BS: open mike in hospital

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Bee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:46 PM

I can just see those rat mummies, with their little tiny bottles of green VitK pills to hand around to the ratlings, and the old rat waving a bottle of VitK Fortified Broccoli Beer... "HIC.... darlin' it's for the Warfarin, that's all...."

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Gizmo
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:38 PM

Glad your home too.

I hope you recover well, and avoid vit K because it reverses the effects of warfarin.

This was discovered by rat catchers, when it turned out it wasn't doing the job, and it turned out the ratsgot smart and found a way of curing themselves against warfarin. Mice were a bit slower on the uptake however.

This could of course be urban legend bandied around by the rat catchers, but the basis works - vit K is to be avoided.

Glad you're on the mend Laurel.

Nicci

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:07 PM

Good news on being home and thanks for the history lesson.:-)

Wordsmith, you're most welcome. They have swabs for bloody noses, too.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:03 PM

Just saw this--glad you're better!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Wordsmith
Date: 12 Mar 07 - 12:35 AM

Glad to hear you're home safe and sound. Thanks for the history of Warfarin, openmike, and also the link to that spray, katlaughing.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: bobad
Date: 11 Mar 07 - 09:36 PM

Watch what you eat and keep an eye on your PT times.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 11 Mar 07 - 09:13 PM

GET WELL QUICK!~ KID!!

Sincerely in my prayers,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Mar 07 - 09:05 PM

You can't beat being back at home!

And thanks for the info on Warfarin!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:51 AM

yes i may need to lay in a supply of styptic pencil...
and similar....

and here is your trivia question for the day..
where does WARFARIN get it's name?
answer:















Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation (W.A.R.F.)

The Discovery of Warfarin
One snowy morning in February, 1933, Ed Carlson, a farmer from Deer Park, Wisconsin, came into Karl Paul Link's laboratory carrying a milk-can full of blood that refused to coagulate. Outside he had a small heap of spoiled sweet clover hay and a dead heifer freezing in the back of his truck.

Studies on the factor in spoiled sweet clover hay that killed cattle by hemorrhaging were already well underway on the UW-Madison campus in 1933. R.A. Brink and W.K. Smith in the genetics department had been trying to breed a strain of clover free of the factor's precursor for several years, and efforts to isolate it were underway in Link's laboratory. But Link was an emotional man and, for him, the story of Warfarin really began with Ed Carlson's visit.


The first paper describing the concentration of the hemorrhagic factor appeared in the October, 1940, issue of the Journal of Biological Chemistry. "It was a modest paper," Link recalled. "My rule is, never overstate your case in print. It's better to understate it and let the facts speak for themselves."

In successive papers the facts did so eloquently. In 1941, Link and Harold Campbell reported the isolation of dicumarol, the first of the oral anticoagulants now widely used in surgery and the treatment of circulatory disorders. At the same time, Link was becoming convinced that the anticoagulants being isolated and synthesized in this laboratory might also be useful as rodenticides.

"From the beginning," he said, "I had an intuitive feeling that this might be a good thing. A pretty bad thing for rats, but a good thing for humans. But the idea didn't come overnight. It came into my head and the heads of everyone in the lab over a period of years."

Again, the accumulating facts spoke for themselves, and in 1948 Link came to WARF's director Ward Ross with the suggestion that the foundation patent, as a rodenticide, the coumarin derivative he later named Warfarin.

Why did Link turn over his patents to WARF?

"Well, they couldn't have been developed without the foundation," he said. "I couldn't have done it myself and I never thought of trying."

"And I'm a loyal Wisconsin man," he added. "After all, I went to school here. I came in as a freshman in 1917 and I got all my degrees here. In a broad sense, I wanted to do something for the university."

-- From WARF: Fifty Years, edited by William R. Jordan, III

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 07 - 12:24 AM

Whoo-Hoo! Glad to hear you are HOME. Isn't that a wonderful feeling?! There's a great product to have on hand when taking coumadin (yes, Bee, same thing as warfarin/rat poison:-). It's a spray-on powder which stops bleeding almost immediately. Here's a LINK, so you know what to look for. I think most drugstores sell it.

Take care,

luvyakat

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 11:38 PM

Glad to hear you're home! It takes a hospital visit to really appreciate home, doesn't it.

Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Janie
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 11:18 PM

Welcome home!

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Bee
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 11:15 PM

Cool! Home and free, and with the added satisfaction of knowing any rat what bites ya will be pizened by the coumadin (or is it the same as Warfarin? Me mum takes so many pills...)!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 08:40 PM

Hey!! I've been out of town, and not spending much time here. I seem to have missed the whole magilla, but I'm glad that you are in and out again ok. Take care!!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike now home
From: open mike
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 12:13 PM

I made it home safe and sound
the daffodills are blooming
and i am about to have my
first cup of fresh ground
coffee in 1 1/2 weeks!@

i plan to stay away from
sharp objects...the coumidin
has kicked in...but i am
alive, and intend to stay
that way!

thanks for all good wishes.

Laurel

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM

Take care, seriously!

Get better soon, don't lie down flat on the bed, rest, and keep all friends with lurgy (colds etc) away from you!

Best wishes, get better soon...

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 07:33 AM

when you have to be in hospital, it is a bonus to have a laptop & access to the whole world.

quoting my favourite card "Get well soon, you'll feel better"

best wishes from this side of the pond.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 01:45 AM

there is a deal about vitimain K
which is found in leafy greens
(brocolli kale parsley
which reacts with the blood thinner

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Deckman
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 04:44 PM

Maybe they put brocolli and kale on your plate as a JOKE? Bob (wait a minute ... aren't those veggies, or have they changed that now)

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: skarpi
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 04:21 PM

Well my friend I hope you get well soon , what you have is NO
joke , rest well and I will send you thoughts and a hug on its way
over the Atlantic
uuuh it might take a while to be there but .........


All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 01:10 PM

i am still in here
and i think i get to bust out in a couple of days
whenever my blood levels reach the right place.

the kitchen here does not understand vegetarians

and they keep putting brocolli and kale on my plate

oh well as the grateful dead song says: I Will Surive!!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM

Gosh, that's a bit drastic! Positive thoughts winging their way to you. Keep us informed.

Luv
Rhiannon and Mick

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 07:46 AM

So, can you go home yet? When?

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Wordsmith
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 03:53 AM

Sorry to hear you're ill, but recuperating nicely by the sound of it. It must be a pretty good hospital to recognize a pulmonary embolism so quickly. You are very lucky. You've also gotten very good advice in this thread. I'm sure you can request to talk to the dieticians before you leave the hospital for guidelines as well as your pharmacist and doctors about interactions and foods. Write down any questions you might have as they arise or you may forget them. Realize you may bleed easier so avoid risky behavior, too. No vigorous teeth brushing, etc. Don't worry, though, you'll adjust. You are very lucky! Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: GUEST,neighmond
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 02:05 AM

Lord, you better behave. I sure as hell don't want to be singing Give Me the Roses (while I live) if you aint alive to give the roses! Onrayness!

Pax Vobiscum

Chaz

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 01:09 AM

So glad they caught it and dealt with it, open mike! Sending all my best to you. I'll watch this thread for further news.

Chanteyranger

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Mudlark
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 12:20 AM

Good grief, Laurel! So sorry to hear you're in hospital, but TG you caught problem in time. Sending lots of good vibes and healing thoughts, and an open invite to visit. Power on here and no snow. It's springtime in the lowlands...sun, warmth, and the frogs are singing from the river.   Love, Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 12:23 PM

Sorry, the news was slow to reach me.

As boring as convelesing can be you have to admit that dodging; a bullet, lightning bolt, blood clot - is very exhilerating.

You are one of the real good guys (not like the rest of those mudcat posers ;)

We all need you to get up and at 'em real soon.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Hollowfox
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 10:54 AM

Good thoughts now $#@!-reduction candle series to start when I get home. You've got a great kid, loaning the laptop. (Mine probably would if they had to, and I threatened to pull it from their cold, stiff fingers if they didn't loan it to me. *g*) It shows you're a Good Mom. As for the jokes, perhaps you could set up, er, an open mike for the staff sometime.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Marion
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 02:27 AM

Hello Laurel, and I'm sorry to hear about this. The PE must have been frightening.

So this nurse gets off work and goes to the bank to deposit her paycheque. When she needs to sign it, she reaches into her purse, and pulls out a thermometer. "Oh no" she says... "some asshole's got my pen!"

Marion

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Partridge
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 01:40 AM

Get well soon Laurel,

love

Pat xx

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Cruiser
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 03:54 PM

Hi Laurel,

I do not know many jokes, however I will say that most men appreciate a good, healthy set of lungs on a woman so get those back in shape and in fine form very soon.

Good luck Lass…

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Miken
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 03:39 PM

Hi Laurel. Just got home to bob's E-mail. Am thinking good stuff for you and hope you get better and out as soon as possible,and that you have good folks close by at home. As said above, don't let (us) medical folks get you down! :.)
Mike

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 06:39 AM

Good wishes sent from Yorkshire. Years ago I had a DVT and I haven't had any problems since.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:49 AM

Or a melodeon....

Or is that lucky for everyone else?!

Hope you continue to improve dear, ever thought of taking up cross stitch? I find it very theraputic - especially the bundling it up and throwing it across the ward when it goes wrong!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Peace
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:08 AM

Lucky for you it's not a banjo.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:00 AM

Try to get the I.V. nurse
to arrange your tubes and
lines to facilitate mandolin
picking--no,not on that arm,
no not in that hand, please
move the tape so i can bend
my wrist...

i promised a concert if it
worked right, and so they
fixed me up!

ahhh---music therapy!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:19 PM

I'm glad you have your laptop. Feel free to complain all you want- that's when we'll know that you're rapidly getting better.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:05 PM

During your "spa week" I sure hope that they don't have a fire alarm sound! I can just see you running down the hall. tubes and bottles trailing, and yelling for the truck to get started! SHEEEEUH! Bob

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: leeneia
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 08:58 PM

Best wishes, and I'm glad you got to the hospital in time.

As for the long term, there are worse things than having to do without broccoli, cauliflower and spinach.

Or was Spaw just trying to cheer you up?

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM

this could be habit forming

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:44 PM

Sending good healing wishes your way- I'm glad you've got your mandolin and your laptop! Think of it as a spa week- lots of pampering and attention, and you can play and cruise the web all you want!

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Alba
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:44 PM

Laurel ma Dear.
Och that was a bit of fright for you... and us
You're in the right place for now...honest.
Heal well and keep us up to date with what's happening.
I am holding you in my Heart and in my thoughts.
Loads of Positive stuff and Love:)
Judi x

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: open mike
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:38 PM

thanks my friends...
it is hard to jsut sit here.
and harder yet to think about
going back to my little cabin in the woods
where last i was there,
the power and phone were out.

no doubt those things are fixed by now
and perhaps some of the snow is melted.


ok--med time and vitals--see you later

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 11:13 AM

Laurel I'm not sure a mandolin in hospital is a good thing. I remember my Doc saying, "If you pick it, it'll never get better"

Go get better quick or else.
Giok (((((((L)))))))

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 11:01 AM

Elmer Fudd, gotta get Anna Pigeon outta her latest scrape, first!**bg**

Laurel, how's your morning? Better and freer of pain, I hope.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:22 AM

Doctor / Nurse Jokes ?? DONT Tempt me !! Though I could PM you one or two ! Good Vibes from here Laurel !

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: gnu
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 06:29 AM

Laurel! Follow all those orders! And get well soon.

Thoughts and prayers.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: jacqui.c
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:40 AM

That was some shock! Take care of yourself Laurel, you know that your friends on the 'Cat will be pulling for you.

Problem is, hospitals are no place to be when you're sick - t0o much noise and dreadfull food most of the time.

Where will you be going when they let you loose? I hope that you have someone to keep an eye on you then - I know that your home is quite isolated.

Subject: RE: BS: open mike in hospital
From: Black Beauty
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:29 AM

So sorry to hear you were unwell Mike. Get better soon.

Love

Charlotte