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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Amergin Date: 15 Sep 03 - 11:59 PM boy...sounds like you all will have a cracking time....wish I could be there....the gods only know when I'll be making it there... |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 15 Sep 03 - 11:53 PM G'day Charley, The Loaded Dog is an acoustic venue ... no electric amplification - and excellent acoustics (formerly wasted on boring alderpersons!). (And we have marked the acoustic "sweet spot" with intersecting strips of "gaffer tape".) The audience is an appreciative acoustic audience ... they listen hard if necessary - and sing loudly when that is appropriate! (Sandra may not have got back in ... Mudcat keeps vanishing - maybe ASIO keeps tripping over the tapping cables! [I should post John Dengate's old song ASIO - The Political Asylum!]. Anyway you won't need to wear out too much of your vocal chords at the Dog. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Sep 03 - 04:30 PM Here's our schedule as it looks now: Depart Portland, ME, Tuesday, 3:25 pm, 11 November Arrive Sydney, AU, Thursday, 8:15 am, 13 November Depart to Cairns, AU, Saturday, 15 November and arrive 10.50 am; van to Port Douglas Depart from Cairns to Sydney, AU, Thursday, 20 November and arrive 5:30 pm Depart from Sydney to Newcastle area Saturday, 29 November Return from Newcastle area to Sydney Wednesday, 3 December Depart Sydney, AU, Thursday, 3:15 pm, 4 December, and arrive in Portland, ME, Thursday, 10 pm, 4 December Amazing, it takes us less than 7 hours to reach home! When I and my wife return to Sydney on November 20th, presumably joining up with Brett, we'll have over a week to rattle around in that fair city. Then Judy and I scuttle off to the Newcastle area to visit with our nephew's new family, and graze the vineyards of the Hunter Valley. I'd still like to connect with Newcastle folks for a song party if possible. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Sep 03 - 11:58 AM Sandra- Ah, I just noticed your post above that Brett and I have 30 minutes to play with at The Loaded Dog. What joy! My wife Judy will be in attendence but will not be performing that night. She'd feel more comfortable doing that at one of the more private parties, perhaps gracing the company with one of her wondefully warped songs or stories. Now both Brett and I are strong singers but we'd like to know whether we will be working with or without a sound system. If we're working without a sound system and the space is typically noisy, that will dictate more shanty shouts rather than ballads. Could you clarify? Brett- sounds like you'll need more than an eight-day railpass. Judy and I just confirmed our major reservations and we'll email you our itinary. The week after The Loaded Dog we're leaving open for Sydney fun and frolics. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 Sep 03 - 09:44 AM Brett - the famous Poms from Oz who toured UK earlier (there is a thread somwhere about their tour) live in Townsville & I'm sure Hrothgar would have other contacts for Nthn Qld folk clubs Time passes & Nov approaches! sandra I've just returned from the Jamberoo festival - I travelled with JennyO & sent time with JennyG & Bob Bolton. It was a great festival, spoiled only by huge winds, which got so bad on Sun night that the fna concerts were cancelled & the big marquees were taken down (in the pouring rain!) The only thing left standing was the huge circus tent, but thye session continued in the pub till all hours & was not stopped by the continuing storm & consequent blackout. We just thought Mine Host was saying "Time, please (Ladies &) Gentlemen" when the lights went out, until he appeared with a candle & torch. It was a great festival & I finally met the West Oz band Loaded Dog & hope to have them at the Dog next year. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 14 Sep 03 - 07:19 PM At this stage I think my plan is to fly into Cairns, jump the train and head straight for Sydney. That will get the big travel time out of the way. Then, after some time in the south I'll make my way north again. I'd like to see some of the interior as I head north. With the rail pass I'll be able to wander as I wish. Anyway, Hrothgar, you can expect me in Brisbane at some point. I will have a clearer itinerary as we get closer to the travel dates. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Hrothgar Date: 12 Sep 03 - 04:53 AM Let me know any Brisbane stops. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Sep 03 - 08:20 PM Well, Punchenello, you're really signing on for true adventure. What spirit, what courage! Now if we can only convince some friendly Aussies to set up emergency stashes along your proposed route or hospitality tent whistle-stops. It does look like you should spend at least a day in Brisbane. The only rail I've been worried about is the one we'll be riding after we sing our songs at The Loaded Dog, as we're paraded down to Circular Quay. Is there still such a tradition in Oz, with the tar and feathers? Bob- I must examine your pack of concertinas more closely. They do sound intriguing. Are/is the Roarin' Forties doing any gigs in November that we should know about? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 11 Sep 03 - 07:30 PM I checked the site for the trains (http://www.traveltrain.qr.com.au/) and they have an 8 day rail pass for only $550 $AUD. That coupled with a $440 plane ticket seems to fit the bill. So, despite the musical warnings to the contrary, I guess I will get around on the train. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 11 Sep 03 - 09:12 AM Brett - Virgin airlines (blicky way above) is new to the Oz market & has lots of cheap flights. Hrothgar has not frightened us with train fares (but don't forget the $AU is somewhere around 2/3 of the $US). www.rba.gov.au - (Reserve Bank)- has monthly conversion rates. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Sep 03 - 08:48 AM Hrothgar- Thanks for the train update from Cairns to Brisbane. That's almost a reasonable time for the journey, and I do love the name "tilt train." I conveys a graphic image of just what's happening as it attempts to negotiate some of the hairpin turns along the ridges and valleys of the coast. So, Brett, are you game to ride the rails? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Hrothgar Date: 11 Sep 03 - 06:40 AM Bob, You might not have been keeping up with tilt train developments. The journey between Brisbane and Cairns is 24 hours 55 minutes over a distance of 1,681 kilometres. That is just under 70 Km/h including a hell of a lot of stops. The tilt train is actually capable of 160 km/h in service, and something more when they are playing with it. Yes, on a 3'6" gauge - specially engineered to take it. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 11 Sep 03 - 01:54 AM G'day again Charley, I'm not sure what I was on 4 weeks back, but I just noticed that I said: ... My G/D Lachenal is only a 22-key model ... standard diatonic "bush concertina" plus a G#/A# key on the top end of left hand 'C' row and a C#/D# button at the top end of right hand 'C' row. ... ... errrr ... I seem to have been describing my G/C 22-key Lachenal, not my D/G, which is in a standard, basic 20-key form ... no semitone keys, and so probably not much help to a player of 30-key instruments (although I had been discussing some cunning button additions by maker/repairer Richard Evans). Regards - and we'll see you in November! Bob |
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Subject: Tune Add: SCHWABISCHE EISENBAHN/QUEENSLAND RAILWAY From: Bob Bolton Date: 10 Sep 03 - 10:08 AM G'day again, Charley: Here is the MIDItext version of the traditional German tune (Schwabische Eisenbahn) used for On The Queensland Railway Lines (so you have something to while away a couple of slow days!). You can use the Mudcat program to turn this into a playable MIDI file, so you can get it right.
This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 10 Sep 03 - 09:24 AM G'day Charley, The Queensland rural railway lines embody everything that was implicit in the Australian application of the term "pioneering standards" in the railway world. For starters, they are running on narrow gauge: 3' 6" (1067 mm) ... in New South Wales we have standard gauge: 4' 8½" (1435 mm) ... and, as you cross south into s(t)olid Victoria the gauge rises again to broad gauge: 5' 3" (1600 mm)! The Queensland narrow gauge doesn't allow anything like express speeds (although they do manage a bit better speed than Tasmania got out of their narrow gauge ... the intercity express - The Tasman Limited (very!) did Hobart to Launceston (~120 of those old miles ... about 193 kilometres) ... in 5½ hour, just ½ hour better than the "slow" service! Queensland rail may be an adventure, but it is one that needs a long, leisurely visit to savour its delights. Sandra's contacts with the Arena family might manage to winkle out the right slang terms (of the fish market girls) for you ... skitch Sandra off to do some research! We have at least on local folksong drawing on The Ship That Never Returned (as does Charley on the MTA or The Man Who Never Returned) ... but ours is about a bunch of boozers waiting for a timberman to come back and spend his next pay cheque. Regards, Bob |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Sep 03 - 08:27 AM Bob- What wonderful train songs! They clearly right up there with Utah Philips' "Starlight on the Rails" and the Carter Family's "Railroading on the Great Divide." They also confirm my suspicions about the delight of such travel, as a mode of getting from one place to another. Study them lyrics carefully, Brett, or we may be compelled to launch a new version of "Charley's on the MTA" at The Loaded Dog. And with regard to the Sydney Fish Market, I do know exactly where it is in terms of longitude and latitude. We used to walk by it on our way downtown when we were in Sydney two yars ago. However, I did an inadequate job of collecting the cultural information required for refitting one of our dockside songs to the Fish Market area. With the help of our genial hosts, the Horvaths, we did a much better job over at Woolloomooloo. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 10 Sep 03 - 08:19 AM Sorry, folks I wasn't at work today so I have no info from my friend John, member of the famous Arena family, one of the famous Italian family companies which ARE the Sydney Fish Markets. I have info from Canberra Chris & it looks like you can have 30 mins between you. Will Judy be joining you? sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Hrothgar Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:30 AM Link for Queensland Railways: http://www.traveltrain.qr.com.au/ Link for New South Wales Railways: http://www.countrylink.info/ You can use those to plan your schedule (and work out a few fares) I have to work on these blue clicky things. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 10 Sep 03 - 02:40 AM G'day Charley, JennieG noted: "The original name for Darling Harbour was Cockle Bay, if that helps." Strictly speaking, Cockle Bay is the southern end of Darling Harbour ... where all the Darling Harbour tourist and commercial development (Harbourside Festival Market Place!) is. The James Craig moors in the real shipping harbour, which is correctly called Darling Harbour ... and the Fish Markets are on the nor-east side of Blackwattle Bay. I haven't bought my fish supplies from there lately, but the Markets are made up of lots of small, private - and largely Mediterranean-owned shops. I couldn't really say I know of a generic name for the workers, male or female ... not in English, anyway! Regards, Bob Bolton (Sorry Hrothgar ... "Hrithgar" is Hrothgar when he forgets his cookie ... or I forget how to type!) |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 09 Sep 03 - 11:51 PM G'day Brett, go to this Yahoo site for both Qantas and Virgin ... and car hire: Qantas& Virgin airlines and some Car Hire or go straight to Qantas: Qantas. Qantas did once start of small, rural and Queensland ... (Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service - but that was a long time ago! I think it might have been Hrithgar that mentioned train fare ... but he's probably right! (Last time I went by 'bus ... full of Illawarra Folk Club / Wongawilli Band members going to the National Folk Festival - back in 1990!) Regards (and see you next month ... XX/ \XX, Bob |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 09 Sep 03 - 11:20 PM I've been checking around and found a flight from Guam to Cairns. Now I have to figure out how to get from Cairns to Sydney. The train would be fun. Bob, what is the fare? You said it would cause a sharp intake of breath. Are there websites for Australian airlines? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: ON THE QUEENSLAND RAILWAY LINES From: Bob Bolton Date: 09 Sep 03 - 09:20 PM G'day Charley and Brett, I promised a couple of songs to inform your fantasy of taking the Queensland Railways from tropical Cairns to the civilised (and vastly more temperate) clime of Sydney. On the Queensland Railway Lines Repertory of the Wynnum North Junior Greenhide-&-Stringybark Orchestra Tune: German Folk Tune (Schwarbische Eisenbahn) On the Queensland railway lines There are stations where one dines; Private individuals Also run refreshment stalls. Chorus: Bogan- Tungan, Rollingstone, Mungar, Murgon, Marathon(e) Guthalungra, Pinkenba, Wanko, Yaamba - ha, ha, ha! Pies and coffee, baths and showers Are supplied at Charters Towers; At Mackay the rule prevails Of restricting showers to males. Chorus: Bogan- Tungan, Rollingstone ... Males and females, high and dry, Hang around at Durikai, Boora-Mugga, Djarawong, Giligulgul, Wonglepong. Chorus: Bogan- Tungan, Rollingstone ... Iron rations come in handy On the way to Dirranbandi; Passengers have died of hunger During halts at Garradunga. Chorus: Bogan- Tungan, Rollingstone ... Let us toast, before we part, Those who travel, stout of heart, Drunk or sober, rain or shine, On a Queensland railway line. Chorus: Bogan- Tungan, Rollingstone ... Notes from The Queensland Centenary Pocket Songbook, Federation of Bush Music Groups, Brisbane, p. 53, Pub. Edwards & Shaw, Sydney, New South Wales, 1959: Reference to the introductory pages of the Queensland Railways Timetable for Long-Distance and Country Trains will confirm the unflinching accuracy of this grim little song. The translation and versification were made by members of the Brisbane Realist Writers' Group. Notes from The Second Penguin Australian Songbook, Bill Scott, p. 189, Penguin Books, Ringwood, Victoria, 1980: This entertaining and catchy song was written at the home of John Manifold in the late 1950s. John had translated a German folksong about a little railway into English, and someone suggested that it would be fun to write a song about the local equivalent. A train timetable was obtained, and a search made for stations with odd and interes- ting names for inclusion in the song. Most were eventually incorporated. The details about refreshment and. bathing facilities were all too deadly true at the time; and as the Queensland Railways are traditionalist in habit and nature, the chances are that they are still the same. I am not sure if all these stations are still open, for some branch lines have been closed for economic reasons, but I know that the list of strange place names has hardly changed. For instance, very close to Giligulgul are (or were) Gulugaba and Wubagul. There was even a tiny waiting shed beside the tracks between Barcaldine and Longreach called 'the 832½ Mile'. These words were composed by the team of writers present and fitted to the German tune, with its delightful locomotive-like beat, and so a new song was born. It has remained tremendously popular ever since, and has even been included in an anthology of poetry intended for study in schools. As you are unlikely to recall the tune to Schwarbische Eisenbahn, I will post a MIDItext version from home ... after I have set it into my music program. Charley, if you want to sing these songs ... all the way from Cairns to Sydney ... I can e-mail a PDF images of the "song sheets" created in my program. The Wild Beaudesert Train Some bards have sung the isles of Greece, and some the summer rain, Fill high the cup with wine! I sing the wild Beaudesert train! Some sing the gees on Ascot course and some the spring's sweet reign But I, in keenest wine, I pledge the wild Beaudesert train. Behind us drops the smoky town, the pubs, the City Tower. We thunder out to Dutton Park in under half an hour. Tonight we seek no amber ale, nor pause to boil the billy As limned in fire and black with smoke we roar through Yeerongpilly. And now we yank the throttles wide, the furnace fires gleam As Cooper's Plains goes flashing past, a phantom in a dream; The metals sing an angry song, the clanking pistons strain, And cowering people cry, 'Behold! The wild Beaudesert train!' We take on corn at Waterford and logs at Logan Village, Lord knows what at Cedar Grove, and crops of Woodhill tillage. Now wilder, wilder glows the pace as drunk with speed and power We thunder round the Veresoak Bend at seven miles an hour. Black smoke leaps belching from our stack, a roar affrights the ear And far across the blue-gum flats pale farmers blanch with fear. And darkies sing their babes to sleep with threatening refrain, 'By Cripes! He come and gobble you, that wild Beaudesert train!' But crowd on canvas! Stoke her up! For wingéd Gods are here; We pass the sawmill like a streak, a sort of smoky smear. The wheels fly off, the boiler tubes are busted up and broke, We dash into Beaudesert town, a storm of flame and smoke. And still the grey-beards tell the tale, and swear by all the powers We made the run from Melbourne Street in under seven hours! Yea, down the years they hand the yarn and chant the wild refrain, 'By George, those days 'twas hard to beat the wild Beaudesert train!' Notes from The Second Penguin Australian Songbook, Bill Scott, p 181, Penguin Books, Ringwood, Victoria, 1980: Garry Tooth, an original member of the Moreton Bay Bush Music Society, was once holidaying at a resort near the Lamington National Park in south-east Queensland. This poem was pasted to the wall of his bedroom. The humour and the wry comment it makes about the speed and comfort of the Queensland Railways appealed to Garry enormously. This becomes understandable when you realize that the town of Beaudesert is only about 100 kilometres from Brisbane! Garry realized that the r tune for the folksong The Lachlan Tigers fitted the words beautifully, and also that the driving rhythm of that music suited the words and sentiment of the poem, so he married the two, and often sang it with great success in public performances. I have tried to trace the poet, but in vain, and if he is still with us, would like to apologize for using his verse without his permission. However, the song is too good to omit. The tune to should be in the DT ... but I can post to this thread if necessary! Regards, Bob Bolton |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Sep 03 - 05:35 PM I knew we could provoke a few more songs, enough to keep this thread from slipping below the line! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 09 Sep 03 - 10:18 AM G'day Charley, Express train ... ? Queensland ... ? I'll dig out and post a song: On The Queensland Railway Lines (written by the Brisbane Realist Writers Group .. all of them! ... to the tune of Der Schwabische Eisenbahn! Regards, Bob Bolton |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Sep 03 - 09:16 AM Hello, Charley As one of my colleagues is a member of a family well known at the fish markets, I'll see if he knows. He spent many an early morning unloading fish from trawlers, now he keeps far more respectable hours! sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Sep 03 - 08:43 AM JennieG- Well, "Cockle Bay" does have a nice warm sound to it! But to be more specific, how would the woman who work at the Fish Market be referred to by their male counterparts, as the Fish Market girls, some company name, or some other slang? Hrothgar- 3 to 4 days from Cairns to Brisbane! Is that the express run? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Hrothgar Date: 09 Sep 03 - 07:52 AM 06.37 Guest was me. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: JennieG Date: 09 Sep 03 - 06:45 AM Charley, The original name for Darling Harbour was Cockle Bay, if that helps. Cheers JennieG |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: GUEST Date: 09 Sep 03 - 06:37 AM Train from Cairns to Sydney is about 1800 miles, and you will have to change in Brisbane. i think Cairns to Brisbane is about 3 to 4 days. Brisbane to Sydney is overnight (or all day). I'll dig out a bit more, if you like. Fares, for a start, might cause an intake of breath ... |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Sep 03 - 09:42 AM Bob Bolton has been tantilizing me with descriptions of the renovated tall ship the James Craig at Darling Harbour. I think she had just appeared there when we were in Sydney back in December of 2001. I've since read several articles about her history and the battle to bring her back from Tasmania and fully restore her. I would love to sing one of C. Fox Smith's fine sea poems in her honor if someone could smuggle me aboard. The place Judy and I will be staying while we're in Sydney is located near the corner of Bellevue Street and St. John's Road. It's one of those famous Sydney terraced houses, not very wide but with at least 4 floors. We did manage to walk over to John Dengate's house, and had a wonderful evening of wine and songs. I'm generally a good walker but I was somewhat slowed down from an accident up in the Blue Mountains while I was attempting to demonstrate to my wife how Govett achieved his magnificant leap; them mossy rocks are slippery! I'm in the process of adapting a Jon Campbell dockside song to Sydney and was wondering what the area around the Fish Market is called. Is it Darling Harbour or Blackwattle Bay? Darling Harbour scans better but I really don't want to make too free with the local geography (see, Joe, this is a music thread). Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 08 Sep 03 - 09:39 AM www.sydneytransport.net.au When you are in Sydney call them on 131 500 & they know everything. I assume the website will offer the same service as is offered by phone - say where you are & give the address of the place you want to get to & they hit the keyboard & say catch bus X to corner of this street & that then walk down the road, turn left etc. It's great! The 412 Campsie bus from the CBD goes to their door, & there are lotsa buses from Glebe to the CBD. More info later by PM. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 07 Sep 03 - 06:52 PM Charley reminded me in an email that time is short and the water is rising. He also made me look at the schedule and revise my plans. For some reason I thought the Loaded Dog was on the 28th! Good thing he gave me his itinerary. I do not yet have any definite plans but I will work on that this week. There is a rumor of a $199 special to Australia from Guam so I need to get on the horn to the airlines and check it out. Oops, gotta go. I will continue this later. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: JennyO Date: 07 Sep 03 - 11:14 AM Charley and Brett, John and I would really like to have a party for you here at Earlwood, and I don't think it matters much whether it's the day before or the day after the Dog. As Sandra mentioned, it's really accessible by public transport, with several buses stopping right outside our door. Charley if you want to PM me what street you will be staying in, I will find out some details about what buses will get you here. Having only just moved here myself, I am not familiar with them yet - also what actual dates you will be in Sydney. Brett, do you know where you will be staying, and what dates you will be in Sydney? Jenny |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Sep 03 - 10:55 AM Opps! I see I mistyped "December 21st" above and I clearly meant "NOVEMBER 21ST." And thanks for the directions to Earlwood, "across them Western Suburbs we will wander." And Brett, if you fly into Cairns around November 12th you could vanpool with us to Port Douglas for snorkling the Great Barrier Reef and other adventures. A train ride from Cairns to Sydney is one adventure that Judy and I will skip (maybe some of you folks from Downunder can fill Brett in with lurid details of trainwrecks, bandits, and train cuisine). You do want to make it to Sydney for The Loaded Dog and associated musical special events. Sandra- Do the Friday evening "sessions" rotate among people's homes? It would be truly wonderful if one could be set up in November within walking distance of where we are in Glebe. And Bob, we did do some walking, all the way to Glebe Point Road for breakfast every morning! Although I admit that distance is relatively modest compared with your trek from your neighborhood to downtown. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 07 Sep 03 - 09:44 AM Charley & Brett - John & Jenny's house has a bus-stop outside & I would normally get there by bus - buses leave from the CBD. Friday nights are often session nights!! One will be arranged. Qld Folk Clubs http://folk.mountaintracks.com.au/Folk_Australia/clubs_qld.html Cairns Folk Club http://folk.mountaintracks.com.au/Folk_Australia/clubs_qld.html#cairns Towsnville & Mackay are on the way from Cairns from Brisbane & have folk clubs - maybe Hrothgar can give you more info. I've sent him an email. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 07 Sep 03 - 02:57 AM Charley, I haven't any idea yet. I cannot find anything about flights on the internet. None of the usual suspects carry information for flights out of Guam. Continental seems to be the only choice and their price is around $600 for a package deal to Cairns. Still researching. I may fly into Cairns and take the train to Sydney. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 06 Sep 03 - 09:11 PM G'day Charley, Earlwood is about 10 km/6 miles south west of Sydney centre (that makes it an inner-west suburb!) It's on a train line, but equidistand between the Princes Highway and Parramatta Rd (Great Western Highway) ... and it's also John Warner territory. For better map references, press the Horvaths ... that's what geographers are for! Regards, Bob Bolton |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Sep 03 - 08:41 PM JennyO- I'll be based in Glebe, overlooking the famous Grayhound racing rink. Now I know how to find Bob Bolton's neighborhood but I haven't got a clue which direction Earlwood is; you may want to e-mail me the specifics but general directions are probably OK to post here. Is there anything interesting going on Friday, December 21st? That date might also be an option for a song party. Brett- When are you planning to parachute in? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 04 Sep 03 - 05:51 PM Sign me up! I am really looking forward to this trip. However, I am having trouble figuring out how to arrange things for travel. None of the Internet sites have flight information out of Guam! I need to talk with my co-workers about how to do this. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: JennyO Date: 04 Sep 03 - 01:49 PM I am finally back online after almost a month without Mudcat, having finally completed the dreaded house-moving, and I've just found this thread. It occurs to me, Charlie, that the perfect place for the song-party the day after the Dog, might be my new digs at Earlwood, seeing as my new housemate and partner in crime is none other than the aforementioned John Warner. He hasn't seen this thread yet, but I'm assuming that date will be alright. Without going into too many details at this point, I'll just say that many plans, musical and otherwise, are afoot, and there is much to celebrate. Magic is in the air! No doubt a lot of the wonderful friends who helped me move will be there too, and you and Brett can help us warm the house some more (by then I imagine we will have already had a few parties and sessions to start the warming process). Also if both or either of you are in Sydney on December 4, there is my folk club, North By Northwest, at Gladesville. We will have an excellent band "Wheelers and Dealers" performing, supported by Ian Macintosh, who is one of the people who helped me on moving day and a member of the Wheeze and Suck Band. If we know you are coming we could probably arrange to have some of the Roaring Forties there too, and a decent sized floor spot would be in order. I'll tell John about all this tomorrow, and see what he thinks. Jenny |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 02 Sep 03 - 09:14 AM Chris's tentative reply (before rehearsal) was that maybe 6-8 Bums would do solo spots. I still haven't received a reply 24 hours after rehearsal, so maybe I will need to be bossy (I'm good at that!!) & make executive decisions. But I'll remind him again. Brett, will you be bringing the 12 string? What if THEY poke & prod at it, being Alert but not Alarmed (as our Prime Minister Little Johnny so eloquently puts it)? You might be able to use a local guitar, I could ask if you're interested. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Hrothgar Date: 02 Sep 03 - 06:05 AM If somebody is coming to Brisbane, let me know. |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 01 Sep 03 - 11:07 PM The Dark Side? Charley, did you think I'd trade my 12-string for an electric bass? I'm shocked! Of course, Ina-Gadda-Da-Vidda sounds great on the 12! |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 30 Aug 03 - 08:49 AM Charley - dunno yet, I'll have to get back to you. A normal Dog has the support doing 30 min, with the main act doing 2 sets of 30min & 60min, but The Bums always do less than 90mins. As I want individual Bums to do floor spots too (they are a talented lot of folks) I have to sort out timing. I'll contact Canberra Chris to see how long the Bums want & how many of them want to do a floor spot. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 29 Aug 03 - 05:38 PM Sandra- With regard to "floor spots" at The Loaded Dog, how many songs should Brett and I be planning to sing? If we could each lead a couple that would be very nice. Of course I haven't sung with Brett for months and I don't have a clue what he's planning to sing; he may have gone over to the DARK SIDE... Helen- Did you find out anything more about the Newcastle folks? We may do better having a party than trying to line up with their regular session; Judy and I need to be back in the States by December 4th. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:14 AM The Dengates are the folks who live in Glebe & walk to the Dog - I'll suggest they add the Nov Dog to their diary. John now has CD - a double recorded at a house concert & released earlier this year. His Sydney CD launch will be at Jenny's club in Sept. sandra |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Bob Bolton Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:04 AM G'day Charlie & Brett, I gather the Blackheath Folk Cub is still in full swing - I'll chase them up and see if a meeting fits in with your trip schedule. Regards, Bob |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:49 AM Denis "Kevans" of course! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:47 AM Brett- Maybe we should split up at some point. This Land of OZ is such a big sprawling country. You could follow up Harry Robertson's waterfront haunts in Brisbane while we're getting our ashes hauled in Newcastle. But then you might want to check out the Blackheath Folk Club in the Blue Mountains; I wonder if they're still gathering at the Ivanhoe Hotel? They were such nice friendly folks when we were there two years ago. I can still hear Denis Kevals extolling the virtues of pouring concrete into the surrounding valleys, "all so gray and smooth." And then that's where we met Sydney political singer-songwriter John Dengate and his wife and heard his songs for the first time. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: OZ Foray from Maine & Guam-Late November From: Naemanson Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:02 AM Oh my! How things happen when you are off line for a while. I need to get a map of the country and figure out where all these places are you keep talking about. But I also need to keep unpacking and get myeself settled into my new abode. |
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