BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 May 05 - 06:28 AM

BTW Joe - it is Globish as in Globe, and it doesn't shine as in Glow

the words I used for sing(ing) were voice music. "Basic" doesn't go low enough

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 May 05 - 06:20 AM

I will try it on Sir John,

sort of giving it Hull?

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 May 05 - 06:18 AM

I have written a Word macro that checks all words agains the lexicon, (red for not, black for yes)and even blue if it might be plural or past tense.

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: mooman
Date: 25 May 05 - 05:37 AM

Mr Red

(a short extract from your site)

PEL --- Public music law (law that cost money)- stupid law it prevent the voice of real people who like the music of society for no more reward than they can make music for free

Are we sure Globish wasn't invented by the brilliant mind of Sir jOhn9?

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 25 May 05 - 03:55 AM

This Wikipedia
article is about Basic English, that was used for many years by the BBC World Service for some broadcasts. One problem was that English English speakers didn't often stick to the rules when talking to Basic English speakers.

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 25 May 05 - 01:11 AM

Sounds like if they keep at it they'll invent Basic English.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 25 May 05 - 01:08 AM

Spanish and Italian are far sexier than French, which makes you sound congested.

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 May 05 - 11:55 PM

There is in fact a subset of English called (brilliantly) "International English" that is mandatory for writing of operation and maintenance manuals for many products produced for US Military, FAA, and NATO use. The vocabulary is strictly limited to a specified set of words, and my recollection is that it's only a very few (2 or 3?) thousand words. It appears that NATO agreements were the source for the idea, although I've never seen a detailed history of it.

The principal "rule" in application of this language is that any "object" must be described by one, and only one, word. Sometimes the rule is even observed, although I've seen manuals where the same part was the "generator," "alternator," "converter," "rectifier," and a couple of other odd ones within the space of a few pages. Even that is better than one author of note who used five different names for the same computor function in the same paragraph, and wondered why the proof/edit guys objected.

The vocabulary of a few thousand words is, properly used, sufficient to describe most machines and machine functions pretty clearly. Trying to describe any social, sexual, or emotional subject with a vocabulary that limited would make everyone sound like Kansas Baptists.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 05 - 08:33 PM

Is that GLOWB-is, or GLOB-ish?
American wants to know.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: PoppaGator
Date: 24 May 05 - 07:16 PM

The way I heard it, Spanish Is The Loving Tongue...

Each to his/her own, of course; whatever floats yer boat!

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: CarolC
Date: 24 May 05 - 07:12 PM

But French is still the language of luuuv. My husband courted me in French, and it made all the difference.

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: PoppaGator
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:52 PM

I dunno how that posted twice...

In high school, I studied two languages that were supposed to be more "international" than English ~ not just Latin, but French as well. The notion that French was the essential language of international diplomacy was already a good half-century out of date back then, and of course by now it's an absolute joke.

Spanish would certainly be much more practical than either, certainly here in the Western Hemisphere, and the next-most-universal languages would have to be Japanese and Chinese.

Japanese is currently a bit more important for international commerce, but gazillions of Chinese will sooner or later make their presence felt on the World Wide Web and in the 3D world as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: John Routledge
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:36 PM

Thanks for the reminder PoppaGator :0)

I was persuaded to learn Latin at school because it would then be easier for me to learn Esperanto when it became the world language.!!

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: PoppaGator
Date: 24 May 05 - 06:27 PM

I guess they finally gave up on Esperanto; good idea!

Actually, various forms of English (from pidgin to US-Standard) have been serving as our planet's de facto global language for centuries, ever since Britannia began to rule the waves. By the time the British Empire's influence began to fade, the American Century was well underway, and technological/economic imperialism has taken over for political rule.

In the science-fiction novels of Orson Scott Card, a slightly-simplified version of English called "Common" is the univeral language of a human race scattered over many planets. I just read a passage in Shadow of the Giant where one character chides another for incorrect grammar: in self-defense, the accused person says "But I wasn't speaking English, I was speaking Common; the word "whom" does not exist in Common."

Subject: RE: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: GUEST
Date: 24 May 05 - 05:24 PM

Language - The Best Weapon

Subject: BS: Any one speak Globish? This is serious..
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 May 05 - 04:43 PM

I heard a program on the radio where Jean-Paul Nerrière http://www.jpn-globish.com was proposing a cut-down English as a lingua Franca (ha!). He calls it Globish. His website doesn't use it! all in French.

On the principle that non-Anglophones learn just enough because everyone else does. So he has set a standard lexicon of 1500 words that will get you by. It is not easy to write in it - I have a page on my website as a "rest of world" FAQ translation. I have chosen the UN flag as the icon - best I could think of.

I even wrote a Word Macro to check if the writing is in the Globish. I will post that maybe.

If anyone has a look at cresby.com see what I had to do with a language that has no words like song or singing. All criticisms gratefully recieved.