BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: DMcG
Date: 09 Jul 23 - 02:08 AM

Labour ‘throwing the kitchen sink’ at Selby byelection as hopes grow of shock win
I can't see how that could really work out well. If Labour do get the seat, they will send a signal that they can win similar seats in the General Election when it occurs, but they will not be able to "throw the kitchen sink" at every such seat, so it will give a false impression of their ability to win. And of course, there is a very high chance of letting the Conservatives win by spittibg the vote.

Probably the best result is if Labour do throw the kitchen sink at the seat, but the LibDems still win. In that case, maybe more intelligent tactics will be used for the GE.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Jun 23 - 01:40 PM

I just can't bring myself to watch that, Steve. What the Labour party has become is so sad that I cannot bear to get it confirmed any more!

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 04:50 PM

Only if it's Tories we're talking about...

Watched a documentary called the Labour Files on YouTube last night. OK, it was made (or put together) by Al Jazeera. It dealt with the downfall of Jeremy Corbyn, particularly with regard to the trumped-up antisemitism nonsense. How Labour apparatchik insiders and not a few MPs, including John Mann, Luciana Berger, Margaret Hodge and Ruth Smeeth, especially those with sympathies for Israel, ganged up to demonise him. How Labour were forced into the position of having to accept the deeply flawed IHRA definition of antisemitism. How Zionism, antisemitism and criticism of Israel were conflated in order to prevent any criticism of Israel and how reporting of the treatment of Palestinians was virtually set aside. There were plenty of other disturbing revelations.

I'm not looking for confirmation bias and I was extremely aware of the Al Jazeera logo at the bottom of the screen. But I'm piqued into delving a bit more. Anyone who feels the need to criticise Corbyn (and he certainly isn't beyond criticism) should reflect on whether their opinions were formed by dint of what they got from our mainstream media. Even the "unbiased" BBC has a lot to answer for in light of that infamous Panorama documentary. It's lazy talk to characterise him as "a weak leader who led Labour to their worst defeat since the thirties," etc. A bit more deep digging is required in order to see what really went on, especially in the Labour Party. And Starmer doesn't get a free pass either, far from it.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 10:20 AM

The Cat's had hiccups on and off for a few days.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 09:30 AM

I've just done a longer post that won't post. Grr. I'll try again, whenever...

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 08:05 AM

Is this the joke thread? :-D

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 06:12 AM

The end of the old thread?   The old thread just told me that it's a frayed knot...

Subject: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 23 - 05:57 AM

Because part 2 of the single thread for UK politics has reached over 1000 posts I hope to start a new one here. The old one should be closed soon.

The end of the old thread