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Lyr Add: Candle in the Wind (Elton John) |
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Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Laoise Date: 08 Sep 97 - 07:34 AM Gabh raibh maith agat Shula. I didn't mean to criticise, its just that I like that song and thought that it had exactly the right sentiments. Any song overplayed, however, becomes a pain the the 'tuchus' and I'm sure we'll get sick of this as time goes on. In a way, the two lives, that of Marilyn Monroe and Diana were similar. They were both subjected to huge media persecution and were both "used" by the respective establishments. Interestingly, over here there is speculation that MI5 could have been involved. What does that remind you of? I am un-observantly Jewish living in Belfast. I always thought Yiddish was the best language for producing words which cannot be explained fully in English. Irish gaelic is the same. I'm not sure of the origins of the word 'Skundered' but it has those expressive qualities of Yiddish words. There are also some excellent phrases here "Catch yerself on" meaning wise up, "what about ye" shortened to "'bout ye" as introduced by Alison over in Aussieland means how are you doing. Another phrase I like describes miserly people - "he/she wouldn't give you the steam off her p**s" and for lazy people - "he/she wouldn't walk the length of him/herself". Sorry, I never got that final choir piece as I never got to see the whole service (too busy playing trad). You've got me interested though. Slan go foill Laoise |
Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Shula Date: 08 Sep 97 - 05:27 AM Perhaps what bothers me most is the re-working of a song associated with Marilyn Monroe for the princess. Rather like a hand-me down frock. Even so, would have liked it, right enough, if MORE had been re-written, and LESS had been re-peated. I wanted a closer "fit," but from the response, others were better satisfied than I. Didn't hate it or think it out of place, though. " The King Of Love My Shepherd Is," (my favorite hymn and hymn-tune, despite the fact that I am observantly Jewish), and the Verdi, had me weeping aforehand, and I like to fancy myself something of a cynic! No denying the authenticity of the sentiment, both from Mr. John and from his global audience. Wait a bit, though, and see if when they've done playing it to death, you don't long for a fresher verse or two. Hope I've not given offense. Still badly want to know the words to that final choir piece. Any suggestions? Shula P.S. Dialects being a fascination of mine, always enjoy your postings, esp. the series that introduced, "Skundered" -- as Emily Dickenson would have said: Now, there's a word to lift your hat to! |
Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Laoise Date: 08 Sep 97 - 04:27 AM I'm sorry to disagree here, Shula, but I think that Elton John's rewritten Candle in the Wind was very fitting for this tragic occasion. Like the late Diana, it has always been a favourite song of mine since childhood. It's frightening to think that it should be sung at her funeral but it contained all the right ingredients, nostalgia, tenderness and power. It was extremely well performed - how he didn't break down in the middle of it I will never know. I'm still in tears when I read it. Laoise. |
Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Shula Date: 08 Sep 97 - 04:04 AM Sorry to post three times running. Just wondered if anyone knew the words to the recessional ( sung to the tune of "Danny Boy") that was sung by the boy's choir at the funeral. Liked that better than the Elton John. Thanks, Shula |
Subject: Lyr Add: A PRINCELY DITTY, IN PRAISE OF THE ... From: Shula Date: 07 Sep 97 - 10:20 PM Just came on this while wandering around in the Sixteenth Century Ballads site, http://pbm.com/~lindahl/ballads/ballads.html, thought it apropos:
A PRINCELY DITTY, IN PRAISE OF THE ENGLISH ROSE.
Among the Princely Paragons,
As I abroad was walking,
Cæsar may vant of Victories,
The brauest Lute bring hither,
The sweet Perfumes and Spices,
Then faire and princely flower,
Shula
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Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Shula Date: 07 Sep 97 - 10:03 PM Tim Jacques : Perhaps greater depth requires greater thought, not to say, time, in the composition of a suitable memorial. As to Elton John's contribution, I know he hadn't much time, but I do wish he had started with better material. WHATEVER he sang was sure to have been huge. I'd have wished for something more specific about the princess in the lyrics. Personally, I was put in mind of Ben Jonson's "Have You Seen But a White Lilly Grow?" from F. H. Potter"s "Reliquary of English Song." It embodies the fragility of innocence. Shula
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Subject: RE: Goodbye, England's Rose From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 07 Sep 97 - 06:48 PM Now, if someone will only write a song about Mother Theresa. |
Subject: Lyr Add: CANDLE IN THE WIND (from Elton John) From: Squid Date: 07 Sep 97 - 06:25 PM They say they expect this to pass Bing Crosby's White Christmas to become the best-selling song of all time. CANDLE IN THE WIND, as performed at Westminster Abbey by Elton John:
Goodbye, England's rose; may you ever grow in our hearts.
And it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind:
Loveliness we've lost; these empty days without your smile.
And it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind:
Goodbye, England's rose; may you ever grow in our hearts.
And it seems to me you lived your life like a candle in the wind: |
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