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Origin: Jim Along Josey / Jim Along Josie Related threads: Folklore: Whence came tickety-boo, kilter, & whack (73) Blues Lyrics Translation (80) (origins) Origins: 'Dony' / Doney (36) BS: Did you ever wonder (8) Folklore: between a rock and a hard place (18) BS: curious expressions (120) BS: Is it a song if......... (30) Philippa, need your expertise (8) In Mudcat MIDIs: Jim Along Josey (from Sigmund Spaeth's "Weep Some More, My Lady") Jim Along Josie (From "Tom Glazer's Treasury of Folk songs") Jim Along Josie (From "Handy Play Party Book") |
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Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: John Minear Date: 15 Oct 02 - 07:40 AM Richie, I'm interested in your suggestion of a possible connection between "Jim Along Josie" and the "Limber Jim/Buckeye Jim" tradition. You can find a discussion of "Limber Jim/Buckeye Jim" here. There is obviously a connection between the lyrics about Now way down south, not very far off, A bullfrog died wid de hooping cough, from "Jim Along, Josie" and, Way down yonder in a wooden trough, An old lady died with the whooping cough. which is from "Limber Jim". But I am more intrigued by the phrase "Jim along, Josie". It reminds me of "go limber, Jim, you can't go". We were never able to really pin down what "go limber, Jim" meant. I wonder what "Jim along" means. And is there any significance to the use of "Jim"? Is it more than a name? It would seem so in the "Jim along, Josie" context. Masato, I appreciate your thoroughness in laying out the minstrel background of this piece. I've never come across anything similar for "Limber Jim/Buckeye Jim" and would imagine that it is later than the minstrel tradition but draws floating verses/phrases from that tradition. - T.O.M. |
Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: Sandy Paton Date: 15 Oct 02 - 03:26 AM The ballad index numeric reference to Lawrence Older's Folk-Legacy recording is incorrect. I recorded Lawrence, Adirondack logger, ballad singer and fiddler, back in 1964 and released the recording, with excellent notes written by Pete McElligott, as Folk-Legacy FSA-15 in that year. The recording is currently available as a "custom cassette" (C-15 - with the original booklet) and will soon be available as one of our new "custom CDs" (CD-15). Sandy |
Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Oct 02 - 02:42 AM From Traditional Ballad Index: Jim Along Josie DESCRIPTION: Originally a blackface minstrel piece, now often reduced to odd lyrics held together by the refrain, "Hey jim-along, jim-along Josie; Hey jim-along, jim along Jo." Sample verse: "Any pretty girl that wants a beau, Just fall in the arms of Jim Along Joe" AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1840 (sheet music) KEYWORDS: nonsense lyric playparty FOUND IN: US(Ap,MA,So) REFERENCES (3 citations): Randolph 575, "Jim Along Josie" (2 texts) Warner 180, "Get Along Josie" (1 text, 1 tune) Spaeth-WeepMore, pp. 103-104, "Jim Along Josey" (1 text, 1 tune) RECORDINGS: Lawrence Older, "Jim Along Josie" (on LOlder01) Pete Seeger, "Jim Along Josie" (on PeteSeeger3, PeteSeegerCD03) Notes: Spaeth suggests that this is a minstrel tune, and he's probably right. He suggests that it was written by Edward Harper, who presented it in his 1838 play "The Free Nigger of New York." But it has entered oral tradition -- though perhaps in a filed-down form; Spaeth's text has a four-line verse while the traditional forms often use two-line stanzas. The choruses are the same. - RBW File: R575 |
Subject: Lyr Add: JIM ALONG JOSEY (Edward Harper) From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Oct 02 - 02:33 AM From Public Domain Music (this site has closed): "JIM ALONG JOSEY" (1840) Words [and music?] by Edward Harper New York: Firth and Hall [Source: pages 118-119 of "Minstrel Songs, Old and New" (1883)] 1. I'se from Lucianna as you all know, Dar whar Jim along Josey's all de go, Dem niggars all rise when de bell does ring, And dis is de song dat dey sing. [CHORUS] Hey get along, get along Josey, Hey get along, Jim along Joe! 2. Oh! likewise a new pair tight-knee'd trousaloons, Den I walks up and down broadway wid my Suzanna, And de white folks will take me to be Santa Anna. (CHORUS) 3. My sister Rose de oder night did dream, Dat she was floating up and down de stream, And when she woke she began to cry, And de white cat picked out de black cat's eye. (CHORUS) 4. Now way down South not very far off, A Bullfrog died wid de hooping cough, And de oder side of Mississippi as you must know, Dar's where I was christen'd Jim along Joe. (CHORUS) 5. The New York niggers tink dey're fine, Because dey drink de genuine, De Southern niggers dey lib on mush, And when dey laugh dey say Oh Hush. (CHORUS) 6. I'm de nigger that don't mind my troubles, Because dey are nothing more dan bubbles, De ambition that dis nigger feels Is showing de science of his heels. (CHORUS) ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Oct 02 - 02:18 AM From the Bodleian Library collection: Printer: Sanderson (Edinburgh) Date: between 1830 and 1910 Imprint: Sanderson, Printer, Edinburgh Illus. Ballads on sheet: 1 Note: Imprint defaced Copies: Firth b.34(153) Ballads: 1. Jim along Josey ("Oh, I'm from Lusiana, as you must all know ...") Subject: Blackface minstrelsy Note: Slip Printer: Hodges, E.M.A. (London) Date: between 1855 and 1861 Imprint: Notice - E. Hodges has Removed from 3... Ballads on sheet: 1 Note: Slip. Part of a sheet of two ballads; see Harding B 11(2186) Copies: Firth b.25(370) Harding B 16(130b) Ballads: 1. London exhibitions ("The names of two great warriers, [sic] whom here you may see ...") Performer: Sharp, John W. To the tune of: Jim along Josey Subject: Entertainments; London (England) Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: [Pi]tts, Printer, Toy and Marble Warehouse, 6, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials Illus. Ballads on sheet: 1 Note: Imprint cropped Copies: Harding B 15(148a) Ballads: 1. Jim along Josey ("Oh, I'se from Lusiana, as you must all know ...") Subject: Blackface minstrelsy Note: Slip. Part of a sheet of two ballads; see Harding B 11(1787) Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: Pitts, Printer, Toy and Marble Warehouse, 6, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials Illus. Ballads on sheet: 2 Copies: Harding B 11(1787) Ballads: 1. Irish Molly, O! ("As I walk'd out one morning all in the month of May ...") Subject: Rejected suitor; Ireland 2. Jim along Josey ("Oh, I'se from Lusiana, as you must all know ...") Subject: Blackface minstrelsy; Fashions; Washington, George, 1732-1799; Van Buren, Martin, 1782-1862 Printer: Birt, T. (London) Date: between 1833 and 1841 Imprint: Birt, Printer, 39, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials Illus. Ballads on sheet: 1 Copies: Harding B 14(100) Ballads: 1. Jim along Josey's invitation to the royal christening ("I comes o'er de seas in storms and gales ...") To the tune of: Jim along Josey Subject: Blackface minstrelsy; 1842; Royal family; Edward, VII, King of Great Britain, 1841-1910 Printer: Birt (London) Date: between 1833 and 1851 Imprint: Birt, Printer, 39, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials, London Illus. Ballads on sheet: 2 Copies: Harding B 11(1872) Ballads: 1. Jim along Josey ("Oh! I'se from Lusiana, as you must all know ...") Subject: Blackface minstrelsy 2. Burlington bay ("The rain fell in torrents, the wind whistled shrill ...") Subject: Shipwreck; Fishermen Printer: Hodges, E.M.A. (London) Date: between 1855 and 1861 Imprint: Hodges, (from Pitts) Wholesale Toy Warehouse, [31, Dudley] Street, Seven Dials. Notice, E. Hodges has Removed from 31 Dudley St., to 26, Grafton-street Soho Ballads on sheet: 2 Copies: Harding B 11(2186) Ballads: 1. London exhibitions ("The names of two great warriors, whom here you may see ...") Performer: Sharp, John W. To the tune of: Jim along Josey [and others] Subject: Great Exhibition, 1851; Indians of North America; Amusements; Chinese; Americans; Waxworks; London (England) 2. Love in a hayband ("Did you ever hear of one Richard Short's history ...") Subject: Rural society; Taverns Printer: Paul, C. (London) Date: [1841] Imprint: Paul, Printer, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven [Dials] Illus. Ballads on sheet: 1 Copies: Harding B 14(133) Johnson Ballads 692 Johnson Ballads 693 Ballads: 1. The royal rival nurses ("You all recollect well a little time ago ...") To the tune of: Jim along Josey Subject: Drinking - women; Servants; Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, 1819-1901 Sheet Title: Elwina Printer: Pitts, J. (London) Date: between 1819 and 1844 Imprint: Pitts, Printer, Toy and Marble Warehouse, 6, Great St. Andrew Street, Seven Dials Illus. Ballads on sheet: 8 Copies: Johnson Ballads fol. 114 Ballads: 1. Irish Molly, O! ("As I walk'd out one morning all in the month of May ...") 2. Jim along Josey ("Oh I'se from Lusiana, as you must all know ...") Subject: Blackface minstrelsy 3. The robbers of the glen ("Stand! stranger! stand! your jewels give ...") 4. How sweet it is to love ("Oh, how sweet it is to love ...") 5. Hail, to thee, Tyrol! ("Hail to thee, Tyrol! dear native Tyrol! ...") Subject: Tyrol, the 6. My dear native isle ("Dear native isle, the summer sun is glowing ...") 7. My own dear home ("Wherever I wander, wherever I stray ...") Subject: Marriage 8. The fisher boat ("No reefer struts upon the deck ...") Author: Green, T.W. Subject: Fishermen Printer: King, T. (Birmingham) Date: c.1845 Imprint: Printed by T. King, Birmingham, and sold by Mr. Green, at his Music Stall, near the Turnpike, City Road, London Ballads on sheet: 1 Note: Cropped top edge; lacks title Copies: Johnson Ballads 1431 Ballads: 1. [London exhibitions] ("The names of two great warriors, whom here you may seee [sic] ...") To the tune of: Jim along Josey Subject: Entertainments; Indians of North America; Madame Tussaud's |
Subject: Lyr Add: JIM ALONG JOSIE (Play-party song) From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Oct 02 - 02:04 AM Tom Glazer's Treasury of Folk Songs has it as a play-party song: Hey Jim Along, Jim Along Josie, Click to playSomewhat similar text in the Handy Play-Party Book which cites its source as Katherine F. Rohrbough of Greene County, New York, about 1870.
Hey, Jim along, Jim along Joe! Any pretty girl that wants a beau, sing, Hey, Jim along, Jim along Joe! Click to playHere are the dance instructions: FORMATION: The Virginia Reel formation: four to six couples, boys in one line, facing partners in opposite line. ACTION: Old Virginia Reel figures used. Preceding the individual action the lines all advance and go through the first 5 movements with partners opposite. All clap the first note of each 8 beats. All clap in time to the refrain. Movements are summarized here:
-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Oct 02 - 01:57 AM From American Memory: Jim along Josey -- Old rosin the bow -- The log hut. CREATED/PUBLISHED Baltimore: F. D. Benteen and Co., 1852. Jim along Josey. [the same edition as the first of the listed above] CREATED/PUBLISHED New York: Firth and Hall, 1840. |
Subject: RE: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: masato sakurai Date: 15 Oct 02 - 01:47 AM From the Levy Collection: Title: Jim Along Josey. Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Arranged for the Piano Forte, By An Eminent Professor. Publication: New York: Firth & Hall, No.1 Franklin Sq., 1840. Form of Composition: strophic with chorus Instrumentation: piano and voice First Line: Oh! I'se from Lucianna as you know, Dar whare Jim along Josey's all de go First Line of Chorus: Hey get along, get along Josey Hey get along Jim along Joe! Performer: As Sung by Mr. John N. Smith Subject: African Americans Subject: Caricatures Subject: Clothing & dress Subject: George Washington Subject: Martin Van Buren Subject: Ethnic stereotypes Subject: Dialects Call No.: Box: 020 Item: 005 Title: Jim Along Josey! The Very Celebrated & Popular American Melody. Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: na Publication: London S. Duncomble, 10 Middle Row, Holborn, n.d.: , . Form of Composition: strophic with chorus Instrumentation: piano and voice First Line: I hab cum from Lussianni so straight and slick, Dars where Jim along Joseys all de kick First Line of Chorus: Hey get along, get along Josey, hey get along, Jim along Joe As Sung at all the Lond & New York Theatres, Concerts, etc., by every Popular Comedian and Comic Singer with the Encore Verses, Now first Published Subject: African Americans Subject: Caricatures Subject: Dancing Subject: Courtship & love Subject: Actors Subject: Ethnic stereotypes Subject: Dialects Title: Hey! Get Along Rosy! Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: na Publication: New York: Firth & Hall, No.1 Franklin Square, n.d.. Form of Composition: strophic Instrumentation: piano and voice First Line: The poets say that posies Can wreath love's magic spell But this beats all the roses First Line of Chorus: Hey get along, get along Rosey; Hey get along get along do. Performer: The Popular Air Sung by Mrs. Timm, in Beaty & the Beast, To the Air of "Jim Along Josey." Engraver, Lithographer, Artist: Fleetwoods litho. Subject: Portraits Subject: Courtship & love Title: Ethiopian Quadrilles. (1) Goin Ober De Mountin; (2) Jonny Boker; (3) De Old Jaw Bone; (4) Jumbo Jum; (5) Jim Along Josey. Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Arranged By A. Nagerj Onyqjva. Publication: New York: Firth & Hall, 239 Broadway, 1843. Form of Composition: sectional Instrumentation: piano Performer: Danced and Sung by the Virginia Minstrels Engraver, Lithographer, Artist: Sett.; Lith. of Endicott Subject: African Americans Subject: Caricatures Subject: Dancing Subject: Singing Subject: Musicians Subject: Flatboats Subject: Farms Subject: Bodies of water Subject: Arguments Subject: Crocodiles Subject: Fish Ethnic stereotypes Call No.: Box: 017 Item: 033 Subject: Clothing & dress Call No.: Box: 017 Item: 103 Call No.: Box: 017 Item: 111 ~Masato |
Subject: Lyr Add: JIM ALONG JOSIE From: GUEST,Richie Date: 15 Oct 02 - 01:38 AM Lyr Add: JIM ALONG JOSIE I'se from Lucianna as you all know, Dar whare Jim Along Josey's all de go, Dem niggars all rise when de bell does ring, And dis is de song dat dey do sing. Chorus: Hey get along, get along Josey, Hey get along, Jim along Joe. Hey get along, get along Josey, Hey get along, Jim along Joe. Oh! When I get dat new coat I expects to hab soon, Likewise new pair tight-kneed trousaloon, Den I walk up and down Broadway wid my Suzanna, And the white folks will take me to be Santa Anna. Chorus My sister Rose de oder night did dream, Dat she was floating up and down de stream, And when she woke she began to cry, And de white cat picked out de black cat's eye. Chorus Now way down south, not very far off, A bullfrog died wid de hooping cough, And de other side of Mississippi as you must know, Dare's where I was christen'd Jim Along Joe. Chorus: De niggers think dey're fine, Because dey drink de genuine De southern niggers dey lib on mush, And laugh when dey say, "Oh hush!" Chorus: I'm de nigger dat don't mind my troubles, Because dey are not'ing more dan bubbles, De ambition dat dis nigger feels, Is showing the science of his heels. Chorus De fust President we eber had was Gen'ral Washington, And de one we got now is Martin Van Buren, But altho' Gen'ral Washington's dead, As long as de country stands his name shall float ahead. Chorus Notes: Minstrel Lyrics of Jim along Josey. New York: Firth and Hall, 1840. |
Subject: Jim Along Josie: lyrics and origin From: GUEST,Richie Date: 15 Oct 02 - 01:34 AM Are the "Jim Along Josie/Josey" lyrics related to several songs including "Limber Jim/Buck-Eyed Jim," "Cotton-Eyed Joe," "Jaybird Died of the Whoopin' Cough?" Here is a verse of the 1840 Minstrel lyrics: Now way down south, not very far off, A bullfrog died wid de hooping cough, And de other side of Mississippi as you must know, Dare's where I was christen'd Jim Along Joe. One 1853 version: "Here come a little gal wid a josey on;" (using the word, josey, as a type of under garment). Any more info on this? Other versions of Jim Along Josie? Thanks, Richie |
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