BS: Warning LOTR return of the king

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 08:11 PM

I thought he looked like Fozzie Bear after a bad shave......

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Cluin
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 07:24 PM

There's a few more tough chicks in the Silmarillion too. Beren could never have wrested a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown without Luthien.

And the Star Wars series ran out of steam in the 70s. It took the first nose dive when they brought Grover Yoda into it.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: stevetheORC
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 06:13 PM

Im bloody sivelized mate i know how to scoff my food

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 05:58 PM

That orcs a fake - ruining manflesh by cooking it indeed!

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: stevetheORC
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 05:50 PM

It's all propoganda we Orcs is nice'n cuddly. DISAGREE and I'll rip your guts out and fry them with tatties!!

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM

Women are also quite adept sometimes at working more powerful (but subtle) energies, whilst the menfolk run around busting heads, methinks.

I tend to agree that Jar Jar Binks took more than his fair share of criticism, having been the one refreshing character in a really quite tedious and overblown film. Star Wars has lost its soul, I'm afraid, overwhelmed by special effects and a dearth of good script writing.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: NicoleC
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM

Ya'll are obviously forgetting Shelob. Now SHE is a bad Tolkein babe!

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 05:02 PM

What this Ring Cycle really needed was Brunnhilde. yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 04:48 PM

Peter T said he "was glad to hear a warrior princess gets to make her mark, presumably chopping orcs into bits."

Furgoonessakes! You REALLY can't have read The Return of the King!
She was in on the slaying of the head Nazgul!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 03:12 PM

I'm with you McGrath.... Jar Jar was the only character who was a CHARACTER in that boring movie. I was sorry they cut him out of the 2nd film. All the other charcters were cardboard stereotypes with a ton of bad acting to match a ridiculously mundane story. I fail to see the spectacle of Star Wars. Talk about being suckered in by hype!

I thought both the LOTR books and films provide great entertainment, but I wouldn't bother to hold one up to the other. Each has its own merits and those folks who whine about changes in characters need to get a life!

Sorry, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this moring. Unfortunately it was a solid wall. Ouch!

Ron

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 02:36 PM

Myself I quite liked Jar Jar Binks, and thought the hoohah about the character cynical nonsense.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 02:26 PM

Oh! Ouch! Peter!!! Look, I can recommend a good therapist. Do you have trouble seeing brilliance in William Shatner too? Do you? I thought so. Get help, Peter! Get help now. I am a friend and I want only what is good for you.

- lH

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Beccy
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 02:26 PM

That was a hoot! I thought we were original in our LOTR/Star Wars confusion. We made Jedi Robes for our little ones (at their request) for Christmas. My eldest was wearing his and looking very sinister. When I asked what he was pretending, he said, "Mom, I'm a Nazgul with a light saber who is going to fight Darth Vader and Frodo. But not Bilbo- cause he found the one ring of power."

Did ya'll hear what the actor who did Jar Jar's voice said when asked how he felt about being the most hated Star Wars character of all time? He said, "Well, here's how I feel about it. I was in Star Wars and you weren't."

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 02:07 PM

Well, I must confess I have forgotten what happened in Volume 3, glad to hear a warrior princess gets to make her mark, presumably chopping orcs into bits. The books got so boring and confusing that I must have missed that part.

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 02:01 PM

It appears you never made it to the third volume Peter.

I read somewhere that Tolkien used to read bits of the work in progress to his children, and Eowyn was to some extent his response to his daughter's complaining that the women didn't get to do much.

Books are an expression of the experience of the people who write them. For Tolkien the key experience was probably the Western Front. There weren't any women fighting in the trenches. There were women in the war, but in the field hospitals and so forth. That's reflected in the way things happen in the Lord of the Rings.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 01:51 PM

Peter, my lad, you have lost your bearings utterly! Ha! Ha! Go view Tomb Raider or some such schlock like that if you want to see women who "take charge". You're a victim of some hideous after-effect of late 20th century marketing.

Jar-Jaromir is such a brilliant comment on commercial film-making that I am rendered speechless! Well, almost...

Forget that I said that.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 12:20 PM

Don't forget that the Morgul king cannor die by hand of man, Peter!

God, I am turning into an anorak...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 12:07 PM

You mean the blond one that sits around and waits for her man to return, as opposed to the blackhaired one that sits around and waits for the same man to return? yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 12:00 PM

You want a woman that does something? Watch out for Eowyn, Theoden's niece.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 09:57 AM

Brilliant, but they could certainly use a couple of new characters, i.e. women who get to actually do something except wait for their man to return. yours, Peter T. (P.S. I think that the films are superior to the books)

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Cllr
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 08:06 AM

Thank you Mcgrath you are a gentlemanCllr

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 08:03 AM

Here y'are

Subject: RE: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Cllr
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 07:55 AM

http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/jaromir.html

Damn could someone turn this link into a blue clicky I seem to have failed on my saving throw.Cllr

Subject: BS: Warning LOTR return of the king
From: Cllr
Date: 11 Jan 03 - 07:54 AM

http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/jaromir.html
Heads up for fan of LOTR
Cllr