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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 06 Feb 06 - 06:21 PM There is no point discussing morals in a whorehouse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Bardford Date: 06 Feb 06 - 06:13 PM Here's the CBC Talking about Emerson's big switcheroo: In changing parties, he followed the example of former Conservative MP Belinda Stronach, who crossed the floor last year to become a Liberal cabinet minister. At that time, Harper said: "We don't go out of our way to romance MPs to get them to cross the floor. Liberals will do anything to win. "We are trying to create a principled party where people act in a principled way, and obviously we're fairly cautious about encouraging party jumping, because that's the kind of thing that generates cynicism. "And frankly, when someone jumps, once you're not sure you can trust them the next time, so I would always handle that with an extraordinary degree of caution." At least Belinda waited a couple of Mississippi's before she crossed the floor - looks like yer man in Vancouver probably had his cellphone out before his election office coffee maker was packed up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Metchosin Date: 06 Feb 06 - 03:48 PM Somminey beech! Emerson just abandoned the Libs for a Cabinet post with Conservatives. I don't imagine there are too many happy campers in Vancouver Kingsway right now..... the voters definitely did not want a Conservative in that riding, they ran 3rd in the election to the Liberals and the NDP. Of course I've never believed there was much difference between the Libs and Cons, so the voters definitely got what was paid for. Too bad too. Wadell of the NDP, being bilingual and a strong voice for the arts and the environment would have been a better choice. But then the voters of that riding took their chance in strategic voting trying to keep the Conservatives out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:59 PM Dammit. I woulda screwed up for half what he was paid and settled for have what he was awarded. Coulda saved the taxpayer lotsa bucks there. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:40 PM Paid off for not doing your job... sweet Jaysus. I'll bet the fucker sleeps really well at night, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 06 - 05:36 PM "The federal government has paid David Dingwall, the former president of the Royal Canadian Mint, a compensation package for his forced resignation. The government said it is following a binding arbitration ruling by paying Dingwall, also a one-time Liberal cabinet minister, $417,780 along with associated pension benefits." I will sleep easier tonight not having to worry that David is doing without. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:43 PM A Con who never voted Con in his life? hehehe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:36 PM I saw that. And thought "Gee, Bruce must be older than I thought. Senility has begun to set in. I knew he was a westerner, but..." ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:26 PM Yeah. I know. I was fartin' around somewhere and I posted that I am a Conservative. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:20 PM It wouldn't be the first time my past has come back to haunt me, Peace. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:16 PM I have that post tucked away for future reference, Cluin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:13 PM Damn! I can't believe I ended up defending Stephen Harper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:12 PM Never happen. Like I said... you will not allow it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 04 Feb 06 - 04:06 PM Cluin and Dave - I didn't say I hated Harper or that he was sociopath. If anything, I fear him. I do think he has a neo-con agenda and deserves the nick-name, 'wooden man'. Give him a chance to do what? Outlaw abortion? Outlaw same sex marriage? Sell our resources to the U.S. without a comprehensive Canadian energy policy? Reduce social services benefits? Introduce private health care? Increase military spending? What else should we give him a chance to do? No thanks. Give him an inch and he'll take a mile. Like I said, without a minority government, he would be alot more dangerous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 04 Feb 06 - 03:47 PM I know this is a Canuck thread, but... since the Yanks are also picking a new leader soon... maybe we could broaden the discussion? Well, tell me what you think. Should a new thread be opened to discuss the next Yankee Pres? To wit... Today, a snippet.... Rumsfeld said... "The Iranian regime is today the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism," he said. "The world does not want, and must work together to avoid, a nuclear Iran." Despite Rumsfeld's call for diplomacy, McCain said military action could not be ruled out if diplomatic efforts fail to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. "Every option must remain on the table," McCain told the security conference after Rumsfeld spoke. "There's only one thing worse than military action, that is a nuclear-armed Iran." "The Arizona Republican later added that military action is "totally undesirable" and could be considered only after all other options were exhausted." Looks clear to me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 04 Feb 06 - 03:39 PM "at least he isnt a theif like the Liberals." We don't know THAT yet, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 04 Feb 06 - 03:32 PM Besides, that's a pretty shallow assessment of a man's character, dianavan. Just because he doesn't put on a show for the cameras of being all Pa Ingalls with his kids doesn't make him a blatant sociopath. We might as well give him a chance. It's not like we have any choice anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 03 Feb 06 - 06:08 AM dianavan, The whole thing was a media event unplanned I believe. Kids faced with cameramen and the new experience of security guards are going to act differently. Your hatred of Harper is literally media indoctrination get over it and give him a chance; at least he isnt a theif like the Liberals. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 02 Feb 06 - 07:22 PM Even when the kid is seven years old? I'm a teacher and I've never seen a dad shake his daughter's hand. Maybe we're just more affectionate on the westcoast. I'm glad my dad wasn't afraid to express affection for me. As far as Harper goes, if he cannot freely express his affection toward his own children, I think it says alot about his ability to empathize with Canadians. I don't think he's a mutant but I do think he is a 'wooden' man, a cold man, capable of almost anything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 02 Feb 06 - 06:27 PM I was being deliberately facetious re the abuse thing, dianavan. (though some deranged people do imagine perversion and abuse in the most innocent circumstances) But not everybody is huggy-kissy with their kids. I know plenty of guys who insist on an old-school handshake with their young sons instead of a big sloppy kiss (except when they're drunk ;) ). It doesn't make them mutants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,dianvan Date: 02 Feb 06 - 05:58 PM That last message was mine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST Date: 02 Feb 06 - 05:35 PM Cluin - I doubt if giving your elementary school children a hug as they leave for school would ever be construed as sexual abuse. Dave, kids that young are still pretty attached to their parents. I doubt if they were worried about their image. A hug or a pat on the back would seem appropriate. Shaking hands with a child is stilted. Cluin - You're right about political leaders who screw it up for the next guy. That is equally true of politicians who take credit for a healthy economy that was the result of fiscal policies introduced by their predecessors. Too often, current politicians reap the benefits of past practices and gloat as if they were in some way responsible. Peace - I would hang Harper based on the statements he has made in the past (see the above link). I doubt if he has changed his opinions significantly. The only thing that will keep him in check is the opposition. I'm just thankful that its a minority govt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 02 Feb 06 - 04:11 PM He didn't want to be accused of sexual abuse, dianavan. While I'm no big fan of the man or most of his policies, for some people, he just can't do anything right. I find more and more as I get older, I find things in all of the political parties I agree with, but none of them completely. In the good old days, the Liberals were about a balance (in a sense, more conservative, than the Conservatives). I also don't understand why outgoing party leaders feel it's necessary to screw things up for the next leader who follows. Chretien buggered things up for Martin; Trudeau did it for Turner; Mulroney did it for Campbell... Priorities sure are screwed up in Ottawa. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 02 Feb 06 - 04:08 PM At this point it is early to hang Harper--just as it is early to sanctify him. IMO, of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 02 Feb 06 - 04:00 PM A lot of children dont like being hugged in public places with friends and other kids around. Definately not in a school playground with other kids watching. They will avoid it like the plague when TV camera's are shoved into their daily routine too. But then you might not have experienced that yourself...Even Harper was uncomfortable being followed by media to his kids school (hardly news is it?) Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:55 PM Harper cemented his image of the 'wooden man' when he used his children for a photo op. Instead of kissing them as they left for school, he shook their hands! What kind of father shakes hands with his children? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Cluin Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:52 PM In my memory, the only politician who ever did what he said he was going to do was Mike Harris. More's the pity. Years ago I used to think we did best in Ontario with a Conservative provincial government and a Liberal federal one (though I usually voted NDP because I liked the local candidates). That was before Mike Harris and Jean Chretien. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:41 PM This is an opportunity for Harper to demonstrate leadership, bring the four major factions together and accomplish something with this country. If he can do that without selling us to the US, without selling our health care system to drug companies and private corporations, do so and unite this place, then I will vote for him next time 'round. I am 58. Been voting since I was 18. Have NEVER voted Conservative in my life. I hope Harper's the first. I don't think he will be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 02 Feb 06 - 03:29 PM The Liberals are now working on either a sacrificial lamb (sorry, leader) so that they can execute him later and loudly proclaim Jean Charest (superman) as the saviour of Liberal Canada. Or waiting time to annoint Jean Charest as the replacement for Martin who must ignominiously slide into premature retirement. This will happen if and when the time is right; or when the Bloc start to get uppity again....You don't seriously think that Quebecers will allow anyone other than the Old Boys group to rule for long do you? Lets hope Harper does a really great job (despite the planned arrows and knives in the back) and gets re-elected with a majority next time...We live in hope. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Metchosin Date: 02 Feb 06 - 02:57 PM and BC..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 02 Feb 06 - 02:32 PM "That was Stockwell Day." We were so happy to have that idiot out of Alberta that sometimes we forget Ottawa got him instead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Charmion Date: 02 Feb 06 - 02:20 PM To return to a matter raised about 40 posts ago -- Mr. Harper's visit to hospital: Stephen Harper really is asthmatic; he's notorious for coming down with severe bronchitis precisely when his handlers want him out prancing for the public. An asthmatic with a chest cold often needs to go to the hospital even if he does have a family doctor -- that's where the X-Ray machine is, and the technician to operate it at nine o'clock at night. Even if we aren't too crazy about the Conservative Party, we must recognize Mr. Harper for what he is -- an economist with a serious calling to serve the public. He hasn't got horns, cloven hooves or a tail, and he isn't out to sell us all down the river. That was Stockwell Day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 02 Feb 06 - 02:05 PM For those of you who may not know Stephen Harper or understand why so many Canadians are concerned about his election as PM, take a look at some of his opinions: http://www.hedyfry.com/harpers_beliefs.php |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,Sergeant Preston Date: 01 Feb 06 - 01:40 PM It's time for Belinda... |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 31 Jan 06 - 05:41 PM Frank... No. John... NO. Brian... NO. Who will be the scrificial lamb? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: bobad Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:58 AM The next leader will have to clean house, rebuild, promise a new way to do politics, he's not going to be like the other guys and blah blah blah blah.......the same old bullshit all over again....IMO of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 31 Jan 06 - 10:14 AM I doubted Frank would run under these circumstances. Too many pitfalls await the next leader. I wonder if the convention will be delayed until 2007 now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 30 Jan 06 - 07:08 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 06 - 06:18 PM Oh WOW man... I see it too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:18 PM " |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:05 PM And, then what happened? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 30 Jan 06 - 04:46 PM "More glue." Kid walks into a corner store. Says, "Give me ten cents worth of jelly beans, five cents worth of jujubes, twenty cents worth of honeymoons, fifteen cents worth of bubblegum and 92 tubes of airplane glue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 06 - 04:34 PM Search error... ahhhh... very esoteric... allusionary perhaps? (yeah, I made that one up). More glue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 30 Jan 06 - 03:17 PM OK. Enough of this stuff. Here is a neat puzzle for y'all. www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/hara/fly.swf |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 06 - 03:06 PM Ah... Peace. I asked that very same question earlier. Do ya think he would pull a "Joe Who"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: Peace Date: 29 Jan 06 - 04:19 PM Harper who? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST Date: 29 Jan 06 - 02:54 PM The Chinese voted for Harper in large numbers because they are conservative by nature. Haven't you ever heard of the ethnic vote? |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 28 Jan 06 - 05:00 PM Good thinking on the part of the triage nurse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew Date: 28 Jan 06 - 04:53 PM "Hospital for a chest cold... perhaps he does not have a family doctor in Ottawa and went to the hospital like everyone else without a doc? We have about 3000 people here in Moncton without a family doc. Of course, you would think he could go to the local military doc." There are no local military docs available outside of duty hours. During silent hours, members of the CF go to the local ER with special Blue Cross cards. The surprising thing about Mr. Harper's visit to the ER at the Ottawa General is that it took him only an hour to get through it. My suspicion is that the staff wanted him out before the media made it a zoo. ABC |
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Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan From: gnu Date: 28 Jan 06 - 10:54 AM Ain't gonna happen. You, me and the rest of us won't let it happen. |
