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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Sep 11 - 05:13 PM It also matters if you have a conscience or a brain. There are people here in the UK saying that after Blair/Brown and the current frauds they cannot take a political choice. All that does is give the hucksters a better chance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 21 Sep 11 - 12:34 PM I can remember having conversations like this with marxists in 1979. They said it made no difference who won the election. Tory or Labour, they said, like a choice between a dose of the pox and a dose of the clap.... Good old Mrs Thatcher proved them wrong however, she proved there WERE definitely differences. Its okay saying it makes no difference if you're in a position where it doesn't make all that much difference. But if you're at the bottom of the pile - believe you me, it matters who wins elections. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 21 Sep 11 - 05:25 AM Well said, Ake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 21 Sep 11 - 03:07 AM I dont think it matters to much who wins what Al, or even the result in 2012.....What is important, is that our respective electorate start to understand what has happened to us economically, why it had to happen, how there is no painless answer and especially why there is no answer at all without systemic change. Unless we are prepared to write off a couple of generations of young people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 20 Sep 11 - 07:55 PM Well Ralph certainly has an eye for the winners.....never known to be wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 20 Sep 11 - 05:07 PM Cold enough to freeze a witch's tit? I can't understand any other reason... did I miss sommat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 20 Sep 11 - 03:35 AM In Scotland, last winter was thecoldest in living memory, in the west, we had temperatures of minus 20......the coldest I remember was minus 12. Getting back to the thread...Nader praises Sarah! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 19 Sep 11 - 03:10 PM I agree- I was wrong. Somehow and where I got the one-half figure. In addition, I'm wrong about his heritage- he is part Yup'ik, not Inuit. Distinct geographical, racial, cultural and historical difference. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 19 Sep 11 - 01:55 PM "////Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way.//// Actually, I do." josepp... Can you prove it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 19 Sep 11 - 01:40 PM I say paramecium you Sarah Palin... let's call the whole thing off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 19 Sep 11 - 10:18 AM Ake, get real. She reads the words. There is NO way she actually wrote them. She'd have contradicted herself in the first part of the speech. It's true that she makes Bush seem absolutely erudite, but sayin' a paramecium is brighter than an amoeba really ain't sayin' much. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 19 Sep 11 - 06:24 AM Her party wrote more trillion dollar thankyou notes than anyone else. Starting wars in countries no one gives a shit about to say thankyou to the armaments industry. Add to that a lousy record on human rights, and promisory notes to every right wing religious nut on the planet - you've got the reason she needs hitting with every rotten kipper you can throw at her. Good luck with it, for the sake of your country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 19 Sep 11 - 05:21 AM Thanks to "ringer" for posting this on the "conservative" thread Sarah totally "gets it" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:29 PM ////Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way.//// Actually, I do. But, as I said, I wasn't attacking for it--just stating a fact. Far be it from me to attack someone for preferring to marry people of their own racial or cultural background. I'd be attacking an awful lot of people in this world. And no, Todd Palin in Inuit garb would only make me laugh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:26 PM So Todd Palin is 1/8 Alaskan native then. That seems more reasonable. If he was half, why doesn't ANY part of that heritage show up? You'd see...something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Don Firth Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM Todd Palin His father, a native of Seattle, Washington, is a former general manager of Matanuska Electrical Association. His mother, a former secretary of the Alaska Federation of Natives, is one-quarter Yup'ik, and his maternal grandmother, Helena (Bartman) Andree, is a member of the Curyung tribe. His paternal grandfather, Frederick William Palin, was born in Hartney, Manitoba, Canada in February 1905. In 1982, Palin graduated from Wasilla High School, which is the same alma mater of his wife and their eldest two children, son Track and daughter Bristol. He has taken some college courses but does not have a degree. Palin was a union member and belonged to the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union (United Steelworkers). For eighteen years, he worked for BP in the North Slope oil fields of Alaska. In 2007, in order to avoid a conflict of interest that related to his wife's position as governor, he took a leave[12] from his job as production supervisor, when his employer became involved in natural gas pipeline negotiations with his wife's administration. Seven months later, because the family needed more income, Todd returned to BP. In order to avoid potential conflict of interest, this time, he accepted a non-management position as a production operator. He resigned from his job on September 18, 2009, with the stated reason as a desire to spend more time with his family. He is also a commercial salmon fisherman at Bristol Bay on the Nushugak River.Info easily found by Googling. I'd be considerably more interested in looking into the "potential conflict of interest" thing than I am in Todd Palin's lineage. Hell, I'm half Scottish, half Swedish. Some people find that kinda weird (I'm always torn between the haggis and the lutefisk*). *Lutefisk = the piece of Cod that passeth all understanding. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:23 PM Good God? You don't even know if she feels that way. Seriously jo, you need to evaluate your previous posts. That's simply advice and not meant to be nasty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Sep 11 - 05:45 PM Tom Paxton does it again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Stringsinger Date: 18 Sep 11 - 05:43 PM You can hear Tom Paxton's great song on YouTube. "First she was for the bridge to nowhere then she wasn't".................. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 03:08 PM josepp, you say that Todd Palin doesn't *look* Eskimo. Put him in traditional Inuit garb and you might possibly change your opinion. As someone has said, you are titled to your own opinions and biases, but not to your own *facts.* So far as I can tell, your *facts* were born in your own head. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:22 PM It is not a worse thing to say than she cheated. Good god, I have no problem with her feeling that way. She has a right to feel that way. She simply isn't the type. But the bottom line is, the book is probably a trick and I urge people not to believe anything in it until an independent and impartial source can prove it. After all, if it was written about you, that's what you would ask of people, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 18 Sep 11 - 01:45 PM Only white? That is a far worse thing to say about her than saying she cheated. And, obviously unfounded... say, isn't that libel? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 01:36 PM ////sheeeeeeesh Just how do you come by this knowledge? She has three children with her husband, who is half Eskimo.//// Does he look Eskimo? No. There goes your theory. ////(Does that make Todd Palin 'Eskimo'? Obama is called Black.)//// Depends on what you look like--bottom line. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:25 PM "To me, news of a publicity-hound, corporate shill like Palin should only be carried in the NE and like publications." With you 100% on that, Gillymor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:05 PM Hmmmmm Last night I wrote that Palin has *three* children with her husband. Don't know where that came from. There are *five*. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 18 Sep 11 - 09:21 AM 999, I was just passing along a joke told to me by a self-described "Nubian Princess" but thanks for relating that old saw, I was unfamiliar with it. To me, news of a publicity-hound, corporate shill like Palin should only be carried in the NE and like publications. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 18 Sep 11 - 06:01 AM Well the media (liberal and otherwise) trashed Princess Diana's account of her marriage told to Andrew Morton. Some journo's actually called Princess Dianne insane and deluded. All turned out to be true though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 18 Sep 11 - 02:34 AM "She's the kind of white woman who would never sleep with any man that wasn't white. It would never occur to her to do otherwise. She only finds white men attractive and the rest are scarcely human as far as she is concerned." sheeeeeeesh Just how do you come by this knowledge? She has three children with her husband, who is half Eskimo. (Does that make Todd Palin 'Eskimo'? Obama is called Black.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:22 AM I think certain people on the 'left' who still feel compelled to focus in on Sarah Palin, at this point..must have a 'Jones' for her!..Maybe they keep thinking everyone else, like themselves, is going to vote for her with their 'little brains'!.....and it terrifies them!.......(because they 'understand'). Smirking, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:16 AM McGinnis has already trashed his cred with this book which has been shredded by several "liberal media" outlets including the NYT. I haven't read it but from what I understand it has few if any footnotes and is therefore all hearsay--if true, that's not anything a writer would put out if he were interested in his reputation. If anything in it were true and provable then why would NYT trash it? Doesn't make sense. NYT learned its lesson with Judith Miller and Jason Blair--another writer so interested in his rep that he blatantly made up stories and then laughed and bragged when they were exposed as lies even though it meant his career was over. I'll guarantee the stuff about her having sex with a black basketball player is false. She's not the type. She's the kind of white woman who would never sleep with any man that wasn't white. It would never occur to her to do otherwise. She only finds white men attractive and the rest are scarcely human as far as she is concerned. But it's precisely the juicy kind of tidbit that rightwing spin doctors would put in the book hoping it would stir up prurient ideas in liberal minds. Other stuff in the book might be true, but they're going to make sure the stuff that really stands out most and titillates liberal sex fantasies overshadows it and gets all the attention so they can then expose it as false which will then destroy all interest in anything else that appears in that book so that even when the true stuff in it is brought to light, the public will go "YAWN! It's a dead issue!" It's worked before and it will work again but only if the "liberal media" have a field day with it. Well, they did but not in the way the RW kooks had hoped. They're not about to be taken in twice and they are wise to think that way. They are right to try and suppress the book. It needs to be investigated and whatever in it that's true then exposed to the public BEFORE this book is ever seen. Not hard to imagine why they feel this way if the book has nothing provable in it and it obviously doesn't or it wouldn't have been received so badly by a media that loves to put this woman on the spot. They know a rat when they smell it and so do I. Do you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,Ebbie Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:52 PM Writers do not necessarily have ethics but *all* of them are concerned about their reputations. Does josepp truly think that McGinnis would risk his? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:09 PM Sorry... I must be sleepy tis late at night... I read that twice and still can't make any sense of it. Maybe tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 17 Sep 11 - 03:31 PM ////Trick? But, as I stated above, she could sue his ass off.//// Not if all this was agreed on beforehand. ////Now, my comment on him being paid to do it... how would he get around the IRS? Swiss bank account or elsewhere?//// He could have accepted gifts. He could have accepted a pat on the ass. ////And, why would he need more money?//// He doesn't necessarily need anything. He's a shill in a dirty tricks campaign for the same reason other people become shills--he believes in what he's doing. ////He's got money to burn from previous work. So, what's the motive?/// The last time a "liberal journalilst" fell for a dirty trick was Dan Rather when he bought those phony miltary documents about Bush. Everything in them was true but the documents themselves were bogus and easy to debunk as forgeries. Rather believed them because he knew the info in them was true. He was tricked. It ruined his career and killed any interest in the highly questionable version Bush handed the world wabout his military service--it got him sympathy and therefore votes. Sarah Palin no doubt has many dark secrets and all are in that book along with complete rubbish. But into the book and the rubbish will be exposed as false and will completely kill any interest in ANY of the info in the book. It worked once, no reason it wouldn't work again if fools buy into it. Sound like motive enough? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Sep 11 - 02:42 PM As I said earlier, the whole thing is not worth anybody's time. She's yesterday's girl. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,LOL Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:54 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:25 PM Trick? But, as I stated above, she could sue his ass off. Now, my comment on him being paid to do it... how would he get around the IRS? Swiss bank account or elsewhere? And, why would he need more money? He's got money to burn from previous work. So, what's the motive? Can you be jailed in the US for libel? or just sued for damages? Hehehehee... defamation of character might be difficult to prove... ya gotta have it first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,josepp Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:11 PM I wouldn't be so quick to buy into this stuff. I smell another rightwing trick--pay someone to write a nasty tell-all, watch her haters buy into it and then shred all the "evidence" in the book and expose it for fakery. I think the "liberal media" has been right to trash this book. I don't trust it. It's a trick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Sep 11 - 09:58 AM Naw, gilly. You likely don't recall the old saw: "In the north they don't care how close you get as long as you don't get too big. In the south they don't care how big you get as long as you don't get too close." The real story is not with whom she slept--because basically that's no one's business. The real story's that there IS a god and Palin has finally got some of what she's been dishing out coming back to bite her. I think it's about time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 17 Sep 11 - 08:54 AM Heck, she was just doing was just doing what all republicans do, screwing black men. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Bobert Date: 16 Sep 11 - 10:09 PM Heck, the Queen of PR oughtta just pose for Playboy and have all the attention she craves... I'd buy a copy... For the articles, of course... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:43 PM Yes I think maybe its a hunting rifle with telescopic sights. You're right. I still think she's crazy. WHAT can the Republicans be thinking of, choosing someone like her to be Governor of a State? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 16 Sep 11 - 06:52 PM Sad shit Don. Very sad. On SO many levels. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Sep 11 - 06:38 PM Sarah Palin complained that Tina Fey on "Saturday Night Live" exploited her and tried to make her look ridiculous. Tina Fey said that one of the very easy things about doing a take-off on Sarah Palin is that she, Tina Fey, didn't have to write a routine. She just memorized a couple of Sarah Palin's speeches and recites them verbatim. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: gnu Date: 16 Sep 11 - 02:09 PM "who poses in a bikini with combat rifle" Wellll... it ain't a combat rifle but I kinda see yer point. I'll say it again... my kinda gal but not much better suited for employment other than sloppin joe at Tim's. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 16 Sep 11 - 11:22 AM "forget the petty gripes and see the bigger picture." Just what the world needs. Jaysus, Ake, ya know? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Wesley S Date: 16 Sep 11 - 07:06 AM "I cant believe you folks cannot see the qualities that people like Mrs Palin possess...." Actually - we do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Sep 11 - 04:00 AM Interesting Ake....! I'm surprised you didn't twig that being a left winger sort of implied there is an active right wing. And being a member of the left wing - well it was almost a definition of 'divisive'. As for the other stuff .....well you were never all that keen on the two main parties anyway. Why you think America has missed out not being run by a coke sniffing dingbat, who poses in a bikini with combat rifle and whose family spend their leisure hours playing with electric tazer guns - well that one beats me. I think the world came uncomfortably close to being run by a halfwit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: akenaton Date: 16 Sep 11 - 03:23 AM Well, I think if Sarah decides not to run, America will have lost a real chance to save itself from the disaster waiting down the road. In the UK, the political parties have degenerated into squabbling factions....none of them have any idea how to address the economic mess which envelopes the "developed" West. Politics simply cannot react to what has happened, their system has been shown as worthless.....a sham. Ron...a good commentator on US politics is right, what is needed is passion and inspiration,for our problems can only be mitigated by us as individuals.....this is the endgame for the West and we need a leader who will tell us that only we ourselves can dig our way out of the hole that we all have made. Over the past few years, I've re-evaluated my left wing beliefs and found that they have become too complicated and too devisive,we need unity and cohesion over issues like our survival, rather than all the petty squabbling we have seen from politicians determined to keep a failed system in power. I cant believe you folks cannot see the qualities that people like Mrs Palin possess....forget the petty gripes and see the bigger picture. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:29 PM No, thank you... That was one that I will "borrow" from time to time... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin (all around my brain..) From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM Thanks, Bobster. |
