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Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan

simon-pierre 21 Sep 01 - 10:14 PM
Tedham Porterhouse 21 Sep 01 - 10:04 AM
GUEST,Pete 21 Sep 01 - 07:49 AM
Little Hawk 20 Sep 01 - 01:56 PM
Clinton Hammond 20 Sep 01 - 11:15 AM
Steve Latimer 19 Sep 01 - 07:13 PM
radriano 19 Sep 01 - 07:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: simon-pierre
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 10:14 PM

well... it's best work since Time out of Mind, maybe? :-) I think it's pretty good, but I got annoyed by the drums and the bass on the first plan. And for the lyrics... english is my second language, so I 'll listen to it another hundred times and post my comments later!!

We had another thread on Love and Theft there


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 10:04 AM

I picked up "Love & Theft" on Wednesday and have only had a chance to listen once through. That said, my initial reaction is that it's Dylan's best work since "Blood On the Tracks."


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 21 Sep 01 - 07:49 AM

Thanks for the info on that website, Steve, it's a gem.

PS. No need to blueclickything - I just did the old fashioned fingerclickything!


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 01:56 PM

What are you trying to say, Radriano? :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 11:15 AM

*Singing*

"It's been so long since a strange woman slept in my bed
Look how sweet she sleeps
How free must be her dream"

:-)


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 07:13 PM

Radriano,

You may be right, but he's a pretty good starting point.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: radriano
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 07:08 PM

Surely there's more to music than Bob Dylan?


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 06:24 PM

Steve - Oh, okay, I get it.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 02:27 PM


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 02:16 PM

Guest Pete,

Sorry, I can't Blueclickything, but I found the lyrics and Chords to Mississippi here:

http://hem.passagen.se/obrecht/backpages/chords/index.htm


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 01:20 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of it applying to Bin Laden in his current situation.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 01:09 PM

"Neighborhood Bully" is about Israel, Steve. What new light did you see it in? Were you thinking of the USA in that role now...or???

- LH


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 10:41 AM

Good song Clinton.

I had heard mixed reviews on Infidels, I saw it for $9.99 CDN and bought it about two weeks ago. Although I wouldn't say it's a "must have" Dylan, it sure is good. I also picked up "Oh Mercy" at the same time. I can't believe that I missed that one for so long.

Guest Pete, I checked www.bobdylan.com for the Mississippi Lyrics, they haven't posted them yet. Perhaps you could try Sheryl Crow's site, she recorded it a while ago.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 10:33 AM

"well the pressure's down, the boss ain't here, he's gone north for a while..."

:-)


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 10:27 AM

Love and Theft is one of those that will grow on us. I got the limited edition here in the UK last Wednesday (19/9).

Track 2, "Mississipi", is awesome. If DJH or anyone else can supply the full lyrics before I get the time to sit down and transcribe them that'd be great. Sounds like it's in the key of A, using D and E7 in a sort-of 12-bar sequence.

Pete


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 09:25 PM

Okay, so it's thread creep, but I was listening to Infidels on the way home tonight. I saw this one in a new light.

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man, His enemies say he's on their land. They got him outnumbered about a million to one, He got no place to escape to, no place to run. He's the neighborhood bully.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 07:22 PM

Infidels was great, but could have been absolutely legendary had Bob picked a slightly different songlist, and included "Blind Willie McTell" and a couple of others from that time period. It would then have been the new "Blood On The Tracks"! "Jokerman" remains one of my favourite Dylan songs of all time.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:33 PM

I will grill her on it... but the few tracks I've downloaded this AM don't impresse much so far... tweedledee is about 2 and a half minutes too long for what it is...

hey LH... -I- liked "Empire Burlesque" as well... but not as much as I liked "Infidels"...

;-)


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:27 PM

I heard some sound clips from it and it sounds pretty awesome. A lot of rocking blues songs and jazzy smoky nightclub-sque kinds of songs.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:20 PM

Clinton,

Did she say why?


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:39 AM

Sounds like a typical set of reactions. A lot of people hated "Street Legal" and "Empire Burlesque", and I loved 'em. "Time Out of Mind" is quite good, but I wouldn't exactly say I love it...Daniel Lanois' production seems to get in the way sometimes, for me, on that one. Still haven't got "Love and Theft".

- LH


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Subject: Bob Dylan
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM

Well, I haven't heard it, but my mom is a huge Dylan fan and told me it's possibly the WORST album he's ever put out...


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 08:16 AM

DJH,

That's eerie.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: gus C
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:49 AM

The new Dylan album is frightening. I know it is coincidence, Bob has been in the Business of "the world is going wrong" songs for a long time. I know Dylan didn't intend it to be the soundtrack to 9/11, but , it is.
" Coffins Falling to the street"
"made it to 12th and Vine, nothing standing there"
"I am stranded in the city that never sleeps.....I'm avoiding the southside the best I can"
"I know what the whole world is up against....any minute of the day the bubble could burst"
So many lines could be about the tragedy, at least a line from every song, frequently whole verses -
" I see Your Lover man coming across the battlefield , he aint a gentleman at all , he's rotten to the core, he's a coward and he steals"
same song - " you gonna need my help you can't make love all by yourself".
Some even sound like they are spoken from the point of view of the terrorists -
" The cuckoo is a pretty bird ( who only sings on the 4th day of July) she warbles as she flies, I am preaching the word of god poking out your eyes".
Obviously Dylan didn't know and wouldn't have intended it-
" I'm glad we fought I only wish we won".
In some instances maybe he would have intended it had he known -
" one of the Boss Man's Hangers on stops by, WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT, tries to bully you , strong arm you , inspire you with FEAR, it has the opposite effect"
same song- " If you ever interfere with me or cross my path again, you do so at the peril of your own life, I aint as cool and forgiving as I sound, I've seen too much heartache and strife."
It is hard to listen to it, except MISSISSIPPI -
"My ship has been split to splinters.......... but, I Got Nothing but Affection for those who sail with me."


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST,JohnnyTheBone
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:14 AM

The new Dylan is MONSTROUS!


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST, I, hurricane
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 10:01 PM

I've had it for days and days. But I can't describe it for you. It is, of course, another pure original. I prefer Time Out of Mind because it's got a good beat and I can tap my feet to it, but there's no accounting for taste, and there's no describing this album. Only the last song would have belonged on Time Out of Mind. . . (Hope that's helpful!)


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 04:16 PM

Correction Peter, Rolling Stone gave it a five star rating, the first five star they've given since 1992. And what would a Dylan album be without at least a few detractors.

I have heard a few tracks that I've enjoyed. I've ordered the Limited Edition (maybe Mr. Barnum was right).

I'll let you know what I think once I've given it a few listens. A Dylan nut I know feels it is one the strongest works of his career.


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Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 03:26 PM

Haven't heard it yet, but the reviews have been all over the place from 4 stars to 1. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 02:19 PM

Bob Dylan's new album "Love And Theft" was released, sadly, on Tuesday. Has anyone had anytime to pick up the album and tell us how they liked it?


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