

Jolly hurley sticks, and all of that....

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tiocfaidh
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:32 PM

..that was me... Off home again..

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:31 PM

Yo, Ciaran!

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:31 PM

Comin out of their arses, it is...

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Tiocfaidh
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:20 PM

Oh, what a shame Den...

And 'our Gjaeeaay' and 'the boul' Martin' are away off to the States, these days....

... And Michael McDowell has decided with equal magnanimity, to announce that the bhoys have now left the Army Council.

It's great for the old breed of politicians, innit?
They don't have to prove a goddamn thing when they make statements; just 'They are...', or 'They're not..' relying on their own 'integrity' to get the message through.

And we all know how full of integritas those parties are?

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Den
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 12:47 PM

Sorry Tir Eoghain no Sinn Fein members were involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 12:17 PM

Where's the outcry???

Where is the EQUALITY???

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:08 AM

Iraq, maybe?

Beats me as to what the motive could be....

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Den
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:51 AM

That's got to be the quote of the century (from Tir Eoghain's link above), "police are keeping an open mind as to the motive." Nice to see that the repackaged PSNI are looking at things objectively;-).

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:27 AM

Loyalists behind church attacks

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 25 Jul 05 - 05:46 PM

This is really, REALLY, interesting....

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 25 Jul 05 - 05:37 PM

Ar ais, arís...

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 09:33 PM

Ahh, you got home, alright...

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: Tiocfaidh
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 07:00 PM

Thank you, Ciaran.

Ahhh, Keith, what's the story?

I get imtimidated out of my home for the guts of a fortnight, and come back to see you making light of the whole situation.

And accusing us of preaching hatred, and spewing poison.

I don't believe it!

I would e-mail my MP for you
(although I would probably write my own, in fairness)
Wolfgang argues that Black is white all the time.

I absolutely love the blue hippopotamus reference, Tír Eoghain

LOL

(.. and that doesn't mean Loyal Orange Lodge...

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 04:43 PM

REFRESH!

Subject: RE: BS: Loyalists' Weapons - Off The Streets NOW
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 10:45 AM

I'm sure he has an ME one, Keith.

That's your lateral thinking letting you down again