Old Songs Festival 2001 - YES!: Part II

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 10:27 PM

Money is useful, especially if you wish to eat or drink, and didn't bring your own food and beverage, or didn't bring enough to last you, or you eventually decide to go home, and need more gas, or you want to buy performers' CDs or tapes.

But I was thinking of things like:

A flashlight, for the long three a. m. trek to the johns.

Another flashlight, to use to find the first flashlight in a dark tent.

A travel clock with an illuminated dial, so you can yell "Stop banging on that goddam banjo, don't you know it's three in the morning?" and be accurate.

Et cetera....

Peter.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 08:06 PM

Money? Or will anyone believe it?

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 07:34 PM

What is the thing you are most likely to get to Old Songs, or some other festival, and wish you had brought, but forgot to pack? Maybe we can work up a foolproof (fat chance) checklist.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:30 PM

Dyslexics of the world, untie!!!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:46 PM

OK Peg, I know I misspelled weird...It's not nice to pick on the dyslexic. Keep it up and I'll sic my god on you.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:15 PM

If I'm downwind, you will have company.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:13 PM

...which is really the point of that area, as far as I'm concerned. Hence the small children, etc. I am an early riser, so no matter when I get to bed, it's best I hang out in the area where I'll have company when I fire up the Coleman for that first cuppa!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 06:44 PM

Again, the "quiet" area is only quiet at night. It can be quite loud first thing in the morning.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 04:37 PM

Sorry about that last post...wrong thread.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 04:28 PM

It was good to see Barry Finn at the Mystic Sea Music Festival for the after concert singing, even if he did fall alseep during my singing of Shanghai Brown...

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 04:02 PM

Peg--plop your tent down where you will.

There isn't a separate camping area for handicapped people. The area where you can park an RV wih full hook-ups is in the quiet area. There is an area near the stage reserved for handicapped seating in the evening, and there are some handicapped-accessible toilets, but the whole festival site is accessible to everyone.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:54 PM

I really don't know as that the "quiet" area has anything to do with "handicapped." It's more a matter of the "noisy" area being for people who want to jam far into the night - or morning, depending on your definition - and the "quiet" area being for people who want to go to bed and sleep at a reasonable hour, or who have children that they want to have do so.

We have always camped in the noisy area, and I always go to bed and go to sleep with music going on all around me. Doesn't keep me from sleeping. It's rather pleasant. If it were not music of a kind I liked, it would be different. But what why would I drive a long way to attend, and pay money to get in to, a festival of music I didn't like?

Peter.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:27 PM

This brings up a point; by camping in the quiet area, are we taking away camping space from handicapped folk? (I am assuming that is Kendall's reason for camping there and not some physical handicap but I do not know). I would camp in the noisy area willingly, if that is the case.

Peg

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 12:17 PM

We will be camping in the Hcap area too, due to my SO's ability to get around easily. I hope it's not TOO quiet though. See you there. JohnB

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 12:01 PM

I dont know if there was a real conspiracy, but, I could believe that many people had the same idea at the same time. It's no secret that I dont like Bush, and, I guarantee that before he gets back here from Europe there will be many more in my camp.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: GUEST,bbc at work
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 11:52 AM

Our money is in & we have tickets in hand. We'll be driving up after I get home from the last day of school that Friday. After having just been at Anna's, it will be an added pleasure to see 'catters again so soon. I wish Bill could stay & Pat, I sure wish you could join us. Maybe next year to both!

love,

bbc & Duane D.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 11:52 AM

It all started when he hit me back!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:03 AM

So Kendall has finally stopped picking on Matt and is going after someone his own size! Matt needs to see this. Should have guessed that the two of them would hiss and spit like a pair of tomcats but wisely keep a few miles between them. What do you think, Mudcatters? Does Spaw have the gear to keep Kendall in check? And does either one of them have what it takes to set foot on the other's territory? Will it be dueling banjos or something a bit more scatalogical? Shall we ask Paw to referee and Cletus to act as timer? Tune in for further episodes of "The Man Show" same Mud time, same Mud channel.
Happy Monday All. Mary Sunshine is back.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: MMario
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:39 AM

sorry about the thread drift - two weekends only - small - attendence was about 1500 a day (my home faire runs an average of about 12,000 a day)- but the setting, in Fort Drummer State Park, is lovely - a nice mix of sun and shade - with gentle breezes. An exceptional cast in my opinion - well concieved and executed scenerio throughout the day - good interaction of the characters with the patrons. I could have stood for some more music and a bit more variety in the "shops" - but the faire is only two years old - so I am sure it will grow and improve. It certainly is off to a good start!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 10:50 PM

how is the Vermont Ren faire? is it only a couple weekends?

Peg

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: MMario
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 10:40 PM

two weeks!

Animaterra and I were two mudcats passing at the shuttle bus stop at Vermont Ren-faire today - had enough time for one quick song and an even quicker chat - then she hopped the shuttle and I took off for upstate NY - but it was great to see her again. knowing Old songs was coming helped

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 10:21 PM

Well, we'll have to have that duel Kendall, but not at Old Songs. Ya' see, I'm going to take that time this year to get a valve job so I'll be totally prepared.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 09:49 PM

Barry; Kendall and I are gonna be campingin the quiet section (I think also known as the handicapped section); so to avoid noise when necessary, but to be abel to go to the noisy areas when warranted...

might be a good place for you if you find you need your rest...

Peg

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Barry Finn
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 09:37 PM

By the way where are most gonna be camping, we'll be looking to camp close by other catters. Barry & family

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Barry Finn
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 09:19 PM

I believe Kendall is gonna out last all the younger folk first, which judging from my one night at Mystic won't be a challenge in the least (you know who you are), then I guess I'll have to see that he can make it sleep walking back to his own bunk. Barry

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 08:07 PM

Rules? What rules? How about insults at 10 paces?

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 08:01 PM

So 'Spaw and Kendall are going to have an endurance contest at Old Songs? Where is it to be held and what are the rules of engagement?

P.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 12:06 PM

Spaw, talk is cheap, rum costs money!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: DaveJ
Date: 10 Jun 01 - 07:57 AM

Ebbie said:

Wow! I count 21 Mudcats who plan to be there!...

Ebbie, there really are only three chucks, but then there's family, friends, groupies, etc. The tenting space around the chuck zone gets to be a bit tight...esspecially if there is a peripatetic privy that shows up mystereiously.

DaveJ

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 10:15 PM

Sorry Allan......kinda' had to be done though.....it was a classic!

AND KENDALL........"Ain't got the gear???" Surely you jest! I could keep you in check and never get out of first.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Allan C.
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 09:51 PM

Posting a link to KtT, indeed! Spaw, you are absolutely incorrigible!

I wish I could say I'll be there this year. I'd love to again see the folks I met there last year. And this year promises to be even more filled with wonderful 'Catters!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 09:27 PM

Wow! I count 21 Mudcats who plan to be there! What fun that promises to be. If I lived a couple of thousand miles closer I'd love to be there too. Maybe next year I'll find myself in the neighborhood... There's nothing like a music festival when you don't have to get up in the morning to go to work. Have great fun, y'all.

:)

Ebbie

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 03:57 PM

Some. Sandy (Bigchuck) probably knows quite a few more than I do.

P.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 02:13 PM

Son, you dont pack the gear to keep me in check!

Chuck, I hope all this political growling wont keep us from swapping a song or two? Do you know many Utah Phillips songs?

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:32 PM

Like I said.........

Yeah Peter, I think there is probably room for a couple of 'Chucks......Matter of fact, I could use the help keeping Kendall in check.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:23 PM


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Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:01 PM

How about dirty old Woodchucks?

P.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 11:24 AM

Yeah, I think that's the part that struck me Kendall. Save me a spot too huh?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 11:16 AM

Could it be that part about the dirty old men?

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 11:04 AM

BTW....There actually is no "rule" about starting a part 2 or 3 to a thread. Threads like this one make sense to start subsequent parts because the subject will continue for some time. When posts get to about 100, many browsers simply refuse to load them. Other threads that have pretty much run their course at the 100 level are frankly best to let die. Many of that type, and they are almost always BS, have a part 2 started and it gets only a dozen additional posts. One thing that should always be done is linking the first part to the second and vice versa. Much easier to keep track of that way.................Unless of course you are talking about the infamous (more like notorious) Killing the Thread thread which had a rule stating there was to be NO PART TWO!

And why do I envision Kendall showing up at Brushwood?

When I think of Old Songs, I always think of it as Allison's (Animaterra's) festival. No one gets quite as excited about it as she does AND she starts building the excitement for next year the day after this year's ends! I love reading her posts in general, but she really gets passionate about Old Songs, like a kid on the night before Christmas.(:<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 10:31 AM

I go camping at Brushwood every summer. It is indeed clothing optional and the showers at the poolhouse are wide open, co-ed, let it all hang out.

But there are showers for men and women, closed and separate, further up the hill...some people just won't do the public nudity thing, or get tired of being leered at by dirty old men who hang out way too long at the shower house for no reason other than to ogle naked women...but this happens at all pagan gatherings, not just the ones at Brushwood.

Peg

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: DaveJ
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 04:32 AM

A new thread after 100 posts...Great idea. The "DON'T POST TO THIS THREAD!!!" thread when for 209 posts. Damn that was a long way to the end.

Peg's question about 'clothing or lack there of' at Old Songs made me think of my wife's comments after she went to music festival at Brushwood. The showers were the open gang type with no dividers and in the modern parlance, genderfree. It didn't bother her except she just wasn't expecting that. She just slyly enjoyed the view...like everyone else. At least she said they had hot water.

Hot water, like sun is a gamble at Old Songs...Everybody wish for dry weather, please, but bring rain gear just in case.
Dave

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: bigchuck
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 10:51 PM

Or is Kendall weird?....Hmmmmm...better not ask.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 10:31 PM

or is it weird, perhaps?

:)

Peg

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 10:24 PM

Anyone who knows me will tell you that I dont get excited very often, but, I'm WIRED!hmm or is it wierd...

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 08:40 PM

I can't believe it's only 2 weeks away!

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Hollowfox
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 04:20 PM

I can't track down the old thread I started a few months ago, but I plan to bring the book I grumbled about - "Positively 4th Street" by David Hadju, about Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi and Richard Farina in their Greenwich Village days. This way, folks can take a look at it and see what they think.

Subject: RE: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Peg
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 03:00 PM

thanks Peter; much appreciated.

Now, can you plant some more trees in New York City?

Subject: Old Songs - YES!: Part II
From: Midchuck
Date: 08 Jun 01 - 11:46 AM

I thought we had a rule that you started a new thread when you got to 100 posts? Maybe everyone was waiting for someone else to do it. I have been told by many people that I was "something else," so maybe I'm someone else also.

Link to prior thread is here.

Peter.