Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Bill D Date: 23 May 05 - 06:15 PM ß=alt0223 |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 05 - 03:39 PM ĩ Ī Ĭ, ĭ; Į (297, 298, 300, 301, 302) |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 05 - 03:36 PM Ă Ĕ |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 May 05 - 03:17 PM Macrons ā ē ī ō ū Ā Ē |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jenny H Date: 02 Sep 01 - 07:34 AM Ah, right - forgot a br! Try again JH /// :-) \\\
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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jenny H Date: 02 Sep 01 - 07:31 AM [Shrieks of delight] IT WORKS! IT WORKS! IT WORKS! Sorry, I get carried away sometimes.
JH Let me try my signature ... /// |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jenny H Date: 02 Sep 01 - 07:28 AM I thought to start with that to post something all you had to do was type it in the little box and click Submit Message. Only then I read the FAQs and it was all about HTML and it looks as if you have to keep putting <, br, and > in, which looks horribly intimidating. And suppose I've got it wrong, it's going to look really stupid ... so I'm glad I found this thread, it gives me a chance to try a message with and without brs without getting shouted at. Thanks to whoever's idea it was I'm also not sure if this thing automatically puts your name at the bottom, so I'm trying it without first. |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: alanww Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:27 AM Try wimmins night |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Zhenya Date: 16 Aug 01 - 01:52 PM Test
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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:02 PM Burke Yes, I've found it pretty handy a couple of times. I followed the "Appendix E" table in the O'Reilly "HTML: the Definitive Guide," which I've found to be a pretty good reference. One of the things that the O'Reilly guide does a good job on is pointing out things that work in Netscape but not in IE, & what works in newer viewers (or doesn't) that is different for older ones. The table would be a lot handier to use if you could put it into multi-column format, but the only simple way to do that would be to use a "TABLE." I need to go back to the Mudcat HTML guide before I do any more with it, because I seem to recall a comment about tables having, or causing, a problem with Mudcat's HTML handling. A shorter table, with just characters from about number 191 through 255 would probably be the most help to people, since those characters cover most of the accents, breves, tildes, etc that would help clarify some of the non-English references that people put into threads. We probably need some comment from people that know more about the data base before encouraging the use of "extended" characters there. If you're searching for "O'Henry" and someone put it in as "Ó Henry" it might make life more difficult instead of better. John |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Burke Date: 18 Jul 01 - 07:40 PM John, I hope you saved that! It would be really handy in the Mudcat HTML Guide |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 05:37 AM Can't resist one more There are 8 hyphens after the character and only 7 in front of it.(This was actually on purpose) In your word processor, if you replace "--------" (that's 8 dashes) with "tab" (again, it's "^t" in Word) you'll get one column tabbed out, withe the dashes removed. Next replace "-------" (thats 7 dashes) with ";^t" it should put the ";" where needed and tab out the other column. John |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 05:29 AM Weel, I see that I still screwed it up. The "Numeric" code must end with a ";" that I left out Example ÿ-------ÿ--------ÿ I think I'll quit while I'm ahead John |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 05:24 AM OOPS! Forgot to delete the spare numbers bigger than 255. These are NOT defined. If I've got it right, those who want a reference should copy the list into a word processor, replace "-----" with a tab (^t in Word), and then format it into 3 or 4 columns for easier reading. Here it is again with the junk removed from the end !-------! 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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 05:18 AM Seems to work. For no good reason at all, let's try the standard!!!! !-------! 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§-------§--------§ ¨-------¨--------¨ ©-------©--------© ª-------ª--------ª «-------«--------« ¬-------¬--------¬ ­---------------­ ®-------®--------® ¯-------¯--------¯ °-------°--------° ±-------±--------± ²-------²--------² ³-------³--------³ ´-------´--------´ µ-------µ--------µ ¶-------¶--------¶ ·-------·--------· ¸-------¸--------¸ ¹-------¹--------¹ º-------º--------º »-------»--------» ¼-------¼--------¼ ½-------½--------½ ¾-------¾--------¾ ¿-------¿--------¿ À-------À--------À Á-------Á--------Á Â-------Â-------- Ã-------Ã--------à Ä-------Ä--------Ä Å-------Å--------Å Æ-------Æ--------Æ Ç-------Ç--------Ç È-------È--------È É-------É--------É Ê-------Ê--------Ê Ë-------Ë--------Ë Ì-------Ì--------Ì Í-------Í--------Í Î-------Î--------Î Ï-------Ï--------Ï Ð-------Ð--------Ð Ñ-------Ñ--------Ñ Ò-------Ò--------Ò Ó-------Ó--------Ó Ô-------Ô--------Ô Õ-------Õ--------Õ Ö-------Ö--------Ö ×-------×--------× Ø-------Ø--------Ø Ù-------Ù--------Ù Ú-------Ú--------Ú Û-------Û--------Û Ü-------Ü--------Ü Ý-------Ý--------Ý Þ-------Þ--------Þ ß-------ß--------ß à-------à--------à á-------á--------á â-------â--------â ã-------ã--------ã ä-------ä--------ä å-------å--------å æ-------æ--------æ ç-------ç--------ç è-------è--------è é-------é--------é ê-------ê--------ê ë-------ë--------ë ì-------ì--------ì í-------í--------í î-------î--------î ï-------ï--------ï ð-------ð--------ð ñ-------ñ--------ñ ò-------ò--------ò ó-------ó--------ó ô-------ô--------ô õ-------õ--------õ ö-------ö--------ö ÷-------÷--------÷ ø-------ø--------ø ù-------ù--------ù ú-------ú--------ú û-------û--------û ü-------ü--------ü ý-------ý--------ý þ-------þ--------þ ÿ-------ÿ--------ÿ Ā-------Ā ā-------ā Ă-------Ă ă-------ă Ą-------Ą ą-------ą Ć-------Ć ć-------ć Ĉ-------Ĉ ĉ-------ĉ Ċ-------Ċ ċ-------ċ Č-------Č č-------č Ď-------Ď ď-------ď Đ-------Đ đ-------đ Ē-------Ē ē-------ē Ĕ-------Ĕ ĕ-------ĕ Ė-------Ė ė-------ė Ę-------Ę ę-------ę Ě-------Ě ě-------ě Ĝ-------Ĝ ĝ-------ĝ Ğ-------Ğ ğ-------ğ Ġ-------Ġ ġ-------ġ Ģ-------Ģ ģ-------ģ Ĥ-------Ĥ ĥ-------ĥ Ħ-------Ħ ħ-------ħ Ĩ-------Ĩ ĩ-------ĩ Ī-------Ī ī-------ī Crossing Fingers John |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Jul 01 - 05:11 AM Let's see if a few of these work with our codepage. First column should print the "Numeric Entry Code." Second column should print the character. Third column, if there, should be the "Named Entry." A short sample to try it out. !-------! "-------"--------" #-------# $-------$ %-------% &-------&--------& '-------' (-------( )-------) *-------* |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jul 01 - 09:48 PM http://www.comhaltas.com/fleadh/eireann.htm |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Burke Date: 17 Jul 01 - 07:44 PM Testing out where I can |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: MudGuard Date: 17 Jul 01 - 03:24 AM Nightwing, not quite right! Numeric character codes are Unicodes which is standardized (platform-independant). The symbolic character codes are just synonyms for some of the numeric character codes for people who can't remember numbers. Most people can remember " easier than " (or was it # ;-) Exceptions: the codes from € to ÿ. These are taken from the current codepage (which can be set for each webpage). |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Burke Date: 16 Jul 01 - 05:59 PM Try again: <a href="/thread.cfm?threadid=21858">Click here</a>
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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Burke Date: 16 Jul 01 - 05:55 PM This is either a clicky, or the text for clicky. I hope it the later. |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 10 Jul 01 - 08:27 AM Thank you, NightWing, that's useful to know. Noreen |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: NightWing Date: 10 Jul 01 - 03:27 AM Noreen, It's my understanding that the "descriptive" codes are specifically designed to be cross-platform, while number codes are always specific to a particular browser. Pene Azul, Thanks for that link to WebMonkey. Never been there before and it looks like there's LOTS of good info there. (I was about to give my own best link for "special characters" but WebMonkey's is WAY better!) Blessed Be, NightWing |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:14 PM <font color=red>♥</font> |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Pene Azul Date: 18 Jun 01 - 01:52 PM Noreen, I believe the number codes are less reliable across different platforms and languages. I'll try to learn more about it and keep you posted if I do. Perhaps some other Mudgeeks will enlighten us too. Jeff |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 18 Jun 01 - 01:39 PM Thanks Jon, I'll bear that in mind. Would the number code (where available) be more standard? Cue for a bit of reading around the subject. Noreen |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jon Freeman Date: 18 Jun 01 - 08:01 AM I see them on IE5 but Netscape 4.73 diplays ♥ and Opera 4.02 displays an unfilled rectangle. Jon |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 18 Jun 01 - 07:12 AM Oh- thanks for telling me, Jeri. I can see them fine... wonder if I'm the only one? *grin* |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 17 Jun 01 - 10:28 PM Thanjs Jeri |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jeri Date: 17 Jun 01 - 10:08 PM John, if you go to the "Filter" block on the main forum page and type "banana" then set the age to 7 days, the thread pops right up - here. When you post a response in a thread that has nothing to do with the initial question, there's a slim chance whoever asked will see it. Of course, there's a real good chance someone will help you find the original thread. :-) Noreen, I can't see your little hearts at all in the thread. When I go to "view source" they show up just fine. I have no idea why they work in text but not in a thread... |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 17 Jun 01 - 09:25 PM A few days ago somebody asked "what words rhyme with bannana",I cant find the right thread but I found this site:www.rhymer.com I found it in a book called Web Guide,I hope this has been some use to some-one.john |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 04:41 PM Love it! Are the name code and number code equally acceptable in all cases (where both are available)? |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 04:32 PM mañana.... ♥ Noreen |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 04:25 PM Oh, Jeff- of course that's what they stand for! I couldn't get past 'left' and 'right' something, which didn't work... :0) I have bookmarked both links, thank you. µm ♥ ♥ ê |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Pene Azul Date: 17 Jun 01 - 04:02 PM Here's a nice reference for special characters. There's lots of good stuff on Webmonkey. Jeff |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Pene Azul Date: 17 Jun 01 - 03:56 PM Cool! Yes, they stand for "less than" and "greater than." Jeff |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 03:56 PM Ha! |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 03:55 PM Thanks Jeff! Do lt and gt stand for something? It might help me to remember, that's all. I'm gradually building up my HTML skills, thanks to Mudcat. hr Noreen |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 03:50 PM like this? <br> |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Pene Azul Date: 17 Jun 01 - 02:55 PM Noreen, if you'd like to display <br> you can type <br> Jeff |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Noreen Date: 17 Jun 01 - 01:17 PM < then br then > |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Pene Azul Date: 17 Jun 01 - 12:46 PM Jon, you should be able to use "Find" and search for "Profile manager." Jeff |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jeri Date: 11 Jun 01 - 06:57 PM I've been sick - my excuse for saying something stupid (this time). Jon is right - one e-mail address, one user name, one cookie. Bill, I use MSIE5 and Agent and have had no problems. Just gotta tell IE that Agent is your preferred e-mail and news reader. I had Netscape, but it was a bit too assertive for my taste. It kept taking over for other programs without asking. |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: Jon Freeman Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:00 AM Jeri, I'm not sure what you are saying about email addresses. It is the Mudcat Membership system that sets the rule that duplictate email addresses are not allowed. Using different browsers will make no difference. If an additional email address is required, one solution is to go to Yahoo or Hotmail and get a free account. Bill, how do you do that? Netscape refer me to some Profile Manager but I can't find it on my installation of 4.73. Jon |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: MudGuard Date: 11 Jun 01 - 03:54 AM neither blink nor marquee are HTML. blink is a netscape extension, marquee is a Microsoft extension. Both are non-standard and only understood by browsers of the inventors. MudGuard |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:28 AM Hmmm... nailed it in one. Maybe tomorrow I can bring that baby in sideways for a landing. Nah, they'd prolly just think I made a cross. *G* ~S~ |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:25 AM Wait! I heard this: "If a**holes could fly, THAT would be an airport!" So....
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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:09 AM I only get the scrolling, not the blink. Sure wish I had Netscape so I could see them blink! LOL! You can add color too! *G* Night all! ~S~ |
Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:06 AM Or the REALLY REALLY great stuff--
Hmmm, need those size codes again... ~S~
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Subject: RE: HTML Practice From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:04 AM oops! forgot to cancel the effect before signing out! LOL! Better award these too then for the really REALLY good threads and posts:
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