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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: voyager Date: 03 Sep 07 - 03:00 PM Get-Away Attendees - I preferred the 'Cabin Jams' myself! Vaudeville + Traditional + Non-Traditional Music seems be part of the yearly program. As long as these tracks are clearly laid out then - For the benefit of Mr. Kite There will be a show tonight on trampoline The Hendersons will all be there Late of Pablo-Fanques Fair, what a scene Over men and horses hoops and garters Lastly through a hogshead of real fire! In this way Mr. K. will challenge the world! The celebrated Mr. K. Performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate The Hendersons will dance and sing As Mr. Kite flies through the ring don't be late Messrs. K and H. assure the public Their production will be second to none And of course Henry The Horse dances the waltz! The band begins at ten to six When Mr. K. performs his tricks without a sound And Mr. H. will demonstrate Ten somersets he'll undertake on solid ground 'ving been some days in preparation A splendid time is guaranteed for all And tonight Mr. Kite is topping the bill. A splendid time is guaranteed for all! voyager |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 02 Sep 07 - 03:59 PM well, it is good to be comparing notes and ...ummmm...'clearing the air'... Of course some liked ALL the productions of "The Ladies", and there is no pleasing some others...*wry grin*. I expect controlling the size & length and staying reasonably on topic will pacify, if not please, most folks.. And yes, indeed, there is always enough of whatever you DO like to occupy the mind and body, yea, unto the point of exhaustion. Onward... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 02 Sep 07 - 01:41 PM Dick, As the organizer of last year's "production", I am glad you and Bill stated your concerns. The responses were mixed. Frankly, given the stunned faces in the front row, I was shocked when several FSGW stalwarts asked to be included in the 2007 plans. Some loved it. For a variety of reasons the production grew like Topsy and had minimal rehearsal time. The theme was borderline "folk". The stage was miniscule compared to Ramblewood. Hopefully, your concerns will be addressed, the length and breadth of the extravanganza will be shortened and the theme kept closer to folk. The doowop/folk parodies I heard last year were brilliant. But if FSGW would prefer it be dropped, I don't think anyone will be devastated. Certainly it could be saved for a impromptu session after hours. And it won't dominate the Getaway. Actually I have spent the last week getting in contact with UKers, Aussie's and locals putting together stuff for my workshop. I have been contacted by others doing workshops who are looking for lyrics, CDs, names, etc. This Getaway will be another where you would need to be in three places at one time to get all the best of it. Mary |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: Jeri Date: 02 Sep 07 - 01:36 PM Dick, so far in THIS thread, ("these threads" - you meant this one thread, right?) you've contributed: "Maybe there should be a separate Getaway for Doo Wop?" and "Dammit. I remember back when the Getaway was about folk music." and "Just for clarity's sake-- Although I have no interest in the Doo=wop festivities, I have no objection to them--as long as they don't dominate the Getaway the way they seem to have dominated these threads." So all YOU'VE talked about is doo-wop. It's dominating the thread because it's what people, including yourself, want to talk about. If that's not accurate, what was it you meant to be discussing? I'm not that fond of doo-wop and becoming increasingly less so over time, but t's pointless to criticize people for not talking about what I want to talk about it, if I'm not even talking about it. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: dick greenhaus Date: 02 Sep 07 - 12:55 PM Just for clarity's sake-- Although I have no interest in the Doo=wop festivities, I have no objection to them--as long as they don't dominate the Getaway the way they seem to have dominated these threads. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 02 Sep 07 - 11:32 AM No problem, Amos. Actually I think it was KoKo which would explain why he thought it was a man. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Tinker Date: 02 Sep 07 - 08:58 AM Oh Janie..... I don't think you're out of it .... come on... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Tinker Date: 02 Sep 07 - 08:41 AM Like all good ideas, there is a fine line between pushing the limits and breaking the box. The fact that there wasn't an actual stage, and the number of people who really, really, really wanted to participate up to the last minute added to the confusion. If someone can produce ONE song that combines tradtional song and dop wop style, I have no doubt it can be arranged in a way that will be less confusing and chaotic, but still fun. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 02 Sep 07 - 12:51 AM Thanks for the clarification, Sins. I had missed Mick's remark. If you recall he was making frequent visits to a certain bureau drawer with a bottle of good bourbon in it back at that time, so it is not surprising his memories have sort of run together and gotten confused, like a bad dream just before a bad hangover. I think someone did try to French kiss him, but it sure was not me as I retired long before him. Remember he had a certain, um, difficulty entering and exiting his pony costume. Mebbe Kendall? And there were a lot of FSGW'ers who had been absolutely wowed by his baritone, singing "Ghost Riders'. so I guess it might have been one of those fayre lydies. I dunno. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Janie Date: 02 Sep 07 - 12:43 AM Pondering. Those of us galumping around in inflated horses had a grand time making fools of ourselves last year. However, I was very aware that the enthusiam of many in the audience did not match our own. There were more than a few stunned and incredulous faces looking back at us from the rows of chairs. I was in the audience for "All Around My Hat." My own reaction to it was that it was planful, choreographed, and somewhat rehearsed. The number of people in the cast was appropriately scaled to the space and the event, and the spirit of it was in sync with the Getaway. I was definitely entertained. I suspect that last year, many in the audience experienced the 'production' as simply startling and chaotic. We know that Bill is very involved with the active membership of FSGW, those folks in the DC area who regularly attend the song circles, open mikes, house concerts, etc. He is wonderfully tactful. I think he is trying to tell us that many people in the audience last year were not particularly amused by our antics. Which is another good excuse for me to avow that I ain't wearin' no poodle skirt. Janie |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: Jeri Date: 01 Sep 07 - 09:30 PM I volunteer to be in charge of hiding under my chair. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 01 Sep 07 - 09:14 PM Amos, Got the idea from Mick - August 31 7:18 PM. Did you really think that Mick wouldn't kiss and tell? Bill, Your points are well taken. The theme is folk doowop and the budding composers (at least volunteering last year) were FSGW people who had doowopped some traditional ballads like Barbara Allan. Charlie Baum has wisely scheduled The Ladies as the last act in past years so that it does not detract from other performers. Look carefully at Youtube - at least half of the menagerie is FSGW ladies. There would have been more but we ran out of costumes. Couldn't get any FSGW men to agree - remember Bill? heh heh This year, I am in the audience. Tinker says she is willing to coordinate. Jacqui is ready to help with costumes. Should be very creative and fun. And a little black leather eye candy can't hurt. SINS |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: katlaughing Date: 01 Sep 07 - 04:25 PM Bet you'll still be kicking up your legs...or at least cockin' them! BTW, Dick and Bill, when I said "skirt" I did NOT mean a poodle skirt!:-) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 07 - 04:18 PM It's not exactly a plan...more of a second nature kinda thing. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 01 Sep 07 - 04:08 PM So Mick and Amos plan to be dogging the wimmen, eh? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: Jeri Date: 01 Sep 07 - 03:47 PM I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by the production number stuff. Perhaps a time limit on concert performance spots might be in order, or put on the skit somewhere where it doesn't take over the concert. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 07 - 03:30 PM I think you're skirting the point, Bill. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 01 Sep 07 - 03:13 PM so...you two are gonna poodle your resources? Watch out, ladies! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Big Mick Date: 01 Sep 07 - 03:05 PM As to the poodle skirt, I told you already, you will have to show me a pistol, and convince me you are good enough with it to get me, before I slip my oversized behind into it....... ****chuckle**** As to assisting women out of theirs...................... I plead the Fifth. But let me know if business is so good that you need experienced assistance, Amos. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 07 - 02:56 PM SOme guys will do anything to get out of a poodle skirt. And some, of which I confess to having been one, will do anything to get a girl out of a poodle skirt. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Big Mick Date: 01 Sep 07 - 01:29 PM I'm glad you are bringing this up, Bill. I must admit, and I hope my very good friends understand, to being a bit concerned about how these productions are growing in scope. When the women did the "Ladies of the Night" skit a few years back, it was fun because of its spontaneous nature, and the personalities involved fit right in. But we need to go back a few years and remember (and be sensitive to) the misgivings that many FSGW'ers had about the influx of Mudcatters. They were concerned about the Getaway keeping its essential nature as a gathering of trad oriented Folk Music enthusiasts. Some felt like they were being taken over, invaded so to speak, by us. My opinion then, and now, is that was hogwash and that we Mudcatters were very inclusive (if they felt left out it was because they simply didn't join in), injected fresh takes on the music into the mix, not to mention the cash and help we brought to the fray. Our involvement brought new artists (such as Jed) and re-interested older artists (such as Rick) in the event. Our involvement had a great deal to do with overseas Mudcatters coming, as well as folks like KT, Ebbie, LEJ, and many others. Some of us have become FSGW'ers (like myself) and very proud of that membership. Having said that, it still seems very important to me that we, as Mudcatters, be very sensitive to those concerns and not exacerbate them. There is a fine line between "spicing up" and event, and taking it over and straying from its basic intent and purpose. I hope we are all well intentioned enough to give this some serious thought as we make our plans. It is, after all, a folk music gathering. FWIW, I love us doing our thing at the Friday night potluck. That is always so very much fun, and the good feelings at seeing old friends, and welcoming old friends never met, is so wonderful. Let's keep this discussion positive, OK friends? I don't post these comments to be inflammatory, rather to provoke some thoughts about the basic nature of what we are doing. This is THE gathering of the year for many of us. Let us make sure we are not doing anything to alienate ourselves or wear out our welcome. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 01 Sep 07 - 01:13 PM In my own, admittedly personal opinion.....We really should discuss and/or negotiate a bit about the 'production numbers', as I know I heard a wide range of opinions last year....several from local folks who do not even read Mudcat and were ummmmm...'startled' by the direction and length of the 'event' *grin* We have always had some occasional workshops, dances, impromptu 'happenings'..etc, that strayed from the general theme. With all the talent and eclectic folks we see, it is inevitable. This is by NO means meant to be a 'cease & desist' order...I don't HAVE that power....nor do I assume automatically that my feelings are in the majority....but we obviously have some 'mixed' reactions worth mulling over. What think ye? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 01 Sep 07 - 12:09 PM We gotta quit typing in invisible characters, Dick.... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: katlaughing Date: 01 Sep 07 - 11:46 AM |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: dick greenhaus Date: 01 Sep 07 - 11:31 AM Dammit. I remember back when the Getaway was about folk music. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: katlaughing Date: 01 Sep 07 - 03:24 AM Same here re' sizes, Genie, and I blame it all on Twiggy, though she does seem to have filled out nicely and I think the girls today have taken the anorexic look much more to the max! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 01 Sep 07 - 12:53 AM Now, pedal pushers (which I wore as a carhop circa 1956) I could still manage to come up with. Kat, hey, poodle skirts -- if they ever looked good on anyone -- really never looked all that hot on girls over about a size 8 (in 1950s sizing) anyway. (Slight tangent: Back in the day, I don't even remember any such thing as a "Size 1" or "Size 3." A "Size 4" was pretty teensy.) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: katlaughing Date: 01 Sep 07 - 12:47 AM I don't think I have anything left from the sixties, but I was only 7 when they started so...it would've been pedal-pushers or levis and cowboy boots anyway until '69 or so and I ain't putting my feet in those narrow-toed things ever again!**bg** Didja notice all of the new poodle skirts that seller has on ebay are all made for 2X and 3X; guess they must know their market.:-) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 01 Sep 07 - 12:32 AM Yeah, Kat. I still have a couple o' my sixties get-ups in my closets and cedar chests. (Not saying I can still get INTO 'em but ... .) But I've long since disposed of any garments I wore before about 1967. For good reason, methinks. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: katlaughing Date: 01 Sep 07 - 12:08 AM Leej and Spaw should be there for a jukebox doo-wop shindig! THIS ONE is going soon on ebay...only about 25 minutes left. There are 563 other "poodle skirt" listings on there, though! I'm with Amos...sixties all the way! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 31 Aug 07 - 10:51 PM No one even deigned to reply to Dick Greenhaus.... I wonder if anyone even took in the import. hmmmm? You may PM me if you don't wish to call me names in public...*grin* |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 31 Aug 07 - 10:45 PM Thanks for the enlightenment. I know remember why I couldn't wait for the Sixties to get here. Sins, you know I love Big Mick like a brother, but him and me, well, we are firmly committed to an agreement -- to stay a spud's length apart no matter how drunk we get. I really appreciate your, um, creative imagination, for want of the correct word. But you can strike that one off your list, and I am a bit bemused as to where you got it. But then, I remember it's you and I get on with life. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:36 PM Too bad Mousethief's not around here these days and coming to the Getaway. He did some wicked doo-wop at Camp Runamok back in 2002! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:15 PM I had forgotten about the torpedo/dixie cup bras worn under the sweaters. We may have a harder time finding those than the skirts. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:13 PM Here ya go, Amos. http://www.anniepoodleskirts.com/ It is a circular skirt usually felt with a poodle on a leash embroidered or pasted on at the bottom. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 31 Aug 07 - 08:56 PM This camp doesn't want to see an open bottle of beer and we're threatening them with a display of Big Mick and Amos kissing? The organizers may have something to say about this. Surprised Big Mick didn't... Tinker, If you want a tasteful prom dress, you are on your own. Jacqui and I specialize in frou-frou horrors tucked away in corners of thrift shops. Lots of ruffles and eyelets. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 31 Aug 07 - 08:55 PM Can anyone tell me why a poodle skirt is called a poodle skirt? The one shown in Vintageous has no poodles on it, does not look like a poodle, and would not fit a poodle. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Tinker Date: 31 Aug 07 - 08:33 PM Mary can you find me something like this ???? But a tad bigger of course Mick this may take a few alterations, but if we start now ..... Boy are you all lucky I'm broke ... Now who is composing the song ??? Barry can you come up with a do-wop work song ??? I'll work on getting you all simple, simple choreography .... (She says with glee) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 31 Aug 07 - 08:07 PM How much cleavage were you showing, Mick? (Maybe that could have explained it.) *g* Then again, maybe it was the kilt? Or, did you happen to be playing a banjo? I hear tell ol' Amos and Hugh (The Banjoest) have felt like they both needed a cigarette after a hot jam session in Balboa Park (when it was jes' th' two of 'em thar). Genie |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: dick greenhaus Date: 31 Aug 07 - 08:02 PM Maybe there should be a separate Getaway for Doo Wop? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Big Mick Date: 31 Aug 07 - 07:18 PM Genie ..... as much as I want to meet you, share a song or two .... it just ain't gonna happen. Last time I showed up in a page boy hairdo, Amos tried to french kiss me. I think he's gay .... not that there's anything wrong with that ..... Mick |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Genie Date: 31 Aug 07 - 06:39 PM If Big Mick will wear a poodle skirt and page boy hairdo, I'll wear a black leather jacket, jeans, and an Elvis D. A, hairdo! ;-D |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Bill D Date: 31 Aug 07 - 05:06 PM (maps..and directions ....and pictures .....and disclaimers ....and other data...will be posted as it approaches..) |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Amos Date: 31 Aug 07 - 04:19 PM Robinia: The campsite is about 45 minutes or less from BWI airport. A loverly weekend not to be missed. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Date: 31 Aug 07 - 03:34 PM I always WANTED to wear a poodle skirt. My Nana, who would have made such things, decided to make me (and my mother) grey circular skirts with crystal raindrops and little umbrellas instead. My mother didn't wear hers! I sort of liked mine, but I WANTED A POODLE SKIRT! And now I get to make one myself, or scour the vintage places in Takoma Park MD. So of COURSE I'm in. What, miss the chance to appear in some silly costume? And forever on Youtube? But I don't want to be leader of the pack - just a gal in the chorus. Hopefully it won't be 95 degrees in the room this year! --Linda |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Par From: jacqui.c Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:59 AM Janie - I'll show mine if you'll show yours. I'm talking about LEGS! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: SINSULL Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:37 AM OK so that's Barry in a pink sequin poodle skirt, Mick in a DA (let's hope he is better at a duck's ass than he was as a horse's) and Janie in a frou-frou floor length prom gown. Any preference for color Janie? Bring your own pumps - those are shoes Barry not nautical. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Barry Finn Date: 31 Aug 07 - 03:17 AM Hi robinia If you go to the top of this page, under the title of this thread you'll see 5 links that will help you to get a feel for this years up coming Getaway. What I copied & pasted below will give you help on your questions but I'm sure some one will be better at directly answering them & I believe there's a good bit of space left. Hopefully we'll see you there. It is a very welcoming group. If you google "FSGW Getaway" you'll also be taken to the Folk Society of Greater Washington DC's site where there's also info. Good luck Barry Subject: RE: 2007 FSGW Getaway-November 2-5, 2007 From: Charlie Baum - PM Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:40 PM Genie-- We're not quite ready to handle registration for the 2007 FSGW Getaway just yet. The costs will be about the same as last year--and depend on (1) how much of the weekend you stay for, (2) whether you're a member of (or join) FSGW, (3) if you're a youngster or full-time student; in any case, the nost expensive possibility last year was less than $190 (a non-FSGW-member adult staying through Monday morning breakfast in a lower bunk). The nearest airport is probably BWI, and it has lots of relatively cheap flights. DCA is also pretty near, and IAD is acceptably close, especially if you hook up with an FSGW member for transportation. There is no public transit to the camp, but ride-sharing is a real likelihood, and lots of Mudcatters flew into BWI and carpooled from there. We should have registration information finalized and a form posted sometime in August--certainly by Labo(u)r Day. WYSIWYG is in Northernmost Pennsylvania and hasn't made it to the Getaway--yet. (Maybe this year, hint, hint. :-) ) However, there are at least 5 or 6 dozen Mudcatters who live in the DC area--heck, there are more than a dozen within a kilometer of my house. In fact, the presence of so many local Mudcatters is part of the reason we thought about inviting Mudcatters from far away in the first place. --Charlie Baum, now President of FSGW, and in the thick of it all -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: robinia Date: 31 Aug 07 - 02:01 AM Did I miss just WHEN in November this getaway is? And WHERE (nearest airport)? Public transport (or other possibilies) from the airport (I hate ro rent a car when it's just going to sit). And is there still space in the camp? I know i'm coming into this kiind of late. . . |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 07- general discussion/kibitzing - Part 2 From: Barry Finn Date: 31 Aug 07 - 01:05 AM Janie, that should be WHOOOOPS, Barry! As everyone around me falls "See him dance so light on his toes &%$#@&*%%+_)=`& Watch them fall like dominoes &%$#@&*%%+_)=`&" Barry |
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