Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 09:37 PM

AAAAAHHHHHHEEEEEMMMMMMM, Mr. Offer, but that workshop was co-hosted by the magnificent Ms. LaMarca, and the shameless hanger on, Mr. Big Mick Lane. ***snerk***. And I make no bones about the fact that I love much of the many genre's that have been lumped together under the heading of Rock and Roll. Good music is good music, no matter where it comes from.

One aside from that workshop. Mary asked me to lead it off. I did "Turn the Page". One of the attendees came up and just had to know who wrote it. I told him it was by Bob Seger, and he went "oh" and walked away as if disheartened. ***laugh out loud***. Still makes me chuckle.

Mick

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 09:06 PM

LaMarca did a great "Guilty Pleasures" workshop at the Getaway last year. She closed it with a rousing rendition of the entire "American Pie."
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: M.Ted
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 05:03 PM

9,999,999 Tears is one of the best contemporary country songs ever! It's a 60's/70's country song--RB wrote it and recorded it in 1966, backed by Billy Joel, Joe South, and Freddy Weller-- Dicky Lee made it a hit in 1976. You'd probably recognize it, if you heard it. Send me your email, and I'll pass it on.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: PoppaGator
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 02:23 PM

Nice, M.Ted ~ nothing ig not eclectic!

I'm familiar with "96 Tears" (by ? and the Mysterians) ~ and once sang it as one of my featured solos with the PTA Oldies-but-Goodies band ~ but not 9,999,999 of them...

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: M.Ted
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 12:59 PM

Just a random slice from my iTunes:
I
t's Tight Like That
What's That Smells Like Fish
My Coloring Book (Kitty Kallen, not Babs)
Hendrix' Like a Rolling Stone
9,999,999 Tears(both Razzy Bailey and Dickie Lee versions)
Go West
Heaven Will Protect the Working Girl
How Many Biscuits Can You Eat?
Cruel to Be Kind
Enjoy the Silence
five versions of Guantanamera
Cha Cha Hua Hua
Satie's Gymnopedes
Heartaches by the Number
Ten versions of Faded Love
The Homes of Donegal
Brejeiro
Sorry, Robbie
Concerto for Violin No. 2 (Pagannini)
Acoustic Piano version of G'n'R's November Rain
South Central Rain
There She Goes Again(five versions)
Toads of the Short Forest
They'll Always Be an England
Desiree
Baubles, Bangles, and Beads
Such Great Heights
There are Fairies in the Bottom of Our Garden

I make no apologies for my tastes, but I am not allowed to pick music for parties--

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:21 AM

Christ: Scott Biram.

I give up. No more code for me today.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:20 AM

Crapola: HTML failure

Swing/Jazz
the Red Stick Ramblers: Cajun swing. Amazing musicians.

and I think I stuck ragtime in there, too. Scott Joplin, James Scott, etc.


Scott Biram, et. al., should have been under the heading "Loud and Obnoxious". A very small part of me needs some psychobilly every once in awhile.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:16 AM

All right, I'll come clean, but I won't apologize. If I listened to folk all the time, I might run the risk of getting burned out on it, and that would be a bad thing. I'm a pretty simple person but I've got a few more moods than just "folk".

I've still got a few contradance, Chieftains, and folk-revival [pop-folk] albums, and the Golden Ring/New Golden Ring set. Other than that, mixed in with my growing collection of blues, Cajun, roots country, and old-time fiddle you'll find:

Pop & rock
Buddy Holly & the Crickets
Everly Brothers (four CD's worth)
Del Shannon
Colin Gilmore: Jimmie Dale's son and a major Buddy Holly obsessor. I think this is what Buddy would have sounded like had he been a Gen X-er.
Ricky Nelson
the Band
Allman Brothers
Creedence Clearwater Revival
the Eagles
Battlefield Band: Folk and rock!
Little Richard
Fats Domino
and I once owned an entire cassette tape of the Shirelles. Yikes.

Nashville country
Randy Travis (sorry, but the man does great country gospel)

"Americana", whatever that means
Gillian Welch
Cowboy Junkies: Good stuff for depressed college students.
Son Volt: Also good stuff for depressed college students.
Skid Mountain Boys: [See above]
Old Crow Medicine Show (well, one CD. I don't actually like them that much(
the Devil Makes Three: Old-time noir.

Swing/Jazz
Hot Club of Cow Town
Scott Biram: blues/country/punk amalgam. When he's in the mood, he does this Woody Guthrie-channeling thing that is almost scary. I listened to him a lot when I hated my job.
the Weary Boys: loud, sloppy, retro-country.
Wayne Hancock: the master of rockabilly revival. I mostly go to watch his lead guitarist, Eddie Biebel, but the whole show is good.

Texas & alt-country
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle
Robert Earl Keen
Lyle Lovett (as close as I get to 'easy listening')
Lucinda Williams

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scorpio
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 08:04 AM

When narrowmindedness is applied to music, the result is never good. There's a whole world of fantastic music out there. My son has introduced me to all kinds of great stuff I never would have heard. I have always tried to do the same for him, so it's fair enough.
So even though I love folk and blues, I appreciate quality in music wherever I find it.
Rock music is going through a renaissance these days, giving us more variety than at any time since the 60's. The extraordinary talents of bands like Tool impress the hell out of me. So does Faiz Ali Faiz, the Pakistani Sufi singer. Two rather different musical genres, but who cares? Both brilliant.
Just because you have a preference for folk music, should there be no room on your CD shelves for Aretha Franklin? Jimi Hendrix? Spike Jones? Beethoven? Django Reinhardt? We are lucky to be able to hear them. Soak it all up. Freak the neighbours with Frank Zappa on full volume while you leap around the room. Then go practice four-part harmonies with your bluegrass group. It's all music, and thank God for it.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:48 PM

Oh I had forgotten that you were up there now Charlie. How far can you go. :-)
How's life up there Jimmy?
Les

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:42 PM

Les, I'll be on touch re The Evardson's song when I'm back on my own computer. ATB from Charlie fB in Dunfermline.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:02 PM

>>The Cafe Dansant, Cleethorpes<<

Hey FB if you get to read this again, Dave & Julie Evardson did a song called "The cafe Dansant" and they talk and sing about going to it at Cleethorpes.

Maybe you should come and see them at Grimsby Folk Club one day :-)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: PoppaGator
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 02:33 PM

I no longer feel the least bit of guilt about any of my tastes, musical or otherwise. However, in my youth, I went through several different phases during which I felt obligations to "like" certain categories of music while disparaging others.

For a period of time in my late teens and early 20s, I consciously rejected whole categories of music that I had enjoyed throughout my previous life, in favor of a rather narrowly defined selection of "authentic" folk and blues styles. Not that the object of my newfound enthusiasm was at all unworthy ~ the stuff was and is wonderful ~ but there was really never any reason to reject the entire remaining portion of the musical spectrum.

Only as certain segments of the "folk" world began to morph into "folk rock" and electrified blues and psychedelia did I allow myself to resume feeling good about enjoying good performances of all categories of music.

One observation, something I find interesting and quite telling: the popular "soul" music of the 1960s ~ material that I originally found to be a bit "outside the pale" and that I briefly resisted enjoying before opening my tastes back up ~ has now become the object of quasi-scholarly interest and snob-appeal to a younger generation. Their interest in the output of the J&M Studio in 1950s New Orleans, Stax/Volt of 1960s Memphis, etc., is very much like the interest that some young folks in the mid-60s had for blues and/or country field recordings from the 1920s and 30s.

My older son and his friends, for example, reject much of the current pop music marketed towards their generation (quite rightly, in my opinion, by the way, but that's another story) and cultivate a nearly-obsessive interest in R&B and soul music from the 50s and 60s. They know much more than I do about, say, Sam Cooke's family life, the origins of the F.A.M.E. studio in Muscle Shoals, etc., etc.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 06:07 AM

WISIWYG,

I was addressing Wesley S. - who started this thread and used the word "Guilty" in the title.

Do you feel guilty about anything, I wonder?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 04:18 AM

Bring on Madame Whiplash, eh?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 09:15 PM

I have plenty of guilty pleasures, but not rock and roll. It is all pain to me.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 03:46 PM

I don't feel guilty about it. I still like my rock and roll. I have been listening to "Waterfall" by The Stone Roses. Superb lyrics and wonderful harmonies. It's pop all right, but beautifully crafted.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 02:20 PM

Shimrod,

Are you addressing a whole threadful of posters who use this thread to talk about non-folk music they like?

Or just me?

Speaking for myself, "reverse" compliments are quite the norm in the local culture where Hardi and I live. Example:

Waitress: Everything OK?
Customer, grinning: Awful!

Waitress leaves with grin of pride-- she made the side dishes herself AND she's spotted you as a fellow local, a pleasure in the midst of tourist season.


People here hate compliments delivered straight-- makes them feel like you're trying to make 'em "puffed up." So I posted in the thread where I remembered people had listed favorite artists. Now it's the subject of attempted religion-trolling, go figure! :~)

Have a nice day.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 02:05 PM

The interesting thing is, why do you feel guilty about it? Do you feel a need to have your tastes 'rubber-stamped' by a 'higher authority'?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 11:11 AM

David Lindley. David effing why did I wait to discover him as a headliner LINDLEY!

Thank you, YouTube.

~S~

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 11:23 AM

When I need a change of pace I turn to Bob Seger, Terry Allen, Gilbert & Sullivan, and Mark Knopfler and thanks to my son have developed some interest in Coldplay.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 09:53 AM

"The blues had a baby
And they called it Rock and Roll"
Brownie McGhee

RtS

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Chris in Wheaton
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 11:40 AM

Bobby Darin songs are great for group singing-
like "Things" (great response chorus) and "Dream Lover"
Chris

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Mooh
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 11:35 PM

Oh okay...and Sweetheart Of The Rodeo by the Byrds. Mooh.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 05:56 PM

Nor now, Villan (I think). The Fentones wore lime green suits and white shoes. Happy Days.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 07:45 AM

no need for any guilt feelings.....imo, folk music is the stuff everybody knows- not just folkies.

as a solo perf. my repertoire includes lots of trad, old pop songs, blues, soul, tunes old & new & so on.

Along with my new group 'Senior Moments' we do all above + some c&w, bluegass, & a capella signing.

+ covers of stones,smiths,david bowie,bleatles,status quo to name just a few.

if folk music gets stuck in the nineteenth century & prior - it'll remain a minority exclusive sport- sheer anathema of its name!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 06:54 AM

So you wasn't a moody guy then :-)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 06:02 AM

Shane Fenton (Alvin Stardust) and the Fentones was the fist "proper" group I ever saw at The Cafe Dansant, Cleethorpes. I was about 12 and had to tell my parents I was at an all-boy party !

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 05:03 AM

Here's a little snippet related to Bobby Angelo and the Tuxedo's.

The Innocents      

Personnel:
DAVID BROWN bs A B
ROGER M BROWN lead gtr A
COLIN GRIFFIN gtr, sax A B
DON GROOM drms A B
BILLY KUY lead gtr B


This Manchester beat band, were formed by Roger M. Brown at the request of Robert Stigwood/Mike Berry. Put together as Berry's replacement backing band for The Outlaws, Roger M. Brown, Dave Brown and Colin Giffin had earlier played in The Tuxedos, who'd had a hit with Baby Sittin' backing Bobby Angelo. Don Groom was the original drummer with The Outlaws.

As The Innocents they played with John Leyton, Jet Harris, Mike Berry, Gene Vincent, The Four Seasons, B. Bumble and The Stingers, Johnny Burnette, The Kinks, Hollies, Moody Blues, Yardbirds, Beatles and The Rolling Stones. When their management company folded, Dave Brown and Colin Giffin formed The End, which later evolved into Tucky Buzzard.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 04:46 AM

Bobby Angelo and the Tuxedos - Baby Sitting

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 04:26 AM

Shane Fenton and The Fentones

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:37 PM

I'm partial to Christian Island. Lightfoot has written so many that speak to the Canadian spirit--kinda like a 'Tom Thompson and the Group of Seven', but in words and music.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:36 AM

Used to do Gordie Lightfoot's 'Rainy Day People' and 'If You Could Read My Mind' too. Now there's a couple of songs!
:0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:31 AM

Used to but not any more. I have it classed in the same league as Streets of London - great song then but passe now.
JB :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:24 AM

Bet you can sing If I was a carpenter very nicely!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:50 AM

In no particular order:-

Pistol-Packin' Mama (Gene Vincent) - memories of Summer hols in Mablethorpe and a lass from Nottingham whose name I've forgotten but not the snoggin' in the sand-dunes!

Great Balls Of Fi-Yer - Jerry LL

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters

Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers

Bye Bye Johnny - Chuck Berry

Peggy Sue Got Married (The Late Great Charles Hardin Holley)

(Sigh !!!!)

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:42 AM

My top 3 rock songs 1950 -1961 era that I never get fed up of are :-

Pistol Packin Mama - Gene Vincent
Shaking all over - Johnny Kid and The Pirates
What'd I Say - Jerry Lee Lewis

Good little website here.
http://shakingallover.cjb.net/

A particular song that I like very very very much, is

If I were a carpenter - Bobby Darin

What are yours 1950 - 1961

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:08 AM

I'm with you Roger (what's up mate, can't you lie in on Sundays either?!!!). I'd allow up to '60 as being the Golden Era of R&R - the real groundbreaking stuff. If it hadn't happened there'd never have been any Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Genesis, Eminem, Boyzone (there's a thought!) or any of 'em.

I listen to, and enjoy, music from all genres and all periods (yes, including Eminem whom I regard as a superlative wordsmith) but I always come back to the joy and simplicity of the old R&R artists. Rock On!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:08 AM

Stones, Beatles, Kinks, Dylan, The Who and loads of other stuff. I saw Ray Davies playing solo a few years ago. He was telling stories between songs and was very entertaining. It struck me that he was becoming more like a folk singer. As there were always folk and blues roots in his music, I wondered whether things had come the full circle.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 03:54 AM

My own humble opinion is that the vintage year for popular music, in the UK at least,was 1957 and I've not been much interested in popular music after about 1960, I'm certainly a pre-Beatles man. Like Johnny, I've seen Joe Brown a couple of times in recent years, he's a much underrated guitarist (and plays many other instruments as well).

RtS
(thank you very much)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 03:35 AM

Sorry les, any-term memory is virtually non-existent nowadays! Great artists all of them, have to say Carl's a bit iffy - maybe Rockabilly but not really R&R! Nevertheless, my old band, 'The Strollers' used to do a couple of his songs and we were a bit on the purist side (played nothing younger than 1961 vintage), so I guess we can let him in! :0)

Incidentally, Joe Brown's still playing and recording - check out his CD 'On A Day Like This', which contains a seriously good version of John Prine's 'That's The Way The World Goes Around'. It's available from Amazon.

Cheers,
Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 02:14 AM

Strollin'
You never read my post otherwise you would have seen that I mentioned Johnny Kidd and Gene Vincent. Maybe your short term memory retention is failing you. :-) Now what was I saying uhm uhm, uhm oh sod it I have forgotten.

What about Cliff Richard of Move It fame, Freddie Cannon, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Haley, Olympics, Duane Eddy, Elvis Presley :-), Joe Brown and his Bruvvers, Carl Perkins

I reckon Neil Sedaka also just about creeps in with his wonderful rendition of "I go Ape" oo oo oo oo oo oo oo
Even Bobby Darin was known to do a little bit "Bullmoose"
Brenda lee?

Oh did anybody mention Richie Valens and the Big Bopper.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 11:11 PM

anyone who loves rock n roll hasn't lived unless theyve heard the greatest band of all times......

THE LOVED ONES

an australian band from the late 60s .......their music was the best.

freda

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: LadyJean
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 11:06 PM

I spent my last 2 quarters at O.U. in the international dorm. There were two girls in Taiwan across the hall from us. I will always remember waking one morning to "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" in Chinese. It beggars description. My roommate and I rolled over in bed and laughed like loons.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:38 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that I love rock & roll. About 98% of my 400+ CD collection is rock & roll...and about 90% of that is British rock and roll from the 60's to the just-released.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:13 PM

I forgot Marty Wilde! Mea Culpa! Great rocker but not as good looking as his daughter!

And I haven't seen any mention of Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps in this thread (yes I know they were American. Duh!). The Dog's Gonads!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:02 PM

Saw Billy Fury at Lewisham theatre very early seventies I think, same bill as Marty Wilde. Seem to remember Billy Fury in skin tight pink satin but it may just have been wishful thinking.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 04:26 PM

Thread Title - 'Guilty pleasures - Rock and Roll'. It's specific, not a generalisation.

Also I didn't mention the UK R&R greats - Johnny Kidd, Vince Eager, Dickie Pride, Ronnie Wycherley (best known as Billy Fury). Awsome!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 02:48 PM

Johnny, no one so far has said this is about being a purist! Some of these listed performers are rock, others are popular, but the point is they're non-folk. They are Other in terms of our folk persona.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 07:08 AM

F**k (Hi Ed) Guilty, I'm amassing the greatest Pre-Beatle Elvis collection in Newton Aycliffe. Phew !!