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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 07 May 02 - 11:52 PM Fuck hymn Fuck hymn Fuck hymn Fuck hymn Fuck hymn Fuck HYMN
Within the Digital Trad and recent MC archives can be found this HYMN sung to the tune of Auld Lang Sin.
Just curious....because this IS A MUSICAL THREAD WHY did you elect to call it B.S. ????
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Amos Date: 07 May 02 - 11:49 PM "Raise Your Children Well", Crosby, Stills, Nash And why should there not be humanist-oriented hymns, in praise of the human spirit? It is arguably the only reason we're still around. Worthy of praise if you ask me. Think how dull it would be without us! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Troll Date: 07 May 02 - 11:16 PM "In My Life" The Beatles "Blue Skys" Irving Berlin "Summertime" Gershwin Almost anything by Cole Porter troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Ebbie Date: 07 May 02 - 11:02 PM hahhahah. Well, I never! Your talking about 'love'as opposed to 'love', Jerry, makes me think of a scrap of a song I once sang in front of my scandalized mother. It goes something like 'Do you want to make love, or do you want to fool around?' My mother didn't hear the underlying message which was, 'do you want to enter into a love relationship or do you plan on just fooling around'. Pretty much the same idea as your workshop. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 07 May 02 - 10:54 PM Dear Ebbie: Nah!, I didn't express myself clearly. I should have directed my comments to guest. I get confused when other people respond to a previous message and don't make it clear who they're responding to. The person just before them tends to think it's them. I read your comment as you made it... to the Guest saying that I wasn't trolling. I also didn't think that WYSIWYG was trying to pick a fight. Another Sheesh!!! I don't find anything about this thread offensive. It's just that when a word has one commonly accepted meaning, and you use it to mean something very different, I think that it causes confusion. And I was wondering why Guest chose to ask for songs for an Atheist Hymnal. Just asking...
I can think of a lot of positive songs that have nothing to do with God. (Funny, I always associate You'll Never Walk Alone as very much an implied relationship with God.) I could add (Guest) I Got Plenty Of Nothing, which I've always loved, especially by the Tokens. Or how about Zippidee Doo Dah?
Talking about confusing titles, I did a workshop at a folk festival once titled Love Without Romance. What I meant was songs about love that weren't in the boy/girl, June/spoon style. Like Old Blue (a song that obviously is based on a man's love for his dog.) Most people thought I meant Motel Love, or contemporary "love." Kleenex love. Dispose after using.
It only goes to show. Atheists can be as touchy as Christians. :-)
I enjoy your posts, Ebbie.. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Ebbie Date: 07 May 02 - 10:27 PM Oh, dear. Jerry, my comment about trolling wasn't directed at you. Obviously I didn't make it clear, but I meant to respond to Guest's I'm not biting Jerry ... comment. Sheesh, right back at ya. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 07 May 02 - 10:06 PM No, I wasn't trying to start an argument at all. I guess it comes from my work-life. When people came to me with an idea, I'd ask them questions, just to try to focus their thinking... who is your audience? was always the first one. You've defined that. Why do you want to do it? was another obvious question. Too many good ideas get sidetracked because they aren't thought out early enough in the beginning. Me a troll? Sheesh!!! If you read my message I said that I thought that it was a worthwhile project if it was to lift people's spirits. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Joe Offer Date: 07 May 02 - 09:12 PM Take a look at Song of the Soul, but Cris Williamson. It's one that tugs at the old heartstrings. Holly Near did a great recording of it. You might also look at songs by Pat Humphries - a search for Humphries will turn up quite a few. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Janice in NJ Date: 07 May 02 - 07:08 PM Try Phil Ochs' Canons of Christianity. I would also suggest the 18th century German student song Die Gedanken Sind Frei. If you are unfamiliar with it, click here. Another possibility is English folksong The Vicar of Bray, popularized by the late Ricahrd Dyer-Bennett. And don't forget to include the Pete Seeger - Arlo Guthrie parody of Old Time Religion. Come to think of it, an atheist hymnal is a wonderful idea. I do, however, prefer to call myself a free thinker rather than an atheist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST Date: 07 May 02 - 06:53 PM It's kind of like having a non-christian Christmas LOL! Isn't that the kind of Christmas that the vast majoity of us have? It is an interesting idea though. So far the posts have been 'songs for when you feel bad' Maybe we need more sections. WYSIWYG? Were you trying to incite something? Sure sounded like it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Ebbie Date: 07 May 02 - 06:47 PM No trolling, Guest- I think it's a valid question. Do you have in mind: something like songs to cheer me when I'm blue? Songs of love and acceptance? Songs to make me less fearful of the dark and the uncertain? Songs for when I've returned to the dust? Songs like 'Mockingbird Hill'? Or 'My Blue Heaven'? Songs of love requited? Look up 'hymn'- and I suspect you'll rename the concept. It's kind of like having a non-christian Christmas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 07 May 02 - 06:43 PM I don't think Jerry is offering a fight, and I ain't either, but the thread title invites comment, and people will respond to it as they choose. Mudcat discussions work like that. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,Phil A Date: 07 May 02 - 06:39 PM I'm not biting Jerry ... just the songs, or not, please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 07 May 02 - 06:32 PM A hymn is "A song of praise or thanksgiving." Praising whom? Giving thanks to whom? Why not call it an Atheist Songbook? The word "hymn" is a little confusing. Sounds like you're looking for uplifting, positive songs. A title like Songs To Lift The spirits (with a small "s' is more like what you're talking about. That in itself is a valid reason for gathering songs together. I think you need to explain why you want to do a book, (or is this just an interesting idea?) and what you'd do with it after you had it? Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: greg stephens Date: 07 May 02 - 06:30 PM "How can I keep from singing" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST Date: 07 May 02 - 06:27 PM Another Train by Pete Morton |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,Phil A Date: 07 May 02 - 06:22 PM A Bit more than 'feel good' RichM ... I was looking for something a bit more than that. More like JJD's hair standing up thing. I think ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,RabN Date: 07 May 02 - 06:18 PM I'd have the Flower Duet on it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,JJD Date: 07 May 02 - 06:17 PM How about "The Whole of The Moon?" Makes my hair stand up when the cannon goes off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Atheist Hymnal From: RichM Date: 07 May 02 - 06:16 PM Let me see: add tunes to an atheist hymnal? the thought boggles...I guess you mean "feel good" songs? |
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Subject: Atheist Hymnal From: GUEST,Phil A Date: 07 May 02 - 05:55 PM Looking for tunes to add to my atheist hymnal. They need to be spiritually uplifting in a non-religeous way. This is not meant to bait the religious among us nor an invite to 'put me straight.' Just wondered what you'd add to a list containing tunes and songs like ... Let it be; Bridge over troubled water; Londonderry Air; You'll never walk alone; etc. |
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