Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Stewart Date: 21 May 05 - 03:00 PM From an article I wrote "Not in the Book" One of my first song books was Song Fest, by Dick and Beth Best, published by the Intercollegiate Outing Club Assoc. (I.O.C.A.) in 1954. The preface to the original collection had some interesting words of wisdom: "Because the fires of enthusiasm kindled at a rousing songfest, roaring most heartily… can't be artificially preserved for I.O.C.A. posterity, this song book is inevitably a mere woodpile. The motley crew who haphazardly, and with occasional splurge of energy, have thrown the pile together, haven't bothered about a few knots and flaws in the grain. They've gone out of their way to select good rough logs, which haven't been cut up, dried, and neatly sorted like those you find on any standard woodpile. They've tossed the big timbers in next to the small ones, but have tried to stack them up for easy reference. You'll find some of them won't burn very easily unless you corral an expert hand to touch them off, but plenty of room has been left on the pile for wood of you own choosing. In brief, the woodpilers herewith toss you the torch – and the tip that, not withstanding a random shot of smoke-in-the-eyes, which you may get in the early stages, no fire will burn more brightly than the one you concoct yourself." The following P.S. was added: "A reward of one left-hand dungaree patch, guaranteed not to rip, run, rust, tear, split, melt, break, etc. is hereby offered for the pelt of the first bohunk caught surreptiously using this book at a songfest." Cheers, S. in Seattle |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Ron Davies Date: 21 May 05 - 11:35 AM I must be mistaken--I thought the name of the book was "Sink Down Moaning". |
Subject: Lyr Add: RISE UP SCREAMING From: Barry Finn Date: 21 May 05 - 12:53 AM Forgive me, father; I'm about to speak blasphemy. Are we talking about the folkies' bible, the 1st testament? I wouldn't actually burn the book but it would collect an awful lot of dust before I'd use it. There are far better reliable & easily available sources. I was asked to stop singing a song & was told that the words I was singing was not the same as RUS & to top it off was told I was singing it in the wrong key & could you sing it the right way like in the book so we all could sing along. I would definitely not recommend it as a reliable source. I don't throw all the blame on RUS but they share it with those that use it as the end all to beat all. Maybe RUS could've included a disclaimer. Something like, this not the folksingers gospel, don't take it as a proper source, expect there'll be errors & "do not burn this book even if you're freezing to death". I got so pissed to see & hear others talk about otherwise once decent singing sessions going downhill to find a level that would be a common denominator that I wrote the song below. It may well be I was a bit too harsh at the time, I hardly hear about the bible anymore. Barry RISE UP SCREAMING (tune: Jack In the Green) A pub session or a party is a very strange thing. They're all out of fashion. no more do they sing, For they read from a book or copy a tape. They imitate sounds no mortal should make. There's no sound in the kitchen, no sound in the hall. There's a murderous screech that plays off the walls. Where is the music? where are the songs? In the mouths of monsters where no sound belongs. Dead pan they look as they sing in your face. They'll spit out the words and the tunes they'll disgrace. A song will be beat o'er and over to death, And in a round robin, they'll resurrect it again. No more will be heard a version that's lost, Or a variant that's rare, or two songs that were crossed. The borrowing or sharing of a tune or a song Will be according to the Bible; all else will be wrong. And now for the future, it's bleak for the song. No young mortal will dare to carry it on. They'll be none around who without books can sing Or swap without tapes or Rise Up Singing. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Barry Finn Date: 15 Jan 03 - 06:20 PM I should've put in the address (tried to make a link, no luck). http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=13140#106707 Barry |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Barry Finn Date: 15 Jan 03 - 06:19 PM Here's another thread, "Rise Up Screaming". Barry |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: mg Date: 15 Jan 03 - 01:24 AM he can do it for free...what are friends for. mg |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Barbara Date: 14 Jan 03 - 05:40 PM Here's a better scanning version of my two verses, created by Ray Frank: Come all ye bold singers and hold up your heads, Don't read us the words, just sing 'em instead. Line out the chorus; if you're lost, don't get shook, You can't check the page 'cause it's not in the book, It's not in the book, (2x) You can't check the page 'cause it's not in the book A song is a story told with voice and with heart, It speaks of our lives with the taleteller's art. Make it your own and the flaws overlook, But you must know the words when they're not in the book. They're not in the book, (2x) But you must know the words when they're not in the book. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Barbara Date: 13 Jan 03 - 03:06 AM mary, perhaps you can just charge Craig good money to print them on your posterior hisself... He means that I called him for the lyrics before I found the ancient floppy that had them on it. Left him a message on his answering machine and went back to searching... voila! Here they are, and also in DT, I see. Sorry, couldn't make the search engine do what I wanted Saturday. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Joe_F Date: 12 Jan 03 - 06:34 PM I think it is unsporting to leave a whole line of the original song unchanged. I propose: From the south comes Cucuracha, from the north Alouette, From the Aussies & Brits we take all we can get. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: mg Date: 12 Jan 03 - 02:22 PM wait..did you say "found" the lyrics? I have embroidered them onto a tapestry and when I save up the money will have some of them tatooed on my posterior. least I could do. mg |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: mg Date: 12 Jan 03 - 02:17 PM oh the muse is striking me as we speak...here is a truly awful verse meant to be immediately discarded what's really the worst is the horrible light we're forced to endure so late in the night and we can't turn them down cause folks have to look at the words they don't know cause they're all in the book |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 03 - 12:09 PM Barbara, Looks like you found the lyrics. See you all at Rainy Camp. Cheers, Sandy Bob |
Subject: Lyr Add: NOT IN THE BOOK From: Barbara Date: 11 Jan 03 - 10:03 PM Hi there 'Catters. I understand a number of you are looking for this song. It may be in the DT but I can't find it, so am posting it again, including my verses. Catter Sandy Bob wrote the main part. Blessings, Barbara
NOT IN THE BOOK
Come all ye bold singers that have to this place come
From France we do get brandy, from Jamaica comes rum
Good songs may not be pretty or politically in style
The good folk at Sing Out have done a good turn, Here's a couple more by Barbara Millikan:
Come all ye bold singers and hold up your heads
A song is a story told with voice and with heart, I moved this message here from another thread on the same topic. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: mg Date: 10 Jan 03 - 09:06 PM I could be mistaken but I think it is Sandy Bob of Portland who wrote it. A brilliant song. Undoubtedly it has traveled to SF. (Sandy Bob has been known to check in here and will hopefully be at Rainycamp). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 03 - 07:31 PM Thanks so much. I had done two searches on DT but didn't turn it up, probably because I had the title slightly wrong. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Jan 03 - 07:14 PM Rise Up Singing Rinse Up Slinging Etc. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Joe_F Date: 10 Jan 03 - 07:13 PM _Rise Up Singing_. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: GUEST,Pete Date: 10 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM referring to RUS? What does RUS mean in this context, please? Pete |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: Susan of DT Date: 10 Jan 03 - 06:08 PM It is in the Digital Tradition here. Put in the book into the blue search box. |
Subject: Lyr Req: 'It's Not in the Book' From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:46 PM I understand someone in the SF Bay Area has written a song called "It's Not in the Book" (referring to RUS), to the tune of "Fathom the Bowl," and I'd love to get my hands on the lyrics. Can anyone help? Thank! |
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