Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Dave Hanson Date: 09 Feb 06 - 02:27 AM No way will this lily livered government of ours send Hook Bloke to the USA, in case they might be nasty to him. The BNP only attracts thickos and morons but there are a lot of them out there. eric |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: jacqui.c Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:45 PM My understanding of this is that this guy has been living off benefits for both himself and his family since he first got to the UK. In the meantime he has been openly preaching hatred and dissent against the people of the west, including his hosts, and has been linked to known terrorists. He was banned from his local mosque by his own people because they did not agree with the message that he was putting across and he then began preaching in the street where he could be heard by anyone who cared to listen and you can bet that included the security agencies. I doubt that there was any need to set him up on false charges. There is such a thing as biting the hand that feeds you. I voiced the same opinion as Big Phil last night. I hate the BNP and all it stands for but I can see the attraction for some people. To watch a man like this effectively try to ignite uprising against his host country whilst living off that country makes me want to spit, particularly when the government are too lily livered to put a stop to it. What's the betting that they will not agree to extradition when he gets out because he might face the death penalty in the USA? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: CarolC Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:44 PM But do your own torturing, ok, Big Phil? I think we in the US are doing more than enough already. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:27 PM Then have SAS find the instigators and deal with them. Handling people who threaten you as though they have rights is a bunch of bullshit, IMO. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Big Phil Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:24 PM There are more and more idiots finding themselves thinking like the BNP lot, if our ethnic friends carry on as they did at the weekend, it is the best recruiting sergeant the BNP could ever have wished for. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:21 PM The French are up to their arses in alligators. ANYthing they can do to take attention away from their own difficulties is a blessing for them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Big Phil Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:19 PM Was on the news tonight, even some of the french government have been calling our Capital city LONDANISTAN. Makes you proud to be BRITISH doesn't it.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:15 PM With who? Idiots? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Big Phil Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:14 PM Is it any wonder the BNP is gaining more credibility daily. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Big Phil Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:12 PM We did not charge him before because we are a multicultural society and we are that politicaly correct now, no one DARED to charge him, its only the publics anger that has made these Numptys charge him at last. Blair, the copper, would rather have had him round for tea I suspect than arrest him. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Big Phil Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:03 PM Yanks are having him next. gets 7 years, but only serves 18 months. Still the faster we ship him to the USA the better. Wonder how he will be treated there, might be shipped out again on one of the holiday flights, the ones where you are tortured at the other end, Hopefully. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Teribus Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:43 PM No need for us, or Alan to worry. Out in eighteen months with a guaranteed free trip to the US of A - I hope. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:00 PM He should do the world a favour and die quietly. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Shanghaiceltic Date: 08 Feb 06 - 04:58 PM Wonder if they will de-hook him when he arrives at his prison? Nasty things hooks...but I guess there will be a few people who will say that de-hooking the man is to dissable him..maybe they will give him a rubber hook. The man was guilty of inciting hatred, he made use of a lberal countries laws to stay free for a long time. He was tried in a court of law with a jury and found guilty. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 03:16 PM Cigarette tycoon? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: The Shambles Date: 08 Feb 06 - 03:14 PM I think he must have been named after a 'Carry On' film. He was born Mostafa Kamel..........I kid you not. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: The Shambles Date: 08 Feb 06 - 12:40 PM It is clear from this conviction that there was no need for the further legislation that Mr Blair wanted and that we only very narrowly escaped. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: GUEST,Alan Morrison Date: 08 Feb 06 - 12:19 PM Oh Ted, you naughty boy,You don't like people to blow you ! Such smut. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 12:16 PM "Yes Alan, I do have a tendency to dislike people who blow us." No comment. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Paco Rabanne Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:53 AM Yes Alan, I do have a tendency to dislike people who blow us. Their Nationality though is ireelevant. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: GUEST,Alan Morrison Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:44 AM So much for the freedom of speech in this country. The man and his followers are allowed by British Law to have a voice. Such bigots here, then I see the Name Ted ! Yes anti Irish, Anti Muslim Anti Arab Ted. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Paco Rabanne Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:34 AM Thanks for that Sapper82, I didn't know. Let's deport him to Hull! |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Pied Piper Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:14 AM Apparently the French security services had agents in the Mosque and reported his behaviour to our government but nothing was done. PP |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: sapper82 Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:11 AM Ted, his British Citizenship has been removed. Now let's get him removed. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Paco Rabanne Date: 08 Feb 06 - 10:47 AM Unfortunately we can't deport him because he is a "British Citizen" would you believe!! He gained citizenship in the 1980's after living here as an illegal immigrant for a couple of years. Bloody good job Hitler is dead, I bet he would be allowed to stay here as well. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Dave Hanson Date: 08 Feb 06 - 04:38 AM They should send him back to Afghanistan to see what else they can chop off him. eric |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Cobble Date: 08 Feb 06 - 04:31 AM They havent had the extradition case yet he could still be shipped out, the sooner the better. The US has a better way of dealing with these people. Cobble |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Dave Hanson Date: 08 Feb 06 - 03:55 AM Hook bloke should count himself bloody lucky to get only seven years [ out in 18 months ] he came back fron Afghanistan with no hands and only one eye. Alan Morrison should fuck off and try living in a totally intolerant society instead of supporting these evil people who abuse our tolerant society. eric |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Feb 06 - 03:45 AM As I said, the police/DPP were actually very reluctant to charge him. They have had the evidence for years. Their hand was forced by the US. If they had not charged him they would have had to extradite, but our system would not allow that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Peace Date: 07 Feb 06 - 03:27 PM Maybe Allah will take him away for good. I certainly hope so. |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Alba Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:25 PM There's a piece here Open Mike: Blue Clicky Jude |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: GUEST,open mike Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:13 PM who is he and what is he accused (or guilty) of? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: GUEST,Alan Morrison Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:08 PM Yes just saw it. Said day for freedom of speech. A lot of what was reported in court seemed as if the police were at their work again, after all, London Met, Police have a long history of setting people up under government advice. The guy has a lot of local support and is respected in the area. Sad day. At least it looks as if he will be released around November. |
Subject: BS: Abu Hamsa guilty From: greg stephens Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:06 PM I think we're getting a bit carried away dealing with self-apponted representatives of God like old Hookie. Also, I wouldn't have thought prison is quite the right place for him, where he will be as happy as a sandboy preaching more self-aggrandizing lunacy to other inadequates. Couldn't we just deport him, or put him on some self-help TV show or something? Seems to me if we find them guilty, then we're stuck with feeding them in prison and giving them just the environment they want. Find them not guilty(see the recent BNP trial) and they are back on the streets smirking unpleasantly. Wouldn't it be a bit more grownup not to try them in the first place? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: akenaton Date: 07 Feb 06 - 10:36 AM Another martyr?? |
Subject: RE: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 07 Feb 06 - 09:24 AM penalty! |
Subject: BS: Abu Hamza Guilty From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 07 Feb 06 - 09:23 AM On 6 counts of incitement to murder, and two of fomenting racial hatred. Strangely, he was not arrested until USA requested extradition on conspiracy to kidnap charge. Lucky he was convicted because he could have successfully appealed against extradition on grounds that he would face death penulty in USA. |