BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Metchosin
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 03:09 PM

and don't you just love those ceramic stoppers on the old Grolsch beer bottles.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Peace
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 03:07 PM

American beer has an undeserved reputation for being bad. Some is, but Coor's is nice when one is really thirsty and prepared to drink a few dozen. The light Coor's should go back to the horse it came from, but the other ain't bad.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Metchosin
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 03:04 PM

come to think of it, aside from my interest in widgets, there's something pretty wonderful about any beer whose brewing is judged by how well it adheres a three legged stool to the backside of your lederhosen.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: mike the knife
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 01:32 PM

OK, There are so many- differing moods, differing locales denote a variety of bevvies. Samuel Smiths: Wonderful Stuff. An old roommate & I referred to it a "payday beer" because it was the only time we could afford it. About $10.00 a six-pack in the late 80's- available then only in a local deli (I know we were getting a screwing). Guinness: Oh yeah. My "go to" beer when out & about. Bass Ale: Usually in the 'fridge when found on sale. The Belgians: Too many to mention, but the ones that are readily available (here anyway) are Chimay, Orval, Duvel (wicked stuff that) Belgian beers are marvelously complex- so many varieties. The Germans: Disclosure Statement: I worked as a bartender in a couple of different bars in Germany (Heidelberg & Berlin) and have to recuse myself from discussions involving German beers. The only thing I have to say is that it is WRONG WRONG WRONG to put a slice of Lemon in a Hefeweizen. Lemon slices are only for Kristallweizen. Also, Hefeweizen should only be served from the bottle, poured properly into its specified glass. Hefeweizen from a keg is somehow not right. End of rant.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 11:42 AM

Old Peculiar Theakstons brewery excellent grog...I could name more but I've developed a thirst Bye hic..

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 11:40 AM

Murphy's Double Chocolate Stout

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 11:25 AM

Always trust Madonna's judgement.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:41 AM

These days in England, "Real Ale" is vitually synonomous with "Draught Bitter" - OK I know that we have Milds, Olds, and Stouts as well. The point that I wanted to make is that before WW1, the most popular beer drunk have probably have been Porter which was somewhere between an Old and a Stout. Wartime shortages were responsible for Breweries producing IPA (which needed less barley) as a draught rather than bottled beer. The drink caught on as did a lighter bottled equivalent - pale (or light) ale. For the drinkers who preferred a darker beer, draught mild, and bottled brown ale were produced. Most of these are still available - and several breweries produce a Porter.

Does any one know of a brewery which still produces a (southern style) Bottled Brown Ale ? - I'm not including Newcastle Brown Ale which is a rather different drink. It used to be wonderful in casseroles, welsh rarebits and had many uses - a brown and bitter was a much tastier drink than a light and bitter. I always used keep a quart bottle (with a rubber screw top) around - it lasted for ages.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:17 AM

Timothy Taylors must be the best beer in the world because Madonna
drinks it.
When I first heard that snippet of information I nearly gave it up.
DESPITE Madonna it is the best beer in England, I live ten miles from the brewery
eric

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Peg
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 01:04 AM

Samuel Smith's. Only thing better than what comesin the bottle is what comes out of the tap, where you can get it on draught (sadly, not in the States).
The Chandos pub in Trafalgar Square has the Extra Reserve Bitter, and Samuel Smith's CIDER. Hoo boy.
In bottles here I can get most of them. I like the organic lager, and the pale ale.
Have been getting more of a taste for ales and lagers and pilsners, recently, for some reason...

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Cluin
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 11:29 PM

I like the Guinness, sure. But tasting it in Ireland sort of spoiled me for drinking it anywhere else. It really IS better there.

For a good drinking beer though, you can't beat Keith's.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 11:12 PM

Ballard Bitter? "Ya sure-Ya betcha"!...so THAT'S what happened to it!

so far, ClaireBear, Gareth and Don Firth have mentioned really decent beer....(well, Anchor Steam, too, yeah...sorta)....most of the rest is just 'well-known beer'! No..being famous does NOT necessarily mean good..*grin*

There IS no one 'best', just like there is no best song. It's what you're in the mood for...and there are amazingly good choices on most categories..
Maybe Sam Smith's Ol Brewery Pale Ale, or Orval Trappist Ale or Thomas Hardy's or the almost impossible to find Celis Grand Cru or something like Riggwelter Ale from England would be right up there at the top...along with 40-50 others..

I have 'about' 800 bottles in my collection, all emptied by ME in the last 25 years since I discovered GOOD beer. My first really good beer was a German DoppleBock, and soon after that I had a New Albion Porter from the first American micro-brewery to start up in ages! (1977, I think)(that bottle is probably a real collectors item)...and away we went!

I love the weird beer/ale (Red Beer and Bios Copper Ale)from Belgium, the dark Bocks from Germany, and the lovely things with LOTS of hops from various new micro breweries in the USA, where you CAN now get great beer if you're willing to look! (and in Washington State, or California, it's easier.)

too many choices!

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:51 PM

Don Firth: Ballard Bitter might be Red Hook ESB (Extra Special Bitter) rather than their IPA. I don't remember BB as being as hoppy as the IPA. I have an old "Ballard Bitter/Ya Shure, ya betcha" t-shirt around somewhere. Maybe I'll grow back into it someday.

I had a Bridgeport Ebenezer Holiday Ale (Portland, Oregon) for an afternoon snack and a Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout with supper. Why drink Guiness when you can get a good stout?

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:44 PM

Gareth, thanks for the info.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:42 PM

Guinness... Easy as that...

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Beer
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:18 PM

Tried quite a number in my travels and stays across Canada, but I have to go with Keith's at the moment. Started out with good old home brew ( malt beer)then to Labette's 50 and others. Right now I have a Bud in my eye ( 5% Canadian). Makes a big difference from the American Bud.
   Bottom line. If it's free I'll drink it. If I'm buying, Keith's from Nova Scotia, Blue or Bub.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 08:51 PM

Totally decent, man! I will be waitin right here, eh? Bring some smokes if ya got any. Players Lite.

- BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: GUEST,Joe from Espanola
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 08:48 PM

Hey Shane, how's it goin eh? It's dullsville in Espanola tonight, man. What say I fire up the snowmobile and we go over to Serpent River and score some good weed?

JOe

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 08:44 PM

Flippin A, man! Now yer talkin! Beer is probally the greatest thing in life, although sex is not bad. sex and beer together are cool too, eh?

Okay. I tend to favor Brador and Ex but My number #1 is Molson Canadian! I betcha Don Cherry dont' drink nothin else but Canadian, eh? May I menshun that American beer stinks?

However I will take what I can get if I am like short know what I mean? Any port in a storm, but make mine beer. Port is too sweet.

I have drank more beer at one time thatn ang9ne else I know not 3excapeting mty Brohter Don (the idiot) who clamie s he can outdrink me but he lies! Like a rug.

Life begins with beer, continues with beer, and ends with beer. That is my opinoin and I will stand by it. Or sit. Or wahtever.

- BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 08:10 PM

Elephant!

It's Carlsberg's (Denmark) strongest lager. At 7.5% alcohol, here in the States it has to be labeled "Malt Liquor". They used to export it from Denmark, but for a couple of years now it's been brewed under license by Labatt's in Canada.

If you like the taste of classic lager, such as Beck's or Heineken or the original, Pilsner Urquell, Elephant kicks it up a few notches, but it's still well-balanced, by which I mean it's neither too sweet nor too bitter.

I'm having one as I type!

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 07:56 PM

Hey, Tony works fir me. I hadn't heard about Saddam and Osoma but, hey, I don't read "People" magazine.... Man, I'm fallin behind....

Has anyone invited DougR and his bud, T-Bird?

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 07:45 PM

According to "News of the Week" Saddam and Osma are dancing in tutus in their little love nest. They're married, you know. And this TRUE because it was in a newspaper I saw as I was waiting in line in the supermarket.

Saddam's out, then. How about Tony Blair?

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 07:14 PM

Ahhhhh, I heard that there's was gonna be a "Bush screwing". Where and when and can we bring coolers? Ahhhhh, as fir the beer, as long as it's cold it'll taste mighty good watchin' Bush get what he been so good at givin'.....

Ahhhhh, I personally like "Natural Light" because it's cheap but my couzin Rufus say's it tastes like dog pee. He drinks Iron City? Go figure?....

Bobert

P.S. Ahhhhh, who the unlucky person who has to do the deed on Bush??? I personally nominate Saddam... Now that would *be* a show!

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 07:04 PM

Don

IPA = "India Pale Ale" A brew designed to survive the shippment of beer from 'Blighty' to India to hit the thirst of "Tommy".

To survive in palletable form, it had :-

1/. A Heavey Alchol Content.

2/. Was highly hopped (hop oils being a preservative.

The classic IPA was very bitter and sharp, with a good body (thick texture) and had most of the maltose and sucrose fermented out.

Charringtons (London Brewers) did a very good and sharp real version (cask ale), and I hope still do. Tho I have not been on the beer in London for 10 years or so !

Mind you thier Burton brewed version "Bass IPA" is still available in South Wales. - Cos I've just sunk three pints.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 06:46 PM

Ballard Bitter.

It vanished from the stores, and even though I looked for it desparately, it appeared that it had been discontinued. Couldn't figure that, because it's great beer. Some folks who are into "lite" beers didn't like it because it socks you in the teeth and puts hair on your chest, so I figured Red Hook had wimped out. Not so! As a result of this thread, I did some heavy googling, and discovered that it's still out there!!! The Powers that Be at Red Hook breweries felt that if they were going to market it nationally, not enough people would know who, what, or where Ballard is. Actually, it's the northeast quadrant of Seattle, where Red Hook got started. So they changed the name to Red Hook IPA. Dunno what "IPA" stands for. But IT STILL EXISTS! I've seen it in the stores but I didn't know that's what it was!

Thanks, brucie, for starting this thread. I shall lift a glass in your honor. Maybe even a couple. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: MarkS
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 06:34 PM

Anchor Steam - Made in San Francisco.
No competition!!

And this thread is much better than talking about our fearless leader.

Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 04:34 PM

Nah ! One of the best things to come out of England is Sheppard Neane's "Spifire Bitter". Sharp taste and texture. Reasonable strength.

But each to thier own choice.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Metchosin
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 04:24 PM

I really like Kilkenny Irish Cream Ale but part of that could be that I am intrigued by the widget in the can.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 04:23 PM

Alaska Amber, Fat Tire, Black Butte, Moose Drool, Polygamy, Wiederman's, Guinness, Murphy's, Smithwicks, Labat, Moosehead, Sam Adams, Sierra Nevada, Firehouse, Pete's, Nut Brown Ale, and others (even Budweiser).

Dick Brothers, Griesedieck, Atlas Praeger, Busch Bohemian, Stag, all of sainted memory.

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 04:00 PM

... and since I know nothing about beer, I'll have to sample a bit of everyone else's!

Wait I DO know one thing about beer. Mudcatters bring it to Mudcat Gatherings and leave a lot of it at our house when they go home, I guess because they think they should not drink it all up in front of my pastor hubby, so Gatherings are a good time for us, especially AFTER!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:56 PM

No, let's drink beer while someone else screws Bush, then talk (and drink) more beer.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: GUEST,ClaireBear
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:37 PM

Red Hook ESB for my money. Also Sierra Nevada Pale Bock, but that's almost impossible to find.

I used to be able to get a bottled English beer -- I think it was called Old Chester -- that was the only malt beverage I'd evcer had that could be classified as psychotropic . . . but that's not PRECISELY the same as good.

Claire

Subject: RE: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Amos
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:35 PM

Tell ya what, Brucie -- you go screw Bush, and we'll sit around and talk beer.

I await your report with 'bated breath!

A

Subject: BS: Screw Bush: Let's Talk Beer
From: Peace
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:29 PM

I understand that beer is a national institution in Europe. So, in an effort to get a serious thread going, what is and who makes the best commercial beer in the whole world? Forget micro-breweries and homemade. We're talkin' commercial--comes in a bottle or can, buy it at the generic jar store (liquor outlet). This could include stout, beer, ale. So?