BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 04:06 PM

Hmmm...it occurs to me, OG, that in some bizarre cosmic turn of fate we are looking at each other like two fun-house mirror reflections, neither one of which is the original image! :) You say things about me which I immediately see as your projections. I say things about you which you say are just my projections. Funny stuff, huh?

Thanks for trying to be fair; no hard feelings.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Old Guy
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 03:37 PM

I appologise for accusing you of discreditng information that originated on the johnkerry.com website.

That was Bobert and RD.

I hope you can see I am trying to be fair.

To get back to my original objection of your negative reporting, I never see you take anything into context and you constantly accuse others of the same things you are doing.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 02:57 PM

OG:

No, I am not saying anything of the sort. And let me add that I am tired of your taking each thing I say and twisting it into some demonic perversion resident only in your own mind. You twist and alter things for the worse and you vilify people for reasons which you, yourself, project. Why do you suppose that is?

If you'd be decent enough to do so, remind me what this accustation of condemning a lie from johnkerry.com is, because I cannot find it readily and I don't have a lot of time to spend on your twisted rationalizations.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Young Guy
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 02:45 PM

The person who started the thread and the person the thread is about seems to have been reversed in the initial post.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Old Guy
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 02:42 PM

Amos:

So you are saying it is OK if a president sends US troops into combat in a secret war without the knowledge if Congress, without declaring war or having permission from congress, without telling the American public about it after making the statement in his SOU address that we will tell congress and the American public everything he is doing?

If you want to see a clear example of negativity you immediately condemned something attributed to Kerry as being a lie because of the source. The original information came from johnkerry.com You can not recognize the truth when you see it. You use your internal hate filters to determine the truth instead of common sense.

At the same time you declare GWB is violating the constitution by doing much less.

Where were you at back then? Sailing around the Mediterranean doing the bidding of your cult leader hero while your comrades were committing suicide or being murdered and getting involved in assassinations of leaders of sovereign countrys?

Please go over all of the details of your past for us like you do for GWB.

And as far as me being a nabob of negativity, All I see from you is negativity.

If you want to see a clear example of negativity, you immediately condemned something attributed to Kerry as being a lie because of the source. The original information came from johnkerry.com that you frequently quote.

You can not recognize the truth when you see it. You use your internal hate filters to determine the truth instead of common sense.
You sir are a hypocrite in denial. All I do is point out facts that show what you accuse GWB of doing has all been done before to even larger degrees but you try to make it sound like something new, some new barrier that has been broken.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 12:03 AM

I see no comparison of merit, Old Guy; and I don't think I need to answer Trivial Pursuit questions from flamers and nabobs of negativity.

What is happening today is far more important than what happened in 1997, 1967 or 1937.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Old Guy
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 11:59 PM

He has yet to answer the question about the 9 year secret war and how it compares to his fanatical tirades against GWB.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 04:22 PM

That only proves that Bush too can misspeak, Amos. He didn't plan to tell the truth. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 04:12 PM

Goodness, OG -- I am flattered that you went to all this trouble just on my account.

While I supported Kerry over Bush, because unlike Bush he has demonstrated in major terms that he has a moral sense --both in fighting a war AND in seeking an end to one when he realized it was a major mistake -- you are (again) sadly mistaken about my position relative to Kerry.

You attribute the many posts in the "Popular Views" thread to my poison pen, without noticing that (a) the vast majority of those posts are references to articles written by others and (b) on the very rare occasion when Bush tries to demonstrate honesty I point it out. It happened once, I think.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:51 PM

Maybe he thinks we actually care about Kerry. Can't imagine why, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Peace
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:37 PM

"I have no meds to get back on."

I would contribute to getting you some.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:31 PM

Good God. I used to think that Old Guy had a viewpoint- not one I agreed with, you understand, but a moral stance from which he was acting. Now I only wonder who he really is.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 01:10 PM

By starting and maintaining the thread "Popular Views of the Bush Administration," Amos is doing yeoman service for those of us who are trying to keep up on latest skullduggery the Bush League is involved in, and since there is so much of it, may possibly miss something.

Keep up the good work, Amos, and thank you, many times over.

This, it appears to me, is the primary reason GUEST,Old Guy is attacking him.

Could it be that GUEST,Old Guy is the arrogant asshole around here?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Old Guy
Date: 16 Jan 06 - 12:28 PM

Lest anyone forgets the poison pen attacks of Amos who worships his hero John F Kerry, the looser, here they are again.

He has yet to answer the question about the 9 year secret war and how it compares to his fanatical tyrades against GWB.

He goes to extremes never putting anything into context like a rational, logical, inteligent, civilized person would.

His mental thought paterns are those of a Muslin extremist.

After 28000 plus posts on Mudcat he has convinced no one of anything but he continues in his obsession.

Keep at it Amos. When you pass, hopefully someone will put a laptop in your coffin so you can keep on keepin' on.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 07:45 AM

Some Lyrics endorsed by John Kerry the arrogant asshole and therefore by Amos who echos Kerrys policies:

Pocket Size Death by REALM
Trigger happy nice boy
Runs around with his toy
Reaching out to nothing
Pocket size death
He has this feeling
When he gets really
Mad he has to shoot
Pocket Size Death
His head is filled
With such a thrill
Cause he gets revenge with
Pocket size death
Chorus
Black stone harmony will restore
All that he's been looking for
Trigger happy youth wears a nigger proof vest
Trigger happy youth has pocket size death
Gotta gun, gotta gun
Gonna go have some fun
Revenge joy, revenge joy
See those little fuckers run
Gotta friend now that will
Never turn his back
Sticks up for me
If I can't kick your ass
You better run, better run
Gonna have me some fun
Blood stained sidewalk
Hey you fucker better run
Me and my little friend
We're gonna take over the world
Me and my little friend
Were gonna get a girl
Me and my little friend
We're gonna give it a whirl
Me and my little friend
Staring the apocalypse of the world


OG

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 04:10 PM

Hahaha! So he did. Joke's on me, sucked in by pinheads again. Sheeshe. Teach me, Martin, that I may learn not to have a chain, nor ever be a Yankee.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 03:35 PM

Nice going, Old guy. You had Amos going there for a while.

Yank, Yank.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 03:16 PM

You must remember, Old Guy, that the primary (and probably only) real reason for most of those Kerry supporters was a simply desperate feeling of urgency to get Mr Bush out of the White House...by any means possible. That was it. Period. Why would anyone but you be going on about Kerry now? :-) Why would anyone care?

Now do the therapeutic thing that we all do to ease our tension now and then. Go to the nearest window, open it, take a deep breath, and yell...

"I AM AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE!!!!"

...to the World in general. The last time I did this all the dogs in a radius of a mile or two starting barking and it went on for some time. I felt much better. Do it every time those intensely hostile partisan feelings come on, and you will soon forget all about John Kerry...like most of the rest of us have.

I mean, really, why would I want to vote for John Kerry...except to get rid of George Bush! I'd vote for Howard Stern if I thought it would get Bush out of the White House and back to Crawford, Texas, where he could do what he does best...barbecue.

Not that I'm suggesting Howard Stern might not turn out to be just as bad as GW in the long run, but at least it's might, rather than absolutely WILL.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 02:06 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 02:01 PM

We're not your performing monkeys, Old Guy. If you want entertainment, I suggest you pay a visit to your local Chuck E. Cheese's establishment, or your local titty bar... whichever suits your tastes.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 10:30 AM

If you have something specific and relatively intelligent to say, I would be delighted to hear it. I have no meds to get back on.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 10:13 AM

No-one in their right mind would rise to your masterful baiting, OG. Your intent is clearly to add smoke, sludge, vitriol, unreason and sarcasm to anything said. You are bitter and non-communicative.

Kerry's virtues -- which outweigh the resident's several hundredfold -- can take care of themselves without any help from you.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 10:08 AM

I want to hear a defense of Kerry now that the smoke has blown away.

Where have all the Kerry Supporters gone, long time passing.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Nerd
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 01:39 AM

Somebody must have blinded Old Guy with science...

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

My guess is that Old Guy is thinking about Christian Science rather than Scientology.

But hey... they do both have the word "science" in their name.


We're all up against the wall... of SCIENCE!

--FST

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 10:20 PM

OG:

I think you have deep misunderstandings bordering on the neurotic -- about me, and about scientology, and about why it is always so dark where you are. It might have to do with your cranial displacement vector.

If you have something specific and relatively intelligent to say, I would be delighted to hear it. Otherwise, get back on your meds.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 10:18 PM

Well, maybe he was a reform scientologist. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 10:13 PM

I find it rather contradictory that a scientologist would tell someone to take meds.

Either they are admiting scientology is bull shite or they are not able to cure themselves with their own brainpower (measured in nanowatts).

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 06:28 PM

Nice post, GUEST,AR282.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 06:25 PM

LOL, LH

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 06:20 PM

Sorry Old Guy,

But Bush has gotten us into an unwinnable war. Look at Iraq. It's not getting better. Look how long we've been trying to quell this insurgency and it is only getting stronger and more defiant.

Not only are Americans dying for no reason--something you never even talk about, dead Americans seem to have slipped your mind--but we cannot continue to pay for this war. This fiiscal we will be spending about $3 billion a week. In two years, we've spent half of what the entire Vietnam War cost us in 15--and we had far more troops there and still lost.

This country is going to suffer a severe recession with a lost war and a very destabilized Middle East courtesy of our current administration. You can rant against Kerry all you want--he's out of the picture so your bitching is mystifying to say the least--but the bottom line is that Bush has royally screwed the world with his bullshit.

And it is maddening because we had no reason to go into Iraq to begin with--nothing to gain as we are now finding out. It also irks how the media is so stupid and blind that they go along with Bush and his democracy shit when that was NEVER his reason for going there. His reason, as you'll recall, was to find weapons of mass destruction. He failed, he admits it and he still insists he did the right thing. Now you tell me who the arrogant asshole is.

And just so you know--I'm a proud veteran who did time in the Middle East.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 06:17 PM

Yes, that really hurts, doesn't it, Carol? Next, they'll be saying that William Shatner can't act!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 06:05 PM

Ooohhhh!!!

Cut to the quick!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Geeze/Young Geeze
Date: 09 Mar 05 - 05:59 PM

You know, Kerry remains an arrogant asshole to this day. The people who supported him are crazy, sick, ignorant or just plain loosers.
What or Who else can the Democratic Party come up with as their next presidential candidate? Hillary Clinton?   HAH! She is another arrogant asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:17 PM

Partisanship...the key to dividing and controlling America. Kerry AND Bush laugh at all of you...but not as hard as their controllers and handlers laugh. Whoever you vote for under the Redemocrapublicants (one party posing as 2 parties), you will get more lies, more war, and less of a secure future in Fortress Amerika.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:10 PM

Oldvet:

You have been badly fooled, I am sorry to tell you.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Cluin
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:24 PM

Bran muffin time!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,oldvet
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:22 PM

Kerry is the worst kind of self serving opportunist who, thanks to a recently brilliant electorate, is relegated to junior Senator under Teddy (ever ready to party hardy) Kennedy. Kerry not only didn't deserve to be President, he barely deserves to windsurf on Nantucket after leaving Vietnam only 4 and a half months into a 1 YEAR TOUR on trumped up Purple Heart citations. Crewmen on his Swift Boat died before his tour would have been legitemately finished and yet we all know that he profitably used this extra 8 months Stateside to escoriate these very men and others as "War Criminals" simply to further his political aspirations. Compare this behavior to John MaCain who refused release from the Hanoi Hilton after six years as a POW because he would leave the other POWs behind. Arrogant asshole? Why Sir, you don't do the man justice. He is a self serving opportunist whose actions border on cowardice and whose lies border on treason!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Amos
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 01:05 AM

Old Guy:

You pop in here after a full year and have nothing stornger than watery crap to offer? Get back on your meds, you old shithead.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 12:21 AM

Old Guy is a whiner.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 01 Feb 05 - 12:10 AM

John Kerry is still and arrogant asshole and Amos is still a burned out, demented Scientology freak of nature.

Old Guy

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: *Laura*
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 07:23 AM

ENTREPRENEUR!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:38 PM

I just want to say that Kerry deserved what he got. If you read the first post You will see why I started this thread. It is still true now.

When the campaign started I was not opposed to Kerry being the president but as the campaign wore on and he turned more and more negative, as he continued to blame every tiny thing on Bush as if he ordered things to go wrong, I was forced away from Kerry.

Then when I saw him on TV downing Alawi, I had it up to here.

If the arrogant asshole had any feeling for the troops in Iraq other than as a tool to get himself elected, he would never have done such a traitorous thing.

He is a disgrace to the military and he deserved his resounding defeat.

OG

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:28 PM

clint.

I did agree with you. I said AGREED.

I feel that the US acted appropriately in attacking Iraq, after the UN did not act, and that the US is NOT acting correctly in allowing the UN to let the genocide continue.

You have been saying that the US should not have acted without UN permission- I had assumed you were consistant enough to believe that held for Sudan, as well. If you do have some moral backbone, I apologize for thinking otherwise.

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:07 PM

I've been away from this thread for a while, but I'd like to speak with bb if he's still reading this. I'm tired and I just want to talk about the last couple of paagraphs now.

You quote me
"And what actions anyone takes on Sudan has no effect on the wisdom of Bush's declaration of war on Iraq."


And you answer
"Agreed- so you feel that the UN has again acted correctly in not dealing with a situation agreed upon to be genocide- Yet you want the US to allow the UN to determine when the US can act in self-defense?"

How the hell do you know what I feel about the UN's actions or what I want the US to allow? I didn't say anything about either.

I meant just exactly what I said. I meant you're getting off the subject. I meant what actions anyone takes on Sudan NOW do not make Bush any smarter or dumber IN THE PAST, when he decided to attack Iraq. The rotten situation in Sudan does not make the rotten situation in Iraq any better. Or worse.

You may be right in thinking that the posters here are neglecting Sudan, but that does not affect the truth or falsity of what they say about Iraq. You're switching the subject from Bush /Iraq to Mudcat/Sudan.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: *Laura*
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 06:46 PM

At least he (Kerry) doesn't think the French have no word for entrepreneur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or that terriers are about to attack the world!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Dr. Wank
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 06:21 PM

Rightly so. Notice the all-American "kick them when they are down" approach that Old Guy is taking. This is indicative of where his loyalties lie.

I would say he would make a stellar student in my studio of self-abuse.

Dr. W

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Nerd
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 02:31 PM

Nope.

I'm in the ranks of "Old Guy is an arrogant asshole," though!

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Howdy
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 02:26 PM

Nerd:

Are you in the ranks of the Blind Fools or the Idiots?

Old Guy ain't in either.

Or maybe you are now in the ranks of the "Impeach Bush" or the "Kerry Won" factions?


HD

Subject: RE: BS: Kerry is an arrogant asshole
From: Nerd
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 01:34 PM

Ha, ha, old guy. You realize that right after the links to this very thread, the search produces:

"More voters see Bush as arrogant asshole."

You should have put quotation marks around "Kerry is an arrogant asshole" if you wanted to see how often that sentiment shows up. Your only hits will then be on your own lame invective.

And by the way, you "rubbing it in" only proves that one guy is an arrogant asshole...Old Guy!