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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 10:44 PM but for this time only, I will blame it on not being able to see due to having had eye surgery (cataract) and sitting here with my glasses half on my face trying to look through just one lens so I can see the screen...(what... ME? addicted?...nawww, just didn't trust you yahoos to keep thing going without my oversight) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 10:29 PM arrrgghhh...I CHANGED that after spelling it right...it just didn't LOOK right in color....grump, grump...I hate it when I do that! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Mar 00 - 10:13 PM What's that Bill? A flourish you do while lying on the floor? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 10:06 PM even threw in a different font there...called "Poor Richard" ..don't fret if you dont have it, and I won't make that a habit, but I wanted to see it work... (It would take DAYS for me to have worked out the code to fade those colors, but the little program does it instantly, and previews it, and copies it to the clipboard for YOU to paste into this box...you just have to keep track in your head where you are in the process. It is easy, once you get the point, but if you have doubts, do like Joe suggests and do the easy stuff first, and learn WHAT you are doing, then the automated processes will seem more transparent....and you can finish off WITH A FLORISH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 09:55 PM whoops, try http://www.theill.com/hfc/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 09:52 PM whoops, that last trick was done with a DIFFERENT program! You can fin it http://www.theill.com/hfc/>here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 09:44 PM you can do stuff like this
MAX'S PERSONAL MESSAGES |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill D Date: 25 Mar 00 - 09:37 PM ...and for those who wish to play with some MORE freeware, here is Danish page with some stuff in English,,,Finn Christensen's Stuff including colorizing and sHMTLc, to display the HTML code like Joe did above. He also has some other stuff here and hereabout programming in C+ Delphi, etc...Jon might like to see it, but if you don't understand it, you don't need it...(I dont!)...but the color and sHTMLc is neat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Mar 00 - 07:08 PM It was probably naughty of me to enter Java Script but I had tested it at home before posting here. To echo Joe's comments to anybody that may have an edit key, take care. It is necessary to understand the logic of what is there before any changes can be made. In this case, attempting to put the logic into English, the main function runs something like this: function MakeABlueClickey() if no location (URL) is given, a blue clicky can not be created so blank the copy area and quit. As I got here, it hasn't quited so there is a location. I will now look to see if the user has given a name and if they haven't, I will assume that the clicky is to display showing the location (URL) as the visible part as well as the other part, set that and quit. Ok, I'm still here so there must be both a location and a name supplied so create the thing as per the template Joe gave. end of function. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: BlueJay Date: 25 Mar 00 - 06:26 PM Thanks, Joe. Makes sense now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Mar 00 - 03:21 PM There I go again ... as as instead of and as, on could instead of one could, etc. How I ever manage to get computer programs to compile remains a mystery. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Mar 00 - 03:14 PM 2 Points Joe, 1. I didn't think that was a little dig - let's be honest, my spelling, grammar and typing errors are horrible nearly all of the time. There are many occasions when I go straight back to my posts, read them and wonder how the hell I'd managed to produce what I did. 2. You do have a good point re the learning of HTML (one day, I might make the effort to learn it properly but I am lazy) and I think that simple HTML editor that I gave a link to could actually be used as a learning tool. At first you could use all the help and prompts, mess around typing stuff in and previewing it, clear and try again as as confidence and understanding increased on could cut down on the help and even try entering in tags without using any of the buttons. Jon
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Subject: HTML: Blue Clicky Links From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Mar 00 - 03:02 PM OK, I hope you have this straight now - blue clicky things change color once you've visited a site. For the life of me, I can't figure out what color they change to - cyan, or yuck green, or something like that, I think. On the Forum Menu, you can tell from the color of the links which threads you've reviewed and which you haven't. And when the thread has a new message posted to it, your link turns blue again. This is also a good way to know right off if the links you post are good. When you post a link, your link will be blue only if you have not visited the linked site recently. I would assume you've visited the site to copy the URL (according to the sound advice Joe Offer gave you), so that means your link should NOT be blue when you post it. Seems there's another misunderstanding that needs to be cleared up. When you type things up to post in the forum, the HTML tags must be visible to you <and enclosed in angle brackets> when you type or paste them into the "reply to thread" box. What you type in the "reply" box is just plain text, with no special effects. The HTML tags don't work in the "reply" box because the box is set just for text. Once you hit the "submit" button, your words and HTML tags are recorded on the file for this page on the hard drive of the Mudcat Main Computer. When somebody else then looks at this page with a Web browser, their browser will then interpret your HTML tags and display all those cute little special effects you entered. If you want to see what this page looks like in plain text, move your mouse cursor over to a white space on this page, and click your right mouse button. Choose "view source" from the menu that appears, and a window will open with the text version of this page. Then you can see all the HTML tags Max and others have used to produce this page - and you will see that it's a pretty remarkable thing Max has done for us. Note to JoeClones®: Please be very careful if you feel moved to fix something in a message that has complicated HTML in it - like Jon's message above, or my link samples below. One little click of your edit button can mess the whole thing up. If you have to fix something, do a "view source" and edit the message in the test window that opens, and then paste the corrected text into the "reply" box. I know Jon's spelling can be horrible at times, but it's better to put up with his spelling, and allow him to create the marvelous things he gives us. I suppose the same could be said for Max's spelling.... (did I say that??? <snicker>) Jon, now that I've gotten a little "dig" in on you, let me say your little box is marvelous. Still, I think it would be better if those who would like to do HTML here would learn HTML. A few little tags can work wonders, and I'm afraid that people who rely on boxes like Jon's can end up making some really messy mistakes because they do far more than they know. HTML can do wonderful things, but I think it's better if you know what you're doing before you do it (feel free to practice in HTML threads, of course, since your practice messages will be deleted sooner or later). If you do make a mistake, wherever it is, post a request for help in the Help Forum and somebody will gladly fix your goof. The Logic of LinksLinks are actually fairly easy to make, once you understand the logic behind them. Remember that all HTML tags <are enclosed in angle brackets>. The workings of HTML start with one tag (<a href=...>, in the case of a link). They do their work, and then are closed with a slash and a repeat of the original command (</a> in the case of a link). Everything between those two tags is what is affected by the tags (in the case of a link, whatever is between the tags becomes an hreference).OK, now look at the links below and see if they make sense to you. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill in Alabama Date: 25 Mar 00 - 02:03 PM Jon-- Fantastic! I couldn't figure out how to change the color of visited links on my Netscape 4.7, because there's no Tools location visible on the bar. Now, thanks to your advice, I have been able to change the purple to red. Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:51 PM BlueJay and McGrath, have a look at the simple HTML editor I provided a link to. It has a prompt mode, a help mode and allows you to preview your results. I think a short play with it just to try things and then preview your results might prove useful to you. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: BlueJay Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:49 PM Li'l Neo, certainly no offense intended. Your computer skills are obviously greater than mine, but i just couldn't resist borrowing your name. Smile! BJ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:46 PM BlueJay, the reason you are getting purple clicky things is probably down to your broswer. Many browsers let you set default colours for links. In the case of Internet Explorer 5, these are changed by Tools/Internet Options and clicking on colors in the General Tab. In my other browser (Netscape 4.7) these setings are changed by Edit/Preferences and selecting color from the tree list on the left. I'm not sure if I am understanding your second question correctly but if you mean you had all the html tags showing when you entered your post, that is correct. It is only when the message is posted and then the page is reloaded that it will look OK (when you reload it, the browser interprets these codes as having special meanings - if you viewed the HTML source for your post, you would find it is still exactly the same as you entered it). Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:46 PM All the "blue clicky things" I do are purple - someone explained it to me, but I couldn't understand the explanation, which is what normally happens.
I think if I fiddled around with my browser settings I could probably turn them blue - but I think there's nothing wrong with purple for looking at. And my understanding is that there are people out there who see blue where I see purple.
Moreover, I think "blue clicky" sounds more friendly when referring to them. Purple is for People Eaters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: BlueJay Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:23 PM McGrath of H- I don't quite get it either. Now I got detailed instructions, which I thought that I followed from Joe Offer's HTML thread, and created a "Blue Clicky Thing" to some guitar pick-ups that I really like, (on the thread titled "Acoustic vs. Electric". But when I saw the results, the link was in PURPLE, not blue!! My question, is there a difference? The purple link goes where I wanted, but no one ever talks about "purple clicky things". Did I do something wrong or different. I know you can't see the HTML, but the only thing I can think of is that I didn't put in the """"s around the Pick-up the World address. Is it my browser? Are purple and blue interchangable? Also, one of my responses to that thread was inexplicably cut off, and my question went unanswered. When I pasted the stuff per Joe Offer's instructions, all the HTML <>HREF//==::/>?< and all that were still on my browser, which was a little disconcerting. But when the page went up, it worked like it was supposed to! Does all this stuff ACTUALLY have to go out onto the web before it takes effect? Just call me another Little Neophyte if you will. Sorry but I'm learning as I go. Many thanks. BleuCheesetodayJay |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Amos Date: 25 Mar 00 - 01:01 PM Try this link |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Bill in Alabama Date: 25 Mar 00 - 12:51 PM Jon-- The browser looks great! I'm bookmarking it for my learning sessions in html. Thanks Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 24 Mar 00 - 09:37 PM Uh? I don't understand this stuff... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 24 Mar 00 - 09:23 PM I have just found a simple HTML editor which runs in a browser. It's operation is the same as the Mudcat one but it has more features, a help mode and it can be set to prompt the user for the information to make things like the blue clickies. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Mar 00 - 07:21 PM Wow!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Mar 00 - 07:21 PM Testing one, two three |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: GUEST,Bill in Alabama Date: 24 Mar 00 - 10:55 AM Yes-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jeri Date: 24 Mar 00 - 10:31 AM See also this thingie that Max did |
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Subject: RE: BS: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 24 Mar 00 - 08:01 AM Does it work? Jon
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Subject: Testing Blue Clickey Creator From: Jon Freeman Date: 24 Mar 00 - 07:59 AM It seems to work on my browser at home. Never tried JavaScipt before. Time to put it top the real test. Might prove useful if it works. Jon
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