BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 12:09 PM

Nearly 40 years ago I was standing on the western shore of Lake Cayuga NY. I watched the shore line recede 60 feet away from me.
Many years later I pieced together that at that moment there had been an earthquake in China that killed countless thousands.

BY THE WAY ...Right after the Sumatra earthquake, Yosemite Park had an earthquake of 3.4


I wonder how Arthur C Clark is doing since he lives in Sri Lanka.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 11:47 AM

about the Canary Islands situation : Yeah...it just might happen someday...next week, or in a few thousand years...if the local volcano erupts hard enough. Might be anywhere from a few days warning to 2 hrs warning...*IF* it goes beyond just an eruption. Can you imagine the traffic jams if the warning is sounded? And can you imagine the repercussions if the island doesn't collapse?

The Discovery channel has a whole stock of Armageddon documentries about everything from asteroids to earthquakes...including one running now which includes them all, along with references to Biblical predictions and past disasters. If you like knowing everything that 'might' get you, go on and watch.


Entropy Will Get You, If You Don't Watch Out



In fact, Entropy Will Get You, If You DO Watch Out

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 11:20 AM

Well McGrath I think it was the Dundee Courier that ran the 1912 headline, 'Liner lost at sea, local man feared drowned', or words to that effect.Events like this bring out the best and the worst in headline writers.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 11:16 AM

I figured it would only be a matter of time before someone like Mary Garvey blamed our government.

If you want people to be warned who live in a third world country, you first have to get them into at least the middle of the 20th century. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Undoubtably, the U.S. will once again be the leader in relief programs for these types of Acts of God. I will be sure to donate to the cause instead of trying to point a finger at someone.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 11:01 AM

Exactly one year on from a massive earthquake that destroyed the city of Bam in Iran, and killed 30,000 people. Massive amounts of aid were promised by governments round the world. Hardly any of it actually was provided. (£1 billion promised, £17 million paid over.

Maybe the fact that some of the places hit this time are places Western tourists go to might make it more likely the promised help will be supplied. Maybe.

Tsunami kills hundreds of tourists - Reuters - 50 minutes ago
Anxious families across the world are seeking news of loved ones after a tsunami crashed into beaches and bars in some of Asia's most popular tourist resorts, killing more than 20,000 people and stranding many more.

Ten of thousands dead, and what's the headline? "Hundred of tourists"

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 10:54 AM

I saw a TV program a while back concerning a prediction that part of the Canary Islands is going to fall into the sea resulting in a massive tsunami devasting the whole of the USA Eastern seaboard. Is there an early warning system in place for such an eventuality?

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: mg
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 10:10 AM

I heard on the earlier versions of the news that the scientists here had one and a half hours notice and if the people had 15 minutes warning they could have gone to higher ground and many would have been saved. They honest to God, and I heard this half asleep but I swear I heard it, that they didn't have names in their rolodexes to call. That has got to be the stupidest thing I have heard in my life. Call the UN. Call the embassies. Put it on the radio and the internet and people could have called people over there. And surely they could have called the weather people in the various countries, the geology departments in the universities etc. I have not heard that particular news bit in recent hours so I bet they are suppressing it. I subscribe to a tsunami warning system at work and get the big quakes even if it doesn't threaten us here (and I am living on a sand spit two blocks from the ocean).

It makes me sad to think of the tragedy and outraged to think of how stupid some people in our government payroll (presumably) can be...what were they thinking? mg

mg

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 09:28 AM

A picture of the birth of a tsunami
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/zania3.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 09:24 AM

..."The question is whether such excitations are large enough to be of any significance or consequence." Too bad I didn't stock up on smokes and booze before the blizzard hit and shut the city down. If we're all going to die, well, I'd just as soon have fun shovelling. Come to think of it, no sense in shovelling... there's no where to go.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 08:46 AM

yes...they live in the wild only in that part of the world, but the tsunami damage was largely a shoreline incident. Any primate, including orangs and their human cousins living more than a mile inland will have survived.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: GUEST,Mrr at work
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 08:35 AM

Does anybody know if anybody is checking to see if the orang-utans are now extinct? Don't they live only in Sumatra and Borneo?

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:40 AM

To add to Wolfgang's post:

"In 1964, a large earthquake in Alaska triggered a tsunami that caused damage all the way to California, including several million dollars damage in Port Alberni here in British Columbia. Because the warning system worked, an evacuation was possible and there was no loss of life."

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:37 AM

Co-seismic Excitation of Earth Rotational and Gravitational Changes At a Glance

A seismic event, apart from the "shaking" that is the earthquake, leaves behind permanent, step-function-like dislocations in the Earth. This redistribution of mass changes the Earth's inertia tensor; and the Earth's rotation will change according to the conservation of angular momentum. Such is the co-seismic excitation of Earth rotation changes. Similarly this mass redistribution causes the Earth's gravitational field to undergo slight changes expressible in terms of changes in its harmonic Stokes coefficients. The question is whether such excitations are large enough to be of any significance or consequence. The answer is mixed, as highlighted below...

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:34 AM

General and specific info is available on tsunamis at the following site: Google

Tsunami!: The WWW Tsunami Information Resource

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:15 AM

Tidal wave toll tops 20,000 in southern Asia
Millions homeless as international aid arrives

The Associated Press
Updated: 6:30 a.m. ET Dec. 27, 2004
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka

Rescuers scoured Asia's coastlines for survivors of devastating tidal waves that obliterated seaside towns in nine countries, killing more than 20,900 people. Aid poured into the region, but morgues and hospitals struggled to cope with the tragedy.

Hundreds of children were buried in mass graves in India as grieving parents looked on.

The death toll began climbing sharply after Sunday morning's 9.0-magnitude quake that struck deep beneath the Indian Ocean off the coast of Indonesia, the most powerful temblor in four decades.

The waves sped away from the epicenter at over 500 mph before crashing into the region's shorelines without warning, sweeping people and fishing villages out to sea. Millions were displaced from their homes and thousands were missing.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:11 AM

Also it said on the news that the quake had affected the earth's rotation. And here we all had been worrying a meteor would get us-- and that a meteor would at least give us plenty of warning to get our affairs in order. Surprise!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 07:08 AM

Red Cross prefers cash because:
<> It will already be making payments from reserves,
<> The reserves need to be buttressed fro the next disaster,
<> They try to purchase goods and services as close to the affected area as possible,
<> It aids the local economy along with the individuals who receive the goods and services,
<> It minimizes transport costs.

It hit me yesterday that this is a Global Disaster, like some of the wars came to be known as "World Wars." Not just from the scale, but the number of countries affected directly.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 05:53 AM

Some dead are even reported from the east coast of Africa. At least that should speed up the construction of a warning system in the Indian Ocean similar to the one being in effect in the Pacific.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 05:46 AM

CNN now reporting 20,000.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Mooh
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 05:40 AM

Red Cross was saying to send money, not goods, as it's easier for them. Our prayers to the victims!

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 05:26 AM

They're talking 12000 now. I just couldn't believe it when I heard the news on the radio yesterday AM, it has an unreal quality like a disaster movie. Then you see all the newsreel film, and you realise it's true, and the magnitude is just staggering. When I looked at an Australian site it gave the dates of big quakes, and the scary thing is this is the 3rd big one to occur on the date of December 26th. All those poor people, so many of them have enough troubles already, I'm going to find a disaster relief fund site, and send them a cheque.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 05:00 AM

Report I read said the toll was so far about 8,000.

Subject: BS: earthquake, related tsunami bring death
From: open mike
Date: 27 Dec 04 - 03:52 AM

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1104&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20041226%2F2344747924.htm&sc=1104
thousands are reported dead.
the waves in hawaii were huge last week, as well.