Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: FreddyHeadey Date: 16 Apr 18 - 02:30 AM Mobberley to Macclesfield bing maps https://binged.it/2JQGl1M |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 15 Apr 18 - 04:21 PM Mostly your work Freddy - I just listened on phones and tweaked a few words. Mick |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: FreddyHeadey Date: 15 Apr 18 - 04:14 PM ! Thanks Mick. And proper punctuation too. And the abc. :-) |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 15 Apr 18 - 12:07 PM Since this thread has resurfaced, here's my transcription from the record. Fred's words above are mostly right, but have a few minor errors and a few more serious! Rather than post just the changes, I've posted an amended version of Fred's transcription below. Mick X:1 T:The Wizard Of Alderley Edge C: Pete Coe S: Pete Coe D: Pete Coe, album Tall Tailes L:1/4 M:C| Q:1/2=77 K:Eaeo % actually hexatonic Edor/Eaeo E/E/E/|B> B A (G/F/)|zE D/ B,2-|B, B,/B,/ B B|A G E2-|E2 z w:There was a far-mer live in_ Mob-ber-ley_ had a snow white pure bred mare_ B,| E F/G/-G2|B B/A/- A2-| A2 z B/A/|G< G A>F|E3 w:But times were lean_ pri-ces keen__ He must sell her at the fair B,/B,/|B> B A G/F/|E E/D/ B,2-|B, B,/B,/ B B|A G E2-|E2 z w:So he took the path ov-er Al-der-ley Edge_ in teh ear-ly morn-ing light_ B,| E F/G/-G G/A/|B B/A/- A2-| A2 z B/A/|G G/G/ (A/ G) F/|E3|| w:But wait-ing there_ in a cloud of mist__ was a man in his shroud_ of white B,|B< B A> A|B/B/ B2 B|E E F> G|F3 w:From Macc-les-field to Mob-ber-ley iif you have ware to sell F/F/|E> F G A/A/|B< B A2-|A A G G/G/|A< F E2-|E2 z/|] w:Don't you leave the path at The Wiz-ard Inn_ or drink at the Wiz-ard's well_ THE WIZARD OF ALDERLEY EDGE (Pete Coe) There was a farmer lived in Mobberley Had a snow-white, pure-bred mare. But times were lean, prices keen, He must sell her at the fair. So he took the path over Alderley Edge In the early morning light; But waiting there in a cloud of mist Was a man in his shroud of white Chorus: From Macclesfield to Mobberley, If you have wares to sell, Don't you leave the path at the Wizard Inn Or drink at the wizard's well. These words came slow in a voice so low, "Won't you sell to me your mare?" But the farmer said "She's not for sale Till I get to Macclesfield fair". "Well you may stand all day at the fair But not one bid you'll hear For it is my fate that I must wait Though it be for a thousand years". Chorus Now the farmer he was a troubled man As he came into Macclesfield town, For though the mare was much admired No offers were set down. So he returned a bitter man As the moon rose up the hill, And just as he had said that morn, Oh, the wizard was waiting still. Chorus "Now you must sell your mare to me For a payment in pure gold", And he led the farmer and his mare Down a path so dark and cold. And then he passed through some iron gates And through a great rock wall. Like moles they went, nigh double bent, Till they came to the sleepers' hall. Chorus Now the sight that met that farmer's eyes It turned his heart to stone, For full dressed knights, each with one mount, Except for one alone. "This is King Arthur's company, On England's call attend, So fill your purse and leave your mare, On her we do depend" Chorus "Now leave this place, do not return. May your story bring you fame. But those who would seek these iron gates Will search this Edge in vain." Now I was told that old Nell Beck Once found those iron gates; But others say her head's astray, And the march hare is her mate. Chorus Source: Pete Coe, album Tall Tailes |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: FreddyHeadey Date: 15 Apr 18 - 06:12 AM from Tall Tailes (2011) Pete Coe slight variations in the tune from the abc above & several variations in the words (as I hear it) There was a farmer lived in Mobberley Had a snow white pure bred mare But times were lean and prices keen He must sell her at the fair So he took the path over Alderley Edge In the early morning light But waiting there in a cloud of mist was a man in his shroud of white ch : From Macclesfield to Mobberley If you have wares to sell Don't you leave the path at the Wizard Inn Or drink at the wizard's well. His words came slow in a voice so low Won't you sell to me your mare But the farmer said she's not for sale Till I get to Macclesfield fair Well you may stand all day at the fair But not one bid you'll hear For it is my fate that I must wait Though it be for a thousand years ch Now the farmer he was a troubled man As he came into Macclesfield town For though the mare was much admired No offers were set down. So he returned a bitter man As the moon rose up the hill And just as he had said that morn Oh the wizard was waiting still ch Now you must sell your mare to me For a payment in pure gold And he led the farmer and his mare Down a path so dark and cold And then passed through some iron gates And through a great rock wall Like fools they went nigh double bent Till they came to the sleepers' hall ch Now the sight that met the farmer's eyes It turned his heart to stone For full dressed knights each with one mount Except for one alone. This is King Arthur's company on England's call attend So fill your purse and leave your mare On her we do depend ch Now leave this place, do not return May your story bring you fame But those who seek these iron gates Will search this Edge in vain Now I was told that old Nell Beck once found those iron gates But others say her hair is as grey [and?] the march hare is her mate ch END https://www.petecoe.co.uk/discography/?&SingleProduct=5 https://www.discogs.com/fr/Pete-Coe-Tall-Tailes/release/4513971 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ (not Tall Tales) |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Stu Date: 02 Apr 16 - 03:16 AM For fans of Alan Garner, his book Thursbitch captures the spirit and atmosphere of the hills above Macclesfield better than just about anything I've ever read or heard. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,SqueezeMe Date: 02 Apr 16 - 02:38 AM I used to play this one around Sydney while involved in an all too brief musical partnership with the late Gill Rees about 35 years ago. In F# minor if you please! Luckily, I owned an anglo concertina in A/E, so wasn't too bad to play. From memory, I think Gill used a capo on the first fret, and played a lot of open strings which gave the song quite a haunting effect. (Sorry, I'm no guitarist, so I could be talking rot in this last sentence...and it was a long time ago!) Thank you for the thread; brought back good memories. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: FreddyHeadey Date: 30 Mar 16 - 04:56 AM There are a couple of versions of this on Spotify on Taliesin , Emrys Atkinson (YouTube too but n.a. in the UK) And a rather brighter one after an instrumental introduction, by Simon Howarth |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 08 Apr 15 - 03:10 AM Recently recorded (2014?) by The Wheeze & Suck Band in Australia, on their CD, The Macclesfield Dandy. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: YorkshireYankee Date: 29 Nov 11 - 07:43 AM alison -- it was dramatised (as opposed to read) and aired on Saturday 19th November. Unfortunately, that's more than seven days ago, so it is no longer available via the BBC's "Listen Again" feature. However, if you are really keen to hear it, PM me, as I downloaded it (I know, naughty me). It's quite a large file, but I expect we can figure something out... |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Leadfingers Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:22 PM Just listened to the new version - I think I will stick to the 'Old' Tune ! |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: alison Date: 28 Nov 11 - 04:21 PM thanks for the chords - when is it being read on radio 4? slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST Date: 28 Nov 11 - 04:09 AM Saw Pete Coe last night and he was on great form. He sang the Wizard although I didn't recognize any chords with it being on the bouzouki which I don't play. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Leadfingers Date: 21 Nov 11 - 06:14 PM Grant knows ALL the Chords |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Moonzyn Date: 21 Nov 11 - 06:07 PM btw, the guitarist I used to sing this with was Grant Baynham, he probably knows the proper chords |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Moonzyn Date: 21 Nov 11 - 05:24 PM Hi Leadfingers, I play it in the same key as you, though with less chords 'cos I'm a hacker. I don't like the Dm, I think it's definitely a C there. I've just tried it on keyboards and I just use Am & G with just one C where you've got the Dm, ( I sometimes go from Am to A at the end for an "old English ending", but that's just affectation). But what so you expect from a hacker. I used to sing this with a guitarist around Guildford in the mid 70's, but I only learned to play guitar years later after I'd parted company with him! Cheers, Moonzyn |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Leadfingers Date: 19 Nov 11 - 05:00 PM Try this Choed Sequence :- THE WIZARD OF ALDERLEY EDGE by Peter Coe (Am)From Maccles(G)field to (Am)Mobber(G)ley If (Am)you have wares to (E)sell Don't (Am)leave the path at the wizard's (Dm)inn Or (Am)drink at the (E)wizard's (Am)well. From Mobber(G)ley on a (Am)bright morn(G)ing On a (Am)snow white pure bred (E)mare A (Am)farmer rode to Maccles(Dm)field For to (Am)sell her (G)at the (Am)fair |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: C Stuart Cook Date: 19 Nov 11 - 04:33 PM My father baptised me at the Wizards Well as he was by his father. I baptised my eldest son the same and hope he will do the same sometime for his son. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: BTNG Date: 19 Nov 11 - 04:26 PM and this quote from Alan Garner "I don't consciously think of children (when writing)... I do know that children read me more intelligently than adults do." |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: BTNG Date: 19 Nov 11 - 01:22 PM "Who says it's meant for children?????" Both The Weirdstone of Brisingamen and The Moon of Gomrath by Alan Garner were originally published by Collins (The Weirdstone was picked up by the company's head, Sir William Collins, who was on the look out for new fantasy novels following on from the recent commercial and critical success of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings (1954-55) in hardcover and, in paperback, by Puffin Books (the children's wing of Penguin Books) |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Moonzyn Date: 19 Nov 11 - 12:53 PM I had the book read to me at school in 1965. In 1973 I was engaged to a folk guitarist who had a small decorated poster with the words on it and we sang it together in folk clubs in Guildford & thereabouts. We tried to find the Edge that summer (I come from Lancashire) but true to form it eluded us & we gave up! Years later I tried to remember it and being a very basic guitarist myself, played it in Am (Am G C - very basic) Today I listened to The Weird Stone of Brisingumen on Radio 4 and remembered it again. It seems to keep coming up throughout my life, it must be important. Have fun, Moonzyn |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Don Wise Date: 25 Oct 11 - 05:51 AM I just blew the dust off "Open the door and let us in" and picked up my guitar (in tune)- "The Wizard..." is in G minor. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw Date: 25 Oct 11 - 03:43 AM Pete Coe has now re-worked this song, and it appears on his new album of songs for children - Tall Tailes. See it here |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,ian Date: 24 Oct 11 - 08:29 AM Does anyone have a chord sequence for this please. Thanks. Ian I play it on the whistle in Dminor but my guitary mates want to know the chords. This song rocks ! Cheers. Ian |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: alison Date: 01 Nov 01 - 07:32 PM Bernard's MIDI is wonderful, thank you... drop him a line slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,AliUK on the works comp. Date: 01 Nov 01 - 11:47 AM The Fimbulwinter is upon us!! I devoured Alan Garner's books when I was a kid ( still do actually) and can never forget the time I was on my way back from a walking holiday in the Lakes when I took a detour to Alderley Edge to look for the doorway to the cave beneath the edge. i spent an excellent few hours exploring the svart alfar caves and the wizard's stone. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Ed. Date: 01 Nov 01 - 08:59 AM Stigweard, It's ABC notation. You can find out more about it (including software to convert it to standard notation)at the ABC Home Page Ed |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Stu Date: 01 Nov 01 - 08:54 AM Crikey! What's all this B2 E4 stuff? How does this relate to a bouzouki? Any chords or the tune in standard notation? |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,MCP Date: 31 Oct 01 - 07:57 PM Quite right Snuffy - my transcription error - didn't notice (jotted down too quickly. I have heard the tune but not for some time and as I said I'm not absolutely sure about the verse). The 2 instances of 'd>c' might (upon looking at it again) be simply 'dc' also. Mick |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Snuffy Date: 31 Oct 01 - 06:09 PM It sounds better to me if the "Bc D2" at the end of lines 1 & 3 were changed to "Bc d2", but that's only an opinion - I've never heard the tune before. WassaiL! V |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Bernard Date: 31 Oct 01 - 04:51 PM It was the first song that Pete Coe ever wrote, back in 1969. When he appeared at the Open Door Mini Extravaganza on October 21st, he told us that he has just re-worked it, and it will soon be appearing in its new form... more than that he wouldn't say!! If anyone wants a MIDI (with a simple accompaniment), they can email me for it. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: MMario Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:55 PM Thanks again - NWC file ready for Joe. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: MMario Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:44 PM Dang! I messed it up too! never mind. I'll fix it. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: MMario Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:38 PM THANK you! Is this about right with line breaks?
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Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,MCP Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:26 PM Sorry last GUEST was me. Mick |
Subject: Tune Add: Wizard Of Alderley Edge (Peter Coe) From: GUEST Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:09 PM I've only ever heard it in the minor, with a tune something like this. (Can't vouch for the verse, but the chorus is close): Mick X: 1 T:Wizard Of Alderley Edge M:4/4 L:1/8 K:Bm B|f2 f2 e2 d>c|B2 B2 F3 F| B2 B2 Bc D2|c6 zF| B2 B2 d2 e2| f2 f2 e3 e|f2 B2 B2 A2| B6 zB| f2 f2 e2 d>c|B2 B2 F3 F| B2 B2 Bc D2|c6 zc| B3 B d2 e2|f2 f2 e3 e|f2 B2 B2 A2| B6 zB|| f f3 e3 e| ff f4 f2|B2 B2 c2 d2|c6 zc| B2 BB d2 de|f f3 e3 e|f2 BB B A3| B6 z|| |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Harry Basnett Date: 31 Oct 01 - 02:55 PM I wouldn't worry too much about the tune...Pete says he's re-working the whole song...something to do with cashing in on 'Harry Potter' but I think that was meant tongue in cheek...I think.... Harry. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: John J Date: 31 Oct 01 - 04:17 AM I think you mean Arthur Wakefield, Friday nights in the Dog & Partridge. An excellent pint of Robinson's too. John |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Dimple Date: 30 Oct 01 - 07:22 PM Arthur Wakely has recorded the" Wizard", Try the Dog and Partridge pub at Bolington Nr, Macclesfield don't have tel no. |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: John J Date: 30 Oct 01 - 11:47 AM Not too relevant, but I spent sunrise on midsummer morning on Alderley Edge this year. It certainly is a magical place at that time of the morning. I've also been down the Wood Mine, equally magical! John |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: alison Date: 30 Oct 01 - 09:06 AM I could sing it for you.. but I have no keyboard wired up, and my sequencer program is playing up to put a MIDI on...... slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,MMario Date: 30 Oct 01 - 08:50 AM Another try for the tune? |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: alison Date: 24 Jul 01 - 08:25 PM I ahve heard Alan do it as major... but I heard a girl do it as a minor tune... and it sounded great..... may have been the same tune but with minor chords....... it was a long time ago........ slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: 8_Pints Date: 24 Jul 01 - 07:11 PM Alison, I have a copy of the LP mentioned by Alan of Australia, and from memory I don't think the key is a minor one. Have you heard this track yet? If not PM with your address and I'll get a tape to you. Bob vG |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Jul 01 - 06:43 PM I think I spawned the Morthbrood. She certainly acts like it sometimes!!! LTS |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Hawker Date: 24 Jul 01 - 08:10 AM I spent my childhood living in Macclesfield, Cheshire, Alderley Edge is just a few miles out, it is a wonderful place to visit with a view from the edge to die for! There is a well called the wizards well, where you will find carved 'drink of this and take thy fill for the water falls at the wizards will' The Alan Garner book, I cannot recommend enough, it is fantastic, and gives a real good geographical account of the outlying land. The song incidentally was written by Pete Coe Lucy |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: JohnB Date: 24 Jul 01 - 06:48 AM I seem to remember the road that goes up the bloody big hill adjacent to Alderley Edge is called "the Wizard". Great view from there too. JohnB |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Linda Kelly Date: 24 Jul 01 - 06:35 AM My favourite book -I think I'm married to one of the Morthbrood! |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Jul 01 - 02:37 AM Who says it's meant for children????? LTS |
Subject: RE: Wizard of Alderley Edge From: GUEST,Mike Cahill Date: 24 Jul 01 - 02:32 AM In my youth I used to be into canal restoration, and one of the projects that we hhelped with was digging out the sand mines under Alderley Edge Which over the centuaries have been back filled, and silted up. A lot of the stuff mentioned in the song and ledgends are true. The sand mines exist and date back to Bronze age time, they have found deer antlers that were used to dig out the copper ore. There are huge caverns down there. The really spooky thing is that the soft sand stone absorbs sound so you cant hear someone who is 10 or 15 yds away down a passage way. There is a smashing (childrens)book by Alan Garner called "The Wierd Stone of Brisingerman"(spelling ?)Gives you a good feel for the place |
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