Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Bill S from Adelaide Date: 07 Feb 09 - 06:20 AM 46.7 today was a mite warm. I was with a friend from Swan Hill in the week, he doesn't know how hot it was, the standard thermometer only goes to 50, he is guessing at 52. Cheers Bill S from Melbourne |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 07 Feb 09 - 12:31 AM Yes, Maggie Chickens -- Roosters, hens, chickens -- all chooks. For little kids -- "Chookies". I've thought it comes from the way they're called -- as in "Here chook, chook, chook" which in turn may come from the sounds they make. Must look it up. Some signs around Melbourne offer "Hot Chooks" as in roasted ones. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Feb 09 - 12:23 AM Chooks? Chickens? |
Subject: RE: BS: Fire. Now it's fire. Victoria, Aus. From: Joybell Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:19 PM We've just gone past frying eggs and even whole chooks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 06 Feb 09 - 11:16 PM Some of Melbourne's tracks looked loke that, I understand. We've just come off "High alert. Activate your fire plan NOW". It's the first time our little community has had a mention on National Radio. Our wonderful voluteer firefighters (they didn't call on True-love, he's among the oldest of them) managed to put it out before it reached us. It was as close as 10 kms. We still have power. So far we're cool. There are three fires of concern around us but they're not so close -- yet. One is to the West -- from where the wind is blowing -- but there's a big regional town between us and that fire. My daughter lives East of Melbourne a mountain ridge away from the big fire in the Bunyip State Forest that's moving in on the small towns around it. So far the wind's blowing that fire away from her but there's a change blowing in. Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Feb 09 - 10:01 PM pic was of SA lines where the extreme heat has lasted longer, our lines aren't in that condition - yet, & hopefully won't be. We are affected by the normal weekend maintenance that happens on suburban lines, + the necessary/mandated slower travel (10km ph) in hot weather. I'll be catching 2 buses to freda's tonight - normally trains are faster ... sandra |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Rowan Date: 06 Feb 09 - 09:51 PM And the third attempt at posting this might be lucky. THe BoM's Four day Forecast seems to indicate that SYdney might get the benefit of a low pressure trough with some cool air behind it tomorrow night, while Melbourne should be receiving a cold front tonight. For those of you north of the equator, our "Highs" have an anticlockwise airflow (hence the hot air from the interior currently over Sydney) and our "Lows" have a circular airflow. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Rowan Date: 06 Feb 09 - 09:46 PM And if this can happen to Sydney's railway lines taying at home might be the best move. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Feb 09 - 09:15 PM the heatwave (or a small portion of it) has reached Sydney - western suburbs are expecting 42 today & tomorrow, then we expect a big fall in temperatures for the week. Does that mean the heatwaves in SE Oz are finally starting to think about deciding to perhaps end - maybe. This morning I set out for the closer western suburbs. Yesterday's forecast hd been 36, but it had changed to 39 this morning, with an extra 2 degrees for the far western suburbs, with 31 in my harbourside area. I got as far as the station, saw Major Delays on the Western Line - bloke said there delays on most lines, with trains travelling slower, and it would get worse. As not all trains are air-conditioned (ps those trains are gradually being replaced) & I couldn't risk being stuck in a non-air con. train, even with a large water bottle, I went back home after buying some yummy sushi from the shop at the station. freda is planning to head to the mountains by train thru the western suburbs for a concert tomorrow & rang earlier this morning to ask if I wanted to join her. I immediately said no way I'd head west, even to the cooler mountains. That was before I headed to the station & heard about the condition of the lines, so I shall attempt to dissuade her very firmly from attempting the trip when I see her tonight, especially as the concert is one of 2 to launch a new CD. Admittedly she would be in an air conditioned Inter-City train, but ... She's having a singing session & I assume it will be much cooler when I set out again around 6pm. sandra (sitting in cool dark room, looking froward to lunch sometime soon) |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 06 Feb 09 - 06:55 PM Hello Sandra. I've been thinking of you too. Thank you for the hugs and all. We're hoping we can get through without buying water. We have a big house-tank and it should last out. We have other tanks for the vegetable garden and Wildlife. I don't dare look inside them. If it comes to it we'll share the house water with the birds and other Wildlife. The wild apple tree across the road, and the few that produced fruit in our orchard, are all growing baked apples!!! Really!! They are soft and cooked -- ON the trees. We surely live in interesting times. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 06 Feb 09 - 06:08 PM I've been wondering how you're going, Joy. Sending hugs & cool thoughts. I've been hearing about Bendigo where my friends are throwing buckets of water onto 95yr old mum's garden & onto the old tree on the footpath. Tree looks like an autumn tree with yellow leaves falling everywhere & they're hoping to save it to keep the shade on the street. will you need to buy water? sandra Residents warned as fire breaks lines doesn't apply to me, I can play golf in this weather! Tinderbox: Three states braced for fire threat |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Tangledwood Date: 06 Feb 09 - 05:51 PM I feel for you Joy, knowing what it's like but never having experienced it for such a long period. Last time I came down for an Avalon airshow, four years back I think, there was a 40+ spell of a few days. That's more than enough. Mal |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 06 Feb 09 - 05:44 PM Thank you Ebbie. Tangledwood I wish you'd tell that to our pet Rooster. He's not convinced. I have to chase him around his enclosure with a watering can of water. I remember chooks dying, in spite of one-on-one care, during the heat-waves of my childhood. Scary thing is -- This one's the worst on record and it follows 13 years of way-below average rainfall. The wind's swung around -- it's getting to be Fan-forced oven land outside. Might bring our little Ringtail Possum inside -- hanging basket and all. He's been through so much already. The gutters on the roof are filling up with dry leaves again -- still there's a good chance we'll avoid a bushfire -- there's nothing left to burn on the paddocks around us. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Tangledwood Date: 06 Feb 09 - 04:55 PM Don't know about frying eggs in Melbourne, it's starting to sound as if you could roast the whole chook! |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Ebbie Date: 06 Feb 09 - 04:36 PM "Sending" cool as rapidly as I can. |
Subject: RE: BS: No dying today in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 06 Feb 09 - 04:29 PM The heat-wave continues. Wild-life carers are overwhelmed. We try not to think about thousands of small non-human deaths. As for human deaths -- the Melbourne morgue has run out of room. People are advised not to die today -- preferably not for a week or two. Today is about to set another record. The wind is about to become gale-force. Bushfires are poised to advance on several small towns and on some outer suburbs of Melbourne. There's a fire-bug at work in Gippsland. A change due by tomorrow. Hope it comes. Off to fill bird-baths and frog ponds. Try not to wonder how low the water tanks are. Send more icebergs. Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 01 Feb 09 - 06:59 PM True-love who's American scoffs at what we call mountains. He once took me to see a glacier up in the Rockies. We had to keep stopping to get our breath -- and we were younger then, too. I came upon a Marmot sitting up on a rock beside the path. We were eye-to-eye with 10 inches between. I was quite proud of myself when a young local couple asked me what it was and I knew. Mind you my first thought was -- Wombat! with buck teeth, sitting in an unusual position. It's cooler! Off to prepare a drey for a pair of Ringtail Possums who lost their homes during the worst of the heat-wave. They came into care unconscious and near death. Soon there'll be a brand new housing development where their bushland used to be. Can't imagine that a day of 45 degrees was a good time to clear bush. No time to think about the misery and the deaths. It's cooler that's all I'll think about. Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 01 Feb 09 - 04:56 PM Hello Arnie, I sent you a Private Message but maybe that hasn't got through either. I've got a small gift for you if you'd like it. Here's what I said: Hello Arnie, I have a magazine sized glossy book of birds in our nearby mountains. (The Grampians) It's a very special place. An island of coastal plants on sandstone and granite 100 kms inland. I have other bird books that duplicate this litle publication so I don't really need it. Would you like me to send it to you? It's small and light and worth the effort because it's very well done with photographs and brief text. Not your usual tourist publication. That's why I've kept it 'till now. There are some notes by me from 20 years back when I first began to note the wildlife and plants -- just noting where I saw some of the birds. I'd be happy to pass it on to you if you could tell me where to send it. Regards, Joy Click on "send a personal message" and then on "Joybell" and we can go from there. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Arnie Date: 01 Feb 09 - 07:31 AM Joybell - I posted a message of thanks for the list of your feathered friends yesterday, but it does not seem to have appeared on this thread! So here's another attempt to thank you for the list. I've googled a few of them and am envious at both the variety of bird-life you have and the types of bird. Here's hoping that most of them survive the present heat-wave. If they're non-migratory then they're going to have a pretty tough time coping with the increasingly drier climate you mention. Unfortunately thousands of years of evolution may not have prepared them for a few years of no significant rainfall. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Ebbie Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:52 AM Years back an Australian stayed at the motel I was running at the time. He was an interesting fellow; his name, as I recall was Des Brooks. I realize that no one here will know him but stranger things have happened. (?) He was originally from Perth and eventually bought a pub in the interior. He said he had no competition because he was 250K in one direction from the nearest one and 350K in the other direction. I think he said he had 11 rooms and that whenever he needed more parking he just took the blade and enlarged the lot. He said that in the summer time they didn't drink alcohol, that it was too hot. He said too that people like me- who had never been exposed to that kind of heat and already past 40 - would probably not survive summers. The reason he was in Oregon was that when an American waitress working for him went back home he promised her that if she got married he would attend her wedding, although he had not been out of his own country before. She did, and so he did. He stayed at the motel a couple of weeks and then said he was moving closer to Portland so he could visit Mt. Hood. He wanted to see snow. He said he had never seen it live but that "of course, I know what it's like, from freezers and so on." I assured him that he would find it was quite different. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 31 Jan 09 - 05:33 PM That's us alright, Sandra. Thank you for the light relief. That's wonderful. They'll be regarded as a comedy duo in the clink. A possible career a-waiting. Things are improving a little. I've been noticing that Darwin(!) is cooler these days than we are. Ebbie, we're nearly 2/3rds of the way through Summer. I was born and raised in Melbourne. (I now live in a rural area where the temperatures are even higher than those Melbourne is experiencing.) The climate changes are significant. We always had heat waves -- but not every year. Heat waves were followed by downpours of rain in the form of thunderstorms. Now if we have Summer storms they are usually dry. This means that lightning strikes that start bushfires are now not followed by drenching rain. The last 13 years we've seen drought along with the rise of temperatures. Autumn/Fall rains used to come in March-April -- now we don't get much rain at all until well into Winter. I know this because I've been involved in native-tree planting programs for 30 years. Also I've been monitoring frogs. I no longer submit Autumn frog-call surveys because there are now no frog-calls then. Butterflies -- only two species this year instead of 7-8. We'll be alright. Humans and their domestic animals will be alright. And it's good that it's so -- but the rest of the natural world .... Thank you for the chance to rave. Thank you for asking, Ebbie. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 31 Jan 09 - 01:11 AM the current heat wave is extreme - recent articles about heatwave 14 months weather obs at a town in Joybell's area - dunno if it's representative of her little spot on the map Hamilton Heat and fires claim lives, property This fire was deliberately lit. sandra just noticed this - a bit of light relief, just what we all need - Chain of fools: cuffed escapees' run in with pole |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Ebbie Date: 30 Jan 09 - 10:40 PM My god. How do you bear it? Has it always been thus? You are not even in the middle of summer yet, are you? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 30 Jan 09 - 07:06 PM Thanks, frogprince. A few days back I scooped a little green Tree Frog out of a water bowl. The water was scalding hot even though the sun had only caught it for an hour. I couldn't revive him with cold water. Forgot to try a kiss. There are others hiding under the lids of bins above their own private pools. We're leaving water in bins, in the shade, where we can. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: frogprince Date: 30 Jan 09 - 05:38 PM Sounds like we'd better not complain about freezing nuts in Michigan...Take care, all you down there; we know those conditions are no joke. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 30 Jan 09 - 05:14 PM Thanks, Sandra. Tandberg's a special kind of bloke. The icy pole (popcicle) reference is to the railway staff, at Melbourne's main train-station, giving out free ice treats to the thousands of people waiting for trains that never came. That was only at first. Now there are no announcements, no treats. Melbournians did get free travel everywhere yesterday but there were still long, long waits in the burning sun. Here we had a power failure for 6 or so hours. The system just ran out. Evening at least, so easier to cope. Our water is pumped to the house so when we have no power we have no running water either. Still and all it's good to be away from the city. It's slowly getting a little bit cooler. Rain rain -- it's the other day now. Come again before our tanks run dry. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 30 Jan 09 - 12:00 AM today's cartoon from one of my favourite cartoonists, who is Melbourne based - Heat wave sandra |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 29 Jan 09 - 10:31 PM Birds and reptiles are prone to getting stuck in melting roads. I once cared for a young Magpie that came to me with tar boots on. A kindly lady had pried her from the middle of the road. It took weeks of rehabilitation after removing the tar with petroleum jelly. Her burns healed eventually and she became a wild bird again. A friend de-tarred a Kangaroo Joey the same year. If this heat worries us imagine how it is for birds and animals. Yesterday it was hotter than predicted 44 degrees of it with howling, searing winds. Today the wind is calmer and from the West. It's only 40. Small miracles very welcome. Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: GUEST,John Gray in Oz Date: 29 Jan 09 - 10:16 PM Several of our main roads here in Melbourne have been closed due to melting bitumen ! JG/FME |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 29 Jan 09 - 04:52 PM Hello Bill. Say hello to my old home town. Ebbie, We're about 3 hours trip South-West of Shepparton. Arnie, I was just thinking about the birds. Yesterday dozens were perched on the rim of a deepish water bowl -- with a rock in the middle. That way the wind was blowing across the water and cooling them a bit. It was like a Peacable Kingdom. Birds that are usually enemies -- and quite aggressive about it -- were shoulder to shoulder. We have as residents: Australian Magpies Mudlarks Willie Wagtails Yellow-rumped Thornbills Brown Thornbills New Holland Honey-eaters Australian Ravens Restless Flycatchers Welcome Swallows Introduced -- House Sparrows, Blackbirds, Goldfinches, and Starlings. Outside of the house-paddock we have: Wedge-tailed Eagles Black and White Chats Nankeen Kestrels Brown Falcons Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos Barn Owls Native Button Quail Sacred Ibis Corellas, Kookaburras, Boobooks, Bronze Cuckoos and Silver-eyes visit at times. Also during Winter we have Wood Ducks, Mountain Ducks, Black Ducks, Black Swans, and Brolgas nearby. Cornwall was "home" to my Great-great grandparents I wonder if I could come home after 160 years? Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Arnie Date: 29 Jan 09 - 11:31 AM It's 3c here in the UK and we have to scrape the frost off our cars in the morning. We have been promised colder weather with the risk of snow next week - would you Australians like to come home now? Joybell, as I'm a bit of a twitcher, could you let me know some of the bird species that visit your pools? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Jan 09 - 03:42 AM Bill - contact joe@mudcat.org for instructions on changing your name. sandra |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Bill S from Adelaide Date: 29 Jan 09 - 03:35 AM Not from Perth any more, now Melbourne (must work out how to change the nic!) but Melbourne at only 44 is hosting visitors coming from Adelaide to escape the heat 46.7. Also remember that the air is hot, we have stiff northerlies so it can be 110 in the shade. 200+ trains cancelled today so a lot of commuters frying on unsheltered platforms. But I can still remember the tar melting in the streets of Gorton and the only time I had serious heatstroke was in Manchester. It is all relative, only 10 degrees above comfortable in the day and a bit more at night. I shouldn't be drinking beer but..... blow it Cheers Bill |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Helen Date: 29 Jan 09 - 01:12 AM I was listening to Emma Ayres on ABC Classic FM one morning this week. She said it was so hot in Melbourne that her motorbike got stuck in the ashphalt which had melted in the heat. She had to get it unstuck before she could ride it. Helen |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Barry Finn Date: 29 Jan 09 - 12:18 AM What will they do when summer hits them? Barry |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Ebbie Date: 28 Jan 09 - 11:44 PM Joybell, a slight segue here - are you near Shepperton by any chance? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: heric Date: 28 Jan 09 - 06:25 PM (I sometimes think I was supposed to have been born in Australia or New Zealand.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 28 Jan 09 - 05:40 PM The West of Aus. is indeed beautiful. But yes, were in Victoria -- west of Melbourne and almost on the South Australian border. Our spot was once part of the biggest volcanic native grassland in the world. The early settlers saw it as perfect sheep country. The grass was up to the horses bellies and it was covered in wildflowers. In a short time it's been replaced by introduced pasture grass from all over to --- I think at last estimate -- 99 point-something %. Anyway we have small patches of it on our roadsides and we are trying to bring some back on our 4 acres. There were some trees along the water-courses and we're putting in lots of those to protect us from the wind. We are on what was always swampland until the rain pattern changed about 13 years ago. Heat-waves used to be follwed by drenching rain. There are Dinosaurs nearby caught in an ancient swamp so we know it's always been wet here. There are old volcanoes dotted about and vents and lava caves. It's interesting country and the birds and animals are fun. If you ever want to visit, heric, you'd be most welcome. We have some lovely rugged country a little North of us and the wild ship-wreck coast to the South. You know I feel a bit better already. It helps to rave a bit. Outside a furnace-hot North wind is blowing at just below gale force but it can't reach us behind the trees. It's 110 degrees out there but the bird-bathing pools are freshly filled and cool. There are low ones for the snakes and lizards and some up high for the birds. Later I'll chase our pet Rooster around with a watering can -- for his own good. Maybe I'll give in and turn on the air conditioner. Wish I could bring the birds in with us. It can't last. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: heric Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:56 PM oh - Western Victoria -- well it still might have been your spot, my memory sucks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: heric Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:54 PM Joy: A long time ago there was a cool thread about people's favorite place in the world, and someone, probably you, in Western Aus linked to a picture of a shallow river in a small ravine with lots of trees. Is that near you? How is that spot doing? Can you sit in the river or is it gone? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Joybell Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:07 PM Just found this thread after posting on the one about snow. I'd hoped that would make me feel cooler. It's not just Melbourne that's suffering. We're in Western Victoria where there's no water supply on tap. We rely on tanks with run-off from the roof. Melbourne is on the sea -- well a bay. It's hotter out here in the bush. It's the wildlife I worry about. We've already pushed them to the brink. I'm sharing our water with the birds and reptiles, Dunarts, Possums, Wallabies -- but in 110 degrees the water becomes scalding hot in an hour. I try not to think about the birds beyond our little oasis. It's already 100 degrees at 8.00 in the morning and there's at least another week of it. Icebergs to here too please. Yesterday if possible. Thanks for listening. Joy without usual cheer. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: heric Date: 28 Jan 09 - 02:16 PM Old people die in that kind of heat (over 30,000 Europeans in the heat wave of 2003.) You need an iceberg from Iceland. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Peace Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:08 PM Took me about a week to sober up. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Peace Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:07 PM Spent a few days in California in that kind of heat. NEVER again. |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:04 PM More people in the Southwest have air conditioning now, but as recently as 25 years ago when I lived in AZ for a couple of years a majority of them had swamp coolers on their roofs. I have a hose end adaptor that is plastic and looks like a 3' rearing snake. It has tiny little nozzles in the top and puts out a fine mist. I suppose those have sold out if you have them there--they can make a shady porch feel downright comfortable and don't use much water at all, if you're also short of H20. SRS |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:43 AM art, not everyone has air-conditioning. I just looked on the Aust Bureau of Statistics site for figures & found that 50% of households in this state have ducted, split system or portable systems - I hadn't realised there were so many! The report doesn't say what temperatures they use. sandra (electric fan user) |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Mr Happy Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:35 AM ..........so not strawberries & cream? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: artbrooks Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:29 AM Sounds like Phoenix in the summer...I try to avoid visiting there after April 1st. Do you set the AC at 19-20C like they do? |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: SINSULL Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:16 AM Other Australian news - apparently you guys tried to knock off the Queen in 1970 with a log on the railroad tracks. In the immortal words of jOhn from hull "Whaat's she going on about now?" |
Subject: RE: BS: Frying eggs in Melbourne From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Jan 09 - 08:07 AM my friends were in Melbourne last week for the tennis - they had booked seats under the shady roof & were still bloody hot. They reported folks on the courts & in the open-air seats were dropping like flies! They decided not to follow their original plan of buying tickets for the next day in the uncovered areas & went touristing & visiting in air-conditioned places! South-east heatwave hottest in 70 years - Organisers of the Australian Open in Melbourne had to interrupt the tournament for the first time today when temperatures reached 41C. The women's singles quarter-final was halted for about 45 minutes and the roof on the Rod Laver Arena was closed, under the tournament's extreme heat policy. Doubles matches on the smallest of the main stadiums were also moved to the covered Hisense Arena. |