BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 18 - 04:45 AM

Keith, when I want your opinion I will ask for it. Until then there is no point discussing anything with you.

Jackaroodave. I really do recommend that you do not get involved with this person. he is the classic example of a sociopath.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 18 - 04:39 AM

Both Daves, your premise that despite having the same serious problem that Labour women are vocally rebelling against, the feisty women from parties like SNP and Tories are just lying back and thinking of England is laughable.

The idea is ludicrous, I do not believe it, and it would be laughed out of court.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 18 - 04:33 AM

Jim,
No comments on the cover up paedos Keith?

It is too ludicrous Jim. The disgusting monster Cyril Smith alone has been revealed to have abused children or raped anyone.

proven acts (paedophelia and rape) by Government high ups and Prime ministers

You have to resort to blatant lying to make a case.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 04:35 PM

Don't fall for it Jackaroodave. You will find the hoops you need to jump through will get lifted higher and higher until they reach a point where you will Not reach, at which point you 'lose'. Please don't let me try to influence you on decisions that are yours alone but, so far, you have had your feet firmly on the ground. Keep them there and you will not trip up. Keep your arguments rooted firmly in the logic you have shown so far and try not to lose your temper. It will be difficult at times but it will be worthwhile.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 02:30 PM

Keith: "What a very silly comparison.
Uk politicians whatever their party have rather more in common."

I stand corrected and abashed. Let me amend that to accord with your cogent observation:

"Yeah, nothing from within The Official Raving Monster Loony Party, either"

As far as I know. I'm willing to take your correction here as well, Keith.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 02:17 PM

No comments on the cover up paedos Keith?
Thought not
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 01:58 PM

jackaroo.
Yeah, nothing from within the Taliban yet either

What a very silly comparison.
Uk politicians whatever their party have rather more in common.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 01:44 PM

WESTMINSTER PAEDOPHILE DOSSIER LOST !!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 01:37 PM

Another "innocent" Dolphin Square accused
CHARLES NAPIER - SERIAL SEX OFFENDER
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 01:00 PM

Not stealing at all Jackaroodave. Hopefully by putting the same points in different ways the meaning will eventually get through. I'll not hold my breath though :-(

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 12:38 PM

More names of Dolphin Square accused cover-up
PETER HAYMAN - SERIAL SEX OFFENDER
CYRIL SMITH - SERIAL SEX OFFENDER
PETER MORRISON _ SERIAL SEX OFFENDER (Covered up by MI5)

More to come
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 11:45 AM

As the their party attempts to put its own house in order, women Tory luminaries are making the habitual defenses when women speak out about sexual harassment: Puritanism run amok, nothing is fun any more, etc.

I'm shocked, shock . . . . zzzzzzzz.

Rising Star

Old Stager

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 11:31 AM

"Those stories turned out to be one deluded man's fantasies."
n obvious cover-up Keith - two of the main contenders were serial sex offenders

HARVEY PROCTOR
LEON BRITTAN
Two more
EDWARD HEATH
LORD BOOTHBY

Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 11:25 AM

Dave: "I made that point earlier to no avail, Jackaroodave. Following the logic . . . , Saudi Arabia must be a veritable paradise for women and Jews. Never any complaints about misogyny or antisemitism from them... ;-)"

I only steal from the best, Dave. <\(:-) (tip of the hat)

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 11:03 AM

Yeah, nothing from within the Taliban yet either.

I made that point earlier to no avail, Jackaroodave. Following the logic that fewer complaints means there are fewer things to complain about then Saudi Arabia must be a veritable paradise for women and Jews. Never any complaints about misogyny or antisemitism from them... ;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 10:59 AM

Keith: "Jackaroo,
'By denying that women will keep quiet about abuse and rape,'
I do not. I know they do, but there is no reason to suppose women from any one party are more or less likely too."

Oh, bushwa, Keith. This is me you're talking to, not Little Ned in the Third Reader.

"The complaints are overwhelmingly from within Labour, about Labour."

Yeah, nothing from within the Taliban yet either.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 10:25 AM

Jim,
Sorry - forgot, Heath Brittan and the Dolphin Sqaure crowd wre all secreltly paid-up members of the Labour Party, weren't they?

Those stories turned out to be one deluded man's fantasies.
No truth was found in any of it and he has been charged for the hoax.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/21/child-sex-abuse-fantasistis-charged-hoax-claims-kidnapped-held/

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 10:22 AM

Keith - of course you noticed more complaints from within labour....

Labour are all a rabble of effin bolshy militant lefty complainers, moaners, and whingers... stands to reason innit...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 10:16 AM

"I do not remember doing that Jim,
There you go again
"and they do not exist anyway."
Sorry - forgot, Heath Brittan and the Dolphin Sqaure crowd wre all secreltly paid-up members of the Labour Party, weren't they?
Braindeads of the world unite!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 10:06 AM

Jim,
Keith has now reached the stage of openly defending Top Government paedophiles and rapists

I do not remember doing that Jim, and they do not exist anyway.

Jackaroo,
By denying that women will keep quiet about abuse and rape,

I do not.
I know they do, but there is no reason to suppose women from any one party are more or less likely too.

The complaints are overwhelmingly from within Labour, about Labour.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 09:40 AM

Keith:"I answered your point at the time and again when Dave referred to it. The circumstances of female Labour and Tory politicians are very similar and I would like to know why one should be less likely to complain than the other."

Yes, Keith, they are certainly similar with respect to conditions that make sexual harassment of women likely to occur and unlikely to be reported. They differ in two aspects that most voters think is important: their politics and their membership.

I have to say that when your supporting claim is even less probable than the thesis it supports, your argument is in trouble. No offense, but I just want to grab you by the shoulders, shake you, and holler, "Wake up and look! Look about you!"

You just don't understand how momentous and novel this movement is, or how difficult it has been hitherto for women victims to seek justice. Two years ago there wasn't a Labour Too or Me Too movement ANYWHERE. The most a sapient defender of Tory Exceptionalism can say is, "There isn't a 'Tory Too' movement . . . . yet."

Let's consider three US examples of accused abusers who were nationally famous for decades before their victims risked public scrutiny:

When the Harvey Weinstein scandal hit, there were posts on this very forum that said, basically, "Hey, it's Hollywood, bimbos trading sex who didn't get what they bargained for. We all know how that works, nothing new to see here, let's move on." Then, crablouie, it all blew up in our faces.

Roy Moore, the "10 Commandments Judge," was (barely) defeated in his Alabama senatorial campaign when Leigh Corfman accused him of molesting her when she was 14 years old in 1979 (!) and was echoed by Beverly Young Nelson (16 in 1977 or 78), and Tina Johnson (28 in 1991). A majority of Republican voters still voted for Moore, some stating outright they'd rather be represented by a child molester than a Democrat. Some Republican office holders repudiated Moore, others, including our president, supported him. Had Nelson and Johnson not chimed in to show a pattern, Moore would probably be in the Senate today.

Just in the news the other day, the prosecutor of Bill Cosby, beloved comedian and accused serial rapist, has petitioned the judge in Cosby's re-trial to admit testimony from 19 women among the 60 who claim Cosby raped or molested them in incidents dating back to 1965. These women are unable to bring Cosby to the bar themselves because the statute of limitations on rape had expired by the time they were emboldened enough to speak out against this public icon. Even now, it looks as if there may be no justice for them.

In the light of these examples, I'll just reiterate what I said before, and you are welcome to do the same. "By denying that women will keep quiet about abuse and rape, you simply disqualify yourself from discussing the phenomenon."

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 08:27 AM

Moving on still, as Keith has now reached the stage of openly defending Top Government paedophiles and rapists
Sex has now entered Irish politics again from a different direction
Having wone his case against teh police department, whistle-blower and honest policeman Maurice McCabe is now describing to an enquiry how the Police Authorities instigated hundreds of text messages accusing him of sexually abusing his own children - the orders came from the top
Handy thing sex - if you know how to use it!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 07:09 AM

Here's a very practical idea..

Whenever an individual voluntarily puts his/her name forward for election as a Tory MP...

...arrest them immediately.

They've already narrowed themselves down as persons of interest in unreported or unsolved sex and/or corruption crimes,
thus saving valuable police time and expensive investigations....

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 06:50 AM

Jim,
proven acts (paedophelia and rape) by Government high ups and Prime ministers

Seriously Jim?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 05:34 AM

Now you are openly supporting paedophelia and rape with your silence on proven acts by Government high ups and Prime ministers
Puts your concern for women and children squarely where it belongs
Pity you can't throw in s fw million Muslims, Irish children and Travellers while you're at it
Have a good prey - d'you hear now!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 05:25 AM

Ha, ha, ha.
That encapsulates your contribution to debate on this forum.
Playground abuse and naughty name calling.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 05:04 AM

Only one thing remains to be said I suppose :-)

Fuck off Keith

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 04:49 AM

The sails are furled and my work is done,
Leave her Johnnie...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 04:33 AM

Leave him feller's leave him
Pretend your singing shanties
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 04:29 AM

Dave,
Only because we stopped you. You had a good try.

I did not. you are making shit up now.

Jacjaroo, I answered your point at the time and again when Dave referred to it.

The circumstances of female Labour and Tory politicians are very similar and I would like to know why one should be less likely to complain than the other.

Rag, Dave made this thread about "impropriety," but who cares about impropriety.

Your dossier lists people for indulging in gay group sex and shenanigans with secretaries, and it lists women.
I care about abuse of women and all forms of misogyny.

If it is consensual it is nobody's business but theirs and I don't care if you call it "impropriety."


All of you, forgetting "impropriety," on misogyny and the abuse of women there has been an outcry from within Labour about just that.

40+ women MPs write to their leader begging him to do something about it.
A new grassroots movement within Labour to highlight the problem and to fight against it.
Nothing comparable coming from any other party.
That is why I think Labour has a particular problem.
Because so many members say so.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 04:06 AM

Well said, Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 03:56 AM

Maybe it's time to widen this whole issue and leave our tame Establishment cap-doffer to wallow in his swill
Sexual predation is an aspect of an unequal society, the privileged and powerful preying on the weak and dependent
It first surfaced big-time with the clerical abuse scandals, covered up by the church heirarchy
Then came the Knight of the realm, Sir Jimmy Savile and CBE holder, Rolf Harris revelations, when leading entertainers with access to children and teenagers, were found to be abusing them
Then Cinema and theatre people
Now politicians
The latter has involved those at the top of the tree - even a PRIME MINISTER
All these have been covered up by hose at the top - the heirarchy of the church knew what was happening - some of them were involved.
The media moguls were aware of Savile's behaviour and did nothing to stop him
The 'casting couch' was a running joke in the film industry.
Now, it transpires, Parliamentary privilege was taken for granted as 'boys being boys'
Recently charities and sporting organisations have been brought to public notice
As far as I am concerned, all these are aspects of a rotten system running down
About ******* time (pardon the pun)
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 03:44 AM

Keith: "What have I left unanswered please?"

Urm . . . . the rebuttal of your major premise?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 18 - 02:43 AM

I have not intimated that

Only because we stopped you. You had a good try.

You have not answered the point that there is no special reason why Tory women, say, would keep silent and Labour not.

I did. I agreed with Jackaroodave's analysis.

No more hoops. You have failed to convince anyone that Labour is the party of sexual abuse just as you failed with your antisemitism ploy. About time you stopped digging.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 07:50 PM

I wasn't going to go here, but I feel that Keith has left us no alternative
THE CONSERVATIVES AT PLAY
HOW THE TORIES DEAL WITH SEX CRIMES
HOW THE TORIES DEAL WITH SEX CRIMES
CONFIRMED AGAIN
2017
2017 AGAIN
£^ sSEX PESTS - "AH< BUT HAVE THEY BREAVCHED MINISTERIAL CODE"
CONFIRMED BY TORY MOUTHPIECE

Perhaps now you will respond to the fact that Labour will have to run to catch up with your party in the Sex pest stakes Keith
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 07:00 PM

Point very well made. But we're only human...

Sarcasm is as good a way as any of dealing with 'em. Out-and-out dishonesty though, if not confronted, can bring Mudcat into disrepute.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 06:47 PM

My mother has dementia - we are so glad she never learned how to use a computer or the internet.

My sister who passed away several years back,
had mental health problems, was a manipulative self obsessive martyr,
and as far as I could tell, unhealthily out of control on the internet.
If she were still alive, who knows what serious problems she would now be causing on social networks
for anyone who she took a petty dislike to....???

I say this because of my own experience with problematic folks close to me;
my awarenes of mudcat's aging members,
and concern for the well being of certain difficult individuals....

...it's best to not get drawn into pointless conflict with them.
but also not helpful to respond by being hostile and insulting when they exasperate and antagonise us....

.. but i'm no angel.. so occasional sarcasm is ok when fed up reading their nonsense...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 06:05 PM

"None of it has come from me."

We'd like even less than that from now on, please.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 05:22 PM

I realise that MOST people on this forum are of a reasonable intelligence.

How is it that one person can deny that "37 Conservative MP's are the subjects of allegations of sexual impropriety and 4 Labour MP's are subject to the same scrutiny"

That is FACT.

I have said before, recently, that I think this individual is suffering from advancing dementia, his continued behaviour only serves to reinforce this opinion.

Can I suggest that in order to maintain I modicum of reasoned debate we nod kindly and say, yes, yes and basically do not reply to his rambling.

Perhaps it would be kinder, although I am not, personally, inclined to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 05:15 PM

Jim,
Enough Keith - you've vomited yourt hate enough

I have expressed none.
I have only repeated what Labour members are saying about their own party, both on anti-Semitism and misogyny.
None of it has come from me.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 04:54 PM

Rag,
details of complaints he claims have been made within the Labour Party in recent years.

See the letter from over 40 Labour women MPs and the Labour Too report. Both recent.
Plenty there.

Dave.
intimating that only the Labour party suffer from this flaw.
I have not intimated that, and we are all aware of issues in other parties.

You have still not addressed Jackaroodaves excellent points nor my point that if a lack of complaints indicates a lack of anything to complain about does that mean that Women's rights are upheld to a higher standard in countries where the complaints are fewest?

Yes I have.
It is circumstances that lead to womens' silence on this.
They do not differ between the parties.
You have not answered the point that there is no special reason why Tory women, say, would keep silent and Labour not.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 03:27 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33785352
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi5-helped-margaret-thatcher-cover-6120006
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 02:52 PM

You are not going to stop are you Keiuth?
You failed at Antisemitiusm
All your article mentions and more have been done by tories - and they were let off
A Tory aid was accused of raping a drunken women - he got off because the defence did not reaveal the wonam's records and she went to the press - he probably raped her - she was drunk so she was "taken advantage of" - he escaped justice on a technicality
"describes being molested in a hotel room by a drunk senior party official"
Happenes regularly in all parties
" lewd comments and sexist attitudes. "
Like the tory who sent his secretary for sex toys and refers to her as "sweet tits"
"a man was harassing me and wouldn’t leave me alone,"
You defeded Damien Green fro doing just this - he offered promotion for sex
Every single example you have dredged up has been happening in Parliament from time immemorial
Tory ministers, top Civil servants and members of the house of Lords were accused of regular orgies involving children at Dolphin Square
EVEN A PRIME MINISTER
UNINVESTGATED CLAIMS
MORE
,font color=red>Later during PMQs May was asked by Labour backbencher Lisa Nandy about concerns that the Conservative whips’ office had stockpiled reports of potentially criminal behaviour by MPs to pressure them into loyalty.

“Can I say to her that three years ago I brought evidence to her in this house that whips had used information about sexual abuse to demand loyalty from MPs,” Nandy said.

“I brought this information to her in this house and I warned her at the time that unless real action was taken we risked repeating those injustices again today. On three occasions I asked her to act and on three occasions she did not.”

Nandy was referring to claims made by a former Tory whip in the 1990s that during the early 1970s the Edward Heath government covered up scandals involving child abuse to pressure MPs.

May replied: “I will say to her that I am very clear that the whips’ office – I hope this goes for all whips’ offices across this house – should make clear to people that where there are any sexual abuse allegations that could be of a criminal nature, people should go to the police.”
Enough Keith - you've vomited yourt hate enough
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 02:47 PM

Someone has always been self pleasuring PFR. The phrase I used was 'wanker' :-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 02:05 PM

is this thread starting to get a bit too steamy...???

Someone's prurient preocupation with the reported details of women's complaints of abuse,
is possibly verging on the self pleasuring....???????

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 02:00 PM

Keith. You only accept that the whole political spectrum have an issue with abuse because we have spent the last few days hammering that fact into you. Had we have not done so we would have been left with your misleading statement "other parties do not have such a problem" intimating that only the Labour party suffer from this flaw. You tried your best to say that you never intended to say that in the first place but this thread, and your past history, indicates to anyone who can read that your credibility is non existent. Little wonder that you defend the alt-truth mongers like Farage when you model yourself on them.

You have still not addressed Jackaroodaves excellent points nor my point that if a lack of complaints indicates a lack of anything to complain about does that mean that Women's rights are upheld to a higher standard in countries where the complaints are fewest?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 01:46 PM

I wonder if the idiot would care to let the rest of us have details of complaints he claims have been made within the Labour Party in recent years.

I would suggest that he if tries to do so he will fail so I expect a wall of silence of this one.

Should he try to go back decades I will start with the allegations regarding what I am sure will be one of his heroes. None other than Winston Spencer Churchill who it would seem couldn't keep his pecker in his trousers.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

PS I've got a funeral tomorrow so won't be around. Although I WILL respond to any lies if I can. If not I'm sure I can rely on others here.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 01:44 PM

Rag, New Statesman last week.

When the “Pestminster” scandal hit British politics last October, a group of Labour women set up their own campaign, called LabourToo. The aim was to collect Labour women’s experiences of sexual harassment and abuse in the hope of alerting the party leadership to a problem that had been ignored for too long.

At least four MPs are accused of misconduct – including inappropriate touching, propositioning, trying to take advantage of a drunk teenager, and ignoring a rape complaint.
The report, entitled “#LabourToo: Women’s experiences of sexual harassment, abuse and discrimination in the Labour Party”, tells 43 anonymised stories by party staffers, activists, politicians and candidates at both a national and local level, including reports of rape, groping, lewd comments and sexist attitudes.
One story recounts a rape during the party’s annual conference. “I was raped at [party conference], a man was harassing me and wouldn’t leave me alone,” reads the testimony. “I am no longer a member of the party and this at least in part played a role. I told my region and an MP I trusted. No-one cared.”


Another similar account from a party conference describes being molested in a hotel room by a drunk senior party official. “He pushed me down onto the bed and started to kiss and grope me,” the writer recalls. “I told him no and to stop but he ignored it.”
There are also reports on a local level, with one woman being groped by a “councillor who was very well-known to senior figures in the local Labour Party for being a serial groper of women” while out canvassing: “He would come up behind me and put a hand on my hips or round my waist when feeding back the data, and would always want to put ‘vote Labour’ stickers on women in a way that meant he could touch their breasts.”
Although more than 43 accounts were submitted to the group, some had to be left out for naming perpetrators or for fear of identifying the writer – LabourToo, including its organisers, are anonymous. Its main aim is not to shame the party, but to achieve structural change.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 01:25 PM

ding dong..... sanity calling....

Not content with dead pig heads, those depraved over privileged tories are fucking the entire nation...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Mar 18 - 01:20 PM

Rag,
Those figures are not comparable.
There are more than 4 complaints against Labour MPs over recent years.

The figure 37 is from a dossier about Tory MPs only.
There was no comparable survey to make comparisons with other parties.

No objective comparison has been made by anyone.
There is much more recent research available. Consider that reported to Parliament by Andrea Leadsome which you claimed knowledge of.

I mistakenly thought your 6 month old dossier was the same one.
It is not and your old one has been forgotten by everyone.