Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: pastorpest Date: 15 Feb 03 - 06:23 PM Ï really like the Bogle songs as well. But the peace march I was on today in our small Canadian prairie city began with singing Ed McCurdy's "Last Night I had the Srangest Dream" and Sy Miller's and Jill Jackson's "Let There Be Peace on Earth." People, including non singer types learned the McCurdy song quickly. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: jacko@nz Date: 15 Feb 03 - 04:51 PM thanks, breezy. Jack |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: breezy Date: 15 Feb 03 - 02:01 PM 'The Year of The Drum' was written by Wendy Joseph, a Kiwi living in Adelaide The town is Manum which lost more men per head population in both world wars than any other in South Australia. Martin learned it from a Richard Avery from Toronto Its on the album 'A Rose From The bush' 1984 |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE RED FEAST (Ralph Chapin) From: Coyote Breath Date: 15 Feb 03 - 01:12 PM "The Red Feast" by Ralph Chapin. It is, correctly, a poem but has been set to music. It was written in 1912 or 13 and was a protest against the madness in Europe which became WWI. The poem is printed in the original "Little Red Song Book", published by the IWW. I can't remember it all but enough to give you an idea of it's unrelenting anger at war and war's "masters". I believe it was 10 or 12 verses in all. The Red Feast Raplh Chapin Go fight you fools Tear up the earth with strife And spill each other's guts upon the field. Serve unto death The men you served in life, So that THEIR wide dominions May not yield. Stand by the flag The lie that still allures Lay down your lives for land You do not own And give unto A war that is not yours Your gory tithe Of mangled flesh and bone But whether in the fray To fall or kill You do not dare to Question why or where You see those tiny crosses on that hill? It took all those to save one millionare! It was for him the sea of blood was shed That fields were razed And cities lit the sky That he might come And chortle o'er the dead That condor thing For whom the millions die The last verse, as I remember it was: Then you will know that Nation's but a name And bounderies are things that don't exist And mankind's bondage, worldwide, is the same and WAR the enemy he must resist. CB |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: John MacKenzie Date: 15 Feb 03 - 08:59 AM "Handsome Johnny" "My son John" "D Day dodgers" Giok |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Strupag Date: 15 Feb 03 - 08:38 AM By the time i got to this thread, all my favourites have been suggested. Sad thing about Eric Bogle's "No man's land" is, that when the Irish bands covered it they decided to change the title to "Green Fields of France" as the title, "N M L " had political overtones over there. The also changed the line "When the rifles fire o'er ye" as that had also political overtones. Andy |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: cetmst Date: 15 Feb 03 - 06:53 AM Agree with most mentioned above: Band Played Waltzing Matilda No Man's Land Mothers, Daughters, Wives Dancing At Whitsun With God on Our Side Where Have All the Flowers Gone And many others - Add: Rosemary's Sister by Huw Williams When Princes Meet by Tom Paxton Dead Girl of Hiroshima (I Come and Stand at Every Door) by Nazim Hikmet and James Waters Just a Roll of the Drum as done by Fairport Convention Writing of Tiperary by B. Caddick And on a lighter side, Take Off Your Clothes by Mark Levy Would make a great album |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: chouxfleur Date: 15 Feb 03 - 03:12 AM There are so many, but one for me is JIMMY NEWMAN by Tom Paxton. Without writing the whole song its about an injured soldier talking to his friend whom he thinks is asleep. The last line is something like (from memory) Wake up Jimmy Newman and show them you heard, I tell 'em you sleep hard but they're shaking their heads And you've only to open your eyes And you've only to open your eyes..... Powerful stuff eh?? |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Guest Date: 15 Feb 03 - 01:21 AM #1 is "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda", especially as performed by the composer, Eric Bogle. Add to the list of good 'uns: Steve Goodman's "Ballad of Penny Evans" Malvina Reynold's (I think) "What Have They Done to The Rain" |
Subject: Lyr Add: CRUEL WAR (from Peter, Paul & Mary) From: Kaleea Date: 15 Feb 03 - 01:09 AM Since I'm half Irish (other half blarney), I usually turn to the Irish ballads in times of anti war songs. I've always liked the simplicity of John Lennon's 2 chord song. Once the Smothers Brothers were talking about being up on the balcony with John leading the crowd in this song, and Tommy was doing all kinds of creative versions of a D chord, and John mildly chastised him saying just play a regular D chord, man, this is about something very basic & simple: All we are saying, is "give peace a chance." etc. Here's one sung by Peter, Paul & Mary: CRUEL WAR The Cruel War is raging, Johnny has to fight I want to be with him from morning to night. I want to be with him, it grieves my heart so, Won't you let me go with you? No, my love, no. Tomorrow is Sunday, Monday is the day that your Captain will call you and you must obey. Your captain will call you it grieves my heart so, Won't you let me go with you? No, my love, no. I'll tie back my hair, men's clothing I'll put on, I'll pass as your comrade, as we march along. I'll pass as your comrade, no one will ever know. Won't you let me go with you? No, my love, no. Oh Johnny, oh Johnny, I fear you are unkind I love you far better than all of mankind. I love you far better than words can e're express Won't you let me go with you? Yes, my love, yes. Yes, My Love, Yes. And then there is the ever popular: Look At The Coffin Look at the coffin with its golden handles. Isn't it grand, boys, to be bloody well dead. chorus: Let's not have a sniffel Let's have a bloody good cry. And always remember the longer you live, the sooner you'll bloody well die. Look at the flowers, all blody withered, Isn't it grand boys, to be bloody well dead. chorus Look at the mourners, bloody great hypocrites, isn't it grand boys to be bloody well dead. chorus Look at the preacher, bloody santimonious, Isn't it grand boys to be bloody well dead. chorus They sing about glory, and honor the war, Isn't it grand boys to be bloody well dead. chorus |
Subject: Lyr Add: GENTLEMEN OF DISTINCTION IN THE ARMY From: Susan A-R Date: 14 Feb 03 - 10:12 PM I have had the Malvina Reynolds song Gentlemen of Distinction in the Army in my mind a lot lately I had a lovely dream I saw a big parade with ticker tape galore And men were marching there the likes I'd never seen before Oh the bankers and the diplomats are going in the army Oh happy day I'd give my pay to see them on parade With their paunches at attention and their striped pants at ease They've gotten patriotic and they're going over seas We'll have to do the best we can and bravely carry on So we'll just keep the laddies here to mannage while they're gone Chorus Oh we hate to see them go the gentlemen of distinction in the army Oh the bankers and the diplomats are going in the army It seems a shame to keep them from the wars they love to plan We're really quite contented that they'll fight a dandy war They don't need propaganda, they know what we're fighting for They'll march along with dignity and in the best of form And we'll just keep the laddies here to keep the lassies warm Chorus Oh the bankers and the diplomats are going in the army We'll have to do things differently, it's all so new and strange We'll give them silver shovels when they have to dig a hole And they can sing in harmony when answering the roll They'll eat their old k rations from a hand embroidered box And when they die, we'll bring 'em home and burry 'em in fort Knox Chorus I wonder why I've had that one running through my head so much lately. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: sharyn Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:56 PM Hey, y'all, this is a bit of thread-creep, but what if we put together a cd of Mudcats or others singing these songs and donated any proceeds to a peacemaking cause? Remember, you heard it from me, here. Amos? Joe? |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: sharyn Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:53 PM Two more just skipped into my head and then skipped out again while I was reading the new posts to this thread. If they pop in again, I'll post them. Oh, one is Bob Coltman's "Valley Forge": To live I'm too cold, To die I'm too young. This life is too short To be over and done. Is this the last winter That I'll ever see? I don't care for no God Who don't care for me. So don't you think we should beat the drum Or raise some kind of row? Ain't this glorious war Fell on hard times now? And the other is a John Gorka song called "Temporary Road": He is skating on a river That's been frozen since December: He's a soldier on a river off to war |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Jazzyjack Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:26 PM What ? ? Not even a mention of Phil Ochs' most popular anti-Vietnam war songs " I Ain't Marching Anymore " and " Is There Anybody Here ? " ? . I am singing them tomorrow at a peace rally in Nanaimo B.C. Canada. Who remembers the lyrics or should I supply them. For shame ! ! |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: breezy Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:15 PM the Drum is credited on M-W-R's album which I'll look out tomorw. I dont think its that widely known. btw its 'hames' to do with attaching the horse to the cart not paint soory but they are 'carved pieces of wood by which the traces of a horse are attached to the collar' Thank you for posting the words. Good to see Jimmy Newman there, I was smitten by Denvers interpretation. Erics 2 are classics but to my mind it was June Tabor's uncluttered singing of them as on her 'Anthology ' album that didit for me. Mike Deavin has 2 creditable songs' The Soldier's story' and 'Blood on the Sand' but you wont find him easily. Then the one that starts: 'If you see a soldier covered all in medals' with a chorus that goes 'How about you folks out there you people looking on Are you heroes are you cowards would you say? If they stuck a rifle in your hand and sent you to the war Would you be brave or would you run the other way?' Brad Bradstock stopped the show with this one at out folk club and he's back in April Then ther 'When the boys are on Parade' by Marcus turner and sung by Andy Irvine on 'Way out Yonder' hes at the club on 11th april after Brad St Albans Herts., Eng |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Scotty B Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:54 PM I certainly agree Eric Bogle probably has first place with his many songs but a couple not yet mentioned are The Island by Paul Brady and The Town I Lovewd so Wel by Phil Coulter Scotty |
Subject: Lyr Add: MARIA DIAZ (Lenny Galant) From: Stewie Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:34 PM This one doesn't appear to be in the DT or forum: MARIA DIAZ (Lenny Galant) Maria Diaz is only nine Yet she's seen enough hard times To last a hundred lifetimes, maybe more Seen children die so young, peasants fall beneath the gun Heard a nation cry for justice in a war Somoza's guards did come one day Took her father far away He was put into a truck with many more No reason did they give as to why he should not live He's just another peasant in a war Maria cries to sleep at night She says she dreams in black and white Her mother says that coloured dreams will be no more 'til there's freedom in the land, tyrants are forever banned And they let us build a nation without war Late one night a gun did sound There were Contras all around And they searched the village houses for their prey Maria's mother did protest, she felt the shot run through her breast Maria stared in horror where her mother lay In magazines and on the air They all talk of war down there Who the yanks support and who the reds are for But was she left or was she right when her mother died that night Or was she just another orphan in a war Don't look for God up in the skies You can't see God with closed eyes They must open to the wounds that lie below And see the children have a chance A chance to live, a chance to dance A chance to dream in colours bright with freedom's glow Source: Roy Bailey 'Leaves From a Tree' Fuse CF 394. 'Maria Diaz' has been reissued on CD on Roy Bailey 'Past Masters' Fuse CFCD 403. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: The Pooka Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:34 PM Giok - "As down the glen one Easter morn" sounds to me like the 1916, Easter Rising, edition of "The Foggy Dew". If so (?) - then perhaps not so much generically anti-war, as anti-the-*wrong*-war(s). It was England bade our Wild Geese go That small nations might be free Now their lonely graves are by Suvla's wave Or the fringe of the great north sea. But had they died by Pearse's side Or fought with Valera true Their graves we'd keep where the Fenians sleep 'Neath the hills of the foggy dew. (Or - have I got the wrong song/version?) On a different note -- they are characteristic black-humor Tom Lehrer satire, but *I* think they still fit the category; so I nominate "We Will All Go Together When We Go" and "So Long Mom". (Hope I got the titles right.) |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: limejuice Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:49 PM A more lighthearted anti-war song is the "feel like I'm fixing to die rag"... not claiming it's the best, but it's sure fun to sing! |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:47 PM "Side of a hill" Paul Simon "The Kerry Recruit" Traditional "Stand Firm" Leon Rosselson Can't remember the name,it starts. "As down the glen one Easter morn." Can I also throw in a poem. "The naming of parts" Giok |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,jaze Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:24 PM "All we are saying, is give peace a chance." Simple,mournful and to the point. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Strafgod Date: 14 Feb 03 - 01:53 PM I stand corrected on the authorship of Come Away Melinda, (but it is Melinda, not Matilda). Thanks Frankham. Thanks Stewie and Catspaw for reminding me of Jimmy Clay - hadn't heard the song in decades reading the lyrics, was, like a Proustian moment. Story of Isaac! Thanks again Stewie. You who build these altars now to sacrifice these children, you must not do it anymore. A scheme is not a vision and you never have been tempted by a demon or a god. Universal Soldier. Gulf War Song by Moxy Fruvous. Strafgod <--loving this thread |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Feb 03 - 12:15 PM Another humble submission... |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Frankham Date: 14 Feb 03 - 12:07 PM Come Away Matilda was written by Fred Hellerman (of the Weavers) and Fran Minkoff. It's on Weavers recordings. I think a song that should be included is Last Night I Had The Strangest Dream by Ed McCurdy. Frank |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: mg Date: 14 Feb 03 - 11:47 AM Year of the drum is an awesome song...and I usually don't believe in tampering with someone else's song but I did anyway because it seemed another generation was calling.... His name was Joseph and I am his father I went to the big one and came out all right And the last thing I thought of when I was in combat was someday I'd send my own boy off to fight And then I remember the birth of my son and oh how I prayed he would not hear the gun But his number was called and in 71 they sent his remains to the Murray... |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: BuckMulligan Date: 14 Feb 03 - 10:20 AM Add more votes to Bogle's pair (No Man's Land and The Band Played Waltzing Matilda). And the Prines that have been mentioned as well. I never saw Draft Dodger Rag as an anti-war song. It's from Ochs's superpatriot stage and I've never been convinced he had his tongue in his cheek. I think he really was poking at draft dodgers (love to be wrong of course). Fixin' To Die Rag is pretty good too. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Puffenkinty Date: 14 Feb 03 - 10:07 AM ALL QUIET ALONG THE POTOMAC TONIGHT 1st verse: All quiet along the Potomac tonight Except here and there a stray picket Is shot as he walks on his beat to and fro By a rifleman hid in the thicket; 'Tis nothing, a private or two now and then, 'Twil not count in the news of the battle, Not an officer lost, only one of the men Moaning out all alone the death rattle; All quiet along the Potomac tonight. I think this is pretty accurate. Those in high ranks declare war, and the poor "grunt" pays the price. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 14 Feb 03 - 08:50 AM Gordon Lightfoot's "The Patriot's Dream" |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Jim Colbert Date: 14 Feb 03 - 08:13 AM Reunion Hill by Richard Shindell. Arguably, it is not an anti-war song...just a song about a war widow. (Joan Baez claims it is her favorite anti war song!) Especially the newer, slow way he does it live... jim |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:28 AM "There But for Fortune" is a really beautiful song I haven't thought of in a long time. Thanks for the reminder! |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:21 AM All of the above plus Elvis Costello's 'Shipbuilding' about the futility of the Falklands War, especially as sung by Robert Wyatt. BJ |
Subject: Lyr Add: JIMMY CLAY (Patrick Sky) From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:55 AM Lots of worthy nominees......Not all come at it from the same angle of course so Masters of War to me is on par with, but in a different vein than The Band Played Waltzing Matilda. Both make my Top Five. Christmas in the Trenches makes the list as well and coming out of left field I like Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag. Topping the list for me, as already mentioned by Stewie is Pat Sky's Jimmy Clay. If you didn't click the link, here are the words: JIMMY CLAY (Patrick Sky)(c) Rabelaisian Music, Inc. When you walk down the street, who will follow you? Six o'clock, its getting late. The moon it is rising as the sticky dew Molds on the ground by the gate. With your rifle on your shoulder as you walk along Listening to your boot-heels hit the sod Smoking your cigar as you hum a song Thinking of your mother, and your God Ah, but you're alone, Jimmy Clay As you smoke your cigar and earn your pay. And fifteen thousand soldiers are marching by your side Still you're alone, Jimmy Clay. And remember New York town, good old New York town? The friends, the drinks, the cops and all And the whores who took your money when you couldn't stand And all the roaring nights you can't recall? And remember Alice Fay, good old Alice Fay? She'd been through life at least ten times around And when she said she loved you, well she meant it, boy Remember the night you nearly drowned? Ah, but you're alone, Jimmy Clay As you smoke your cigar and think of yesterday Well, yesterday don't matter when its gone away Where did it go, Jimmy Clay? So as you lie there in the mud, who will talk to you? Nobody, Jimmy Clay For when you're gone mankind follows after you Doesn't it, Jimmy Clay? And your face is growing moldy where they kissed your cheek And said "Please die for us, Jimmy Clay" And so you died a soldier and a hero's death Congratulations, Jimmy Clay. Now you're alone, Jimmy Clay You can smoke your cigar, and earn your pay And somewhere in the distance you can hear the fiddle play But not one note will change, Jimmy Clay Spaw |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Ringer Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:53 AM Don't want to be too picky, but isn't Masters of War more of an anti-war-profiteering song than an anti-war song? |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Lanfranc Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:14 AM I would endorse virtually all of the above, and add: "Child of Hiroshima" by Nazim Hikmet "There but for Fortune" by Phil Ochs plus, on the lighter side: "The Willing Conscript" by Tom Paxton "Draft Dodger Rag" by Phil Ochs "I don't want to join the army" Anon Alan |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Stewie Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:15 AM I agree that 'Johnny, I Hardly Knew Ya' would be hard to beat. Of the more recent songs, Pat Sky's Jimmy Clay is probably my favourite, just ahead of Cohen's 'Story of Isaac'. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: open mike Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:08 AM Christmas in the Trenches-John Mc Cutcheon Singing for our Lives-Holly Near Great Peace March-Holly Near There were Roses-Tommy Sands We Shall Not Be Moved --by??? Ain't Gonna Study War No More (Down by the Riverside) and on Tom Paxton's latest album: Links in the Chain--by Kate Wolf Where Have All the Flowers Gone? Pete Seeger Dona Nobis Pacem Vine and Fig Tree And I hope to sing all of these at the rally saturday! |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE YEAR OF THE DRUM (Wendy Joseph) From: jacko@nz Date: 14 Feb 03 - 01:43 AM A few really great songs been mentioned. Not offering this as the best but it's an interesting one. The town of Mannim(sp?) reputedly had the highest percentage deaths of any town anywhere which sent men to WW1. I have't been able to find an author. I believe Martin Wyndham Reed sings it The Year Of The Drum Now my name is Jack Gresham, I was brought up in Mannim That river boat town I loved well I married Meg Davis we had us two children One day our family bliss turned to hell 'Twas in 1915 and the year of the drum The guns and the government called me to come Past Mannim I look at the tall shining gums I'm drifting away down the Murray Now my name is Meg Davis and I work at Shearers With saddles and waggons and paint And the men are all fighting, the war it is raging The women toil here making fuel for the flames For it's 1916 and the men are all gone They're fighting in Europe so we carry on We're keeping the candles lit bright here at home To light their way back up the Murray Now my name is Mary and I am an orphan My father was killed in the war My ma was Meg Davis, an upstanding lady She drowned in the Murray the year I turned four 'Twas in 1918 that the telegram came The death of a soldier it's news did proclaim My ma lost her footing to the tears and the rain She slipped on the banks of the Murray Now my name is Billy and I am a soldier I just got my orders today My wife's name is Mary, she's fair as a sunset I hate to be leaving her lonely this way But the year's forty two, and the year of the drum The guns and the government called me to come Past Mannim I look at the tall shining gums I'm drifting away down the Murray But the year doesn't matter, there's always the drum The guns and the government call men to come The town still grow strong in her tall shining sons While her daughter's light lamps by the Murray |
Subject: Lyr Add: JOHN BROWN (Bob Dylan) From: Steve Latimer Date: 14 Feb 03 - 12:07 AM The Band Played Waltzing Matilda and Masters of War are two of my favourites. Kind of like this one too. John Brown Bob Dylan John Brown went off to war to fight on a foreign shore. His mama sure was proud of him! He stood straight and tall in his uniform and all. His mama's face broke out all in a grin. "Oh son, you look so fine, I'm glad you're a son of mine, You make me proud to know you hold a gun. Do what the captain says, lots of medals you will get, And we'll put them on the wall when you come home." As that old train pulled out, John's ma began to shout, Tellin' ev'ryone in the neighborhood: "That's my son that's about to go, he's a soldier now, you know." She made well sure her neighbors understood. She got a letter once in a while and her face broke into a smile As she showed them to the people from next door. And she bragged about her son with his uniform and gun, And these things you called a good old-fashioned war. Oh! Good old-fashioned war! Then the letters ceased to come, for a long time they did not come. They ceased to come for about ten months or more. Then a letter finally came saying, "Go down and meet the train. Your son's a-coming home from the war." She smiled and went right down, she looked everywhere around But she could not see her soldier son in sight. But as all the people passed, she saw her son at last, When she did she could hardly believe her eyes. Oh his face was all shot up and his hand was all blown off And he wore a metal brace around his waist. He whispered kind of slow, in a voice she did not know, While she couldn't even recognize his face! Oh! Lord! Not even recognize his face. "Oh tell me, my darling son, pray tell me what they done. How is it you come to be this way?" He tried his best to talk but his mouth could hardly move And the mother had to turn her face away. "Don't you remember, Ma, when I went off to war You thought it was the best thing I could do? I was on the battleground, you were home . . . acting proud. You wasn't there standing in my shoes." "Oh, and I thought when I was there, God, what am I doing here? I'm a-tryin' to kill somebody or die tryin'. But the thing that scared me most was when my enemy came close And I saw that his face looked just like mine." Oh! Lord! Just like mine! "And I couldn't help but think, through the thunder rolling and stink, That I was just a puppet in a play. And through the roar and smoke, this string is finally broke, And a cannon ball blew my eyes away." As he turned away to walk, his Ma was still in shock At seein' the metal brace that helped him stand. But as he turned to go, he called his mother close And he dropped his medals down into her hand. Copyright © 1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: fox4zero Date: 13 Feb 03 - 11:57 PM Ira Hayes as sung by Johnny Cash Larry |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,hal Date: 13 Feb 03 - 11:51 PM let's not forget "morning dew" especially as performed by those gurus of peace, love and happiness, the grateful dead |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: The Pooka Date: 13 Feb 03 - 11:30 PM "Willie McBride" should be on the list. And, I'll throw in "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall". I've always liked this lyric from a version of "Mrs. McGrath" - Now foreign wars they do proclaim Between Don John and the King of Spain I'd rather have me Teddy as he used to be Than the Queen of France and her whole Navy Musha ring dum da, ring a dum a da.... |
Subject: Lyr Add: WAR (Dougie MacLean) From: Cluin Date: 13 Feb 03 - 10:02 PM (obviously about the Gulf War) War (Dougie MacLean, 1991) Our voice made silent Our hands made still But deep and violent wait the ones who wait to kill The desert's burning Their reasons pale For there's no returning with some golden holy grail What have they done? What have they done? The blood will run to everyone Oh, what have they done? Is it for freedom, Or is it for truth, That fathers fall and all those young men trade their youth? Or are they moved By deception's hand, That rank and reckless scatters death across the sand? (chorus) |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: mg Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:52 PM hanging on the old barbed wire mg |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Cluin Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:50 PM "WAR! Huh! What is it good for? Absolutely nuthin', say it again..." Just kidding. I like Dougie MacLean's song "War". |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Bill D Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:48 PM "Tenting Tonight" "I Didn't Raise My Boy to be a Soldier" "Enola Gay"..by Bruce Phillips ,,,but Erik Bogle made it all so real.. |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:48 PM Your Flag Decal won't get you into Heaven Anymore |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Rick Fielding Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:41 PM Re: The Ballad of the Green Berets. Fighting Soldiers from on high. Fearless Men, who jump and die (!!!) Damn, I wish those guys had used parachutes! Rick |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: GUEST,Strafgod Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:30 PM Come Away Melinda was written by Malvina Reynolds. Kind of anti-apocalyptic rather than anti-war in the pre-nuclear sense... Where have all the Flowers Gone? The Minstrel Boy was probably the first song I came across back in the 1950's that struck me as being anti-war. I remember finding it in my grandmother's piano bench, picking out the melody and reading the lyrics and getting quite upset. Jimmy Newman by Tom Paxton. But The Band Played Waltzing Matilda is a stunner. My first time hearing it was Joan Baez's version. Strafgod <-- apologizes if he's broken any posting rules or etiquette, having just bounced in from a posting on rec.music.folk and, intrigued by the thread, just went ahead and posted without the requisite lurking, reading the faq, and paying proper attention to the rest of this great site! |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: sharyn Date: 13 Feb 03 - 09:12 PM Insanity Street by Lillie Palmer is very good: "And we talk of the coming of peace, Of a time when hostilities cease, But we make and we store all the weapons of war 'Cause we live on Insanity Street." And also Suzanne Vega's "The Queen and the Soldier" And, for traditional songs, "The Weary Cutters." And there's a brilliant song called "The King's Shilling" that Jean Redpath sings And for smaller-scale war, "There Were Roses." |
Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever? From: Snuffy Date: 13 Feb 03 - 08:56 PM Dancing at Whitsun D-Day Dodgers |
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