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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,John D
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 10:18 PM

Monty Walsh - loved the theme music and Mama Cass singing "The good times are coming".


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Alba
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 02:21 PM

For me it's Cinema Paradiso and Il Postino when I want a warm and fuzzy feeling
13th Warrior and the Fifth Element just for fun
Now Voyager when I have a cold and can snuggle on the couch
Put them on and watch them again anytime Films:
Les enfants du paradis
Au revior les enfants
Raise the Red Lantern
The Shipping News
White Oleander
Don Juan de Marco
Chocolat
My name is Joe
Wuthering Heights
Rebecca
The Big Blue
and a few 100 more....
JD:>)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: jacqui c
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 01:36 PM

I'd forgotten West Side Story - just got it on DVD - the ending makes me cry everytime.

The one I will watch again, when I'm in the right mood, is Schindler's List. My Ex wasn't one to sit through anything too long so I didn't tell him it was about three hours and mostly black and white. He came out of the cinema totally blown away by the film and I had to give him a potted history of the Holocaust as he really (even at the age of fifty) hadn't paid any attention to what happened there. Terrific film, but not one to watch when stressed or depressed!


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 01:28 PM

I'm not the least surprised at that, Clinton. Takes all sorts.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 01:21 PM

I can... I had to watch it once, and I'll never do so again...

Mind, I don't really care for old movies...


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 11:40 AM

I can't believe noone's mentioned "The Adventures of Robin Hood" - that's the Erroll Flynn version.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 03:15 AM

I can't believe I left Yellowbeard off my list!

LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 12:05 AM

When people can't see a way to fight the oppressors, they fight each other, or themselves.

McGrath, perhaps that somewhat explains Americans' behavior these days?


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 03 Nov 03 - 02:25 AM

LadyHawke--I adore Rutger Hauer's horse! (And he ain't bad, either...)
The Big Chill
Children of a Lesser God
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (How do you know he's the King?)
Top Gun (for the scene where the fighter planes look like bees swarming)
King of Hearts
Harold and Maude
Anything with Kevin Costner in it--I like both Waterworld AND The Postman--Field of Dreams is my favorite, though.
To Kill a Mockingbird--just introduced my 11-year-old grandson to that one.
LOTR films
Harry Potter films
Too many more to list

Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 11:45 PM

I don't watch a lot of TV, but every so often I put on either "Babe" or "Forest Gump". I could watch them anytime.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 03:16 AM

Black Orpheus, also known as Orfeo Negro.
First saw it in Wellington in 1963, it returned every few years but now it's been on telly and I have my own copy!
Also love The Party and West Side Story.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 02 Nov 03 - 01:58 AM

Under the name "The Horse's Mouth," the film is available on both video and DVD in Canada and the US. For more info, go to imdb.com (Internet Movie Data Base, which I could not get along without).


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Peace
Date: 01 Nov 03 - 11:52 PM

Platoon
Armageddon
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

Does anyone know if Alec Guiness' "From the Horse's Mouth" from the book by Cary is available on VHS or DVD?


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: harvey andrews
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 05:53 AM

The Glenn Miller story.
Spinal Tap.
All the films of Jaques Tati and Laurel and Hardy
Life of Brian.
Field of dreams.
Jaques Brel is alive and well..
Inherit the wind
And almost anything in French with subtitles.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,Suzanne
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 05:40 AM

And how do you feel about The Shining, then?

Movies I don't mind seeing over and over -

The Harder They Fall
A Charlie Brown Christmas
Spot's Magical Christmas
It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!
Spirited Away
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
anything with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers
2001 SPace Odyssey
Braveheart
The Gods Must Be Crazy
All Dogs Go to Heaven
The Jungle Book - the old one with Phil Harris
as Baloo and Louie Prima as King Louie
Charlotte's Web
Young Frankenstein (Put! Zhe Candle! Beck!)
any Peter Sellers movies (Pardon me, do you have a rheum?)
and of course, The Rocky Horror Picture show

Wow, once I started, the list became a whole lot longer than I thought it would! It strikes me that I'm not willing to rewatch
some of these because they're good, but because they transport
me back in time and space. Follow the yellow brick road!
I wonder why no one has mentioned the Wizard of OZ?


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 06:29 PM

Classics... but way to tame by todays standards Chuckie....


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 01:44 AM

Well, I thought Reds and The Killing Fields were both great. I liked Dick Tracy too, not that there's much connection, aside from Warren Beatty...

Bonnie & Clyde is also a very striking and unforgettable movie.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 06:30 PM

No-one seems to be giving my nominations much airtime:

12 Angry Men
Reds
The Killing Fields
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
To Kill a Mocking Bird


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 09:28 AM

I've just remembered another one, and I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet - "The Seven Faces of Dr Lao". There is something about it that really appeals to me.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 12:25 AM

McGrath - There's a good deal of truth in what you said. The same kind of thing can be said of the black community in the USA...another traumatized and oppressed group of people who have suffered greatly in the last few hundred years. Only thing is, it can be pretty frustrating dealing with it, if you deeply love the traditional values of such a community. I loved everything "Indian" from the time I was old enough to walk, and I just naturally gravitated toward it with an innocent heart, so to speak, and got awfully frustrated later by all the infighting in the community. However, it was a powerful learning experience and it eventually led to my according greater respect to all people in general rather than a few in particular...so I guess it turned out okay in the end.

The fact is, virtually all people are being oppressed in one way or another...and the few rich and powerful at the top just love those old "divide and conquer" tactics of splitting the rest of us up into proud, hostile little tribes and focusing our anger on each other. Like Boss Tweed said in "Gangs of New York", "you can always get one half of the poor to kill the other half for you..." Uh-huh. Easily done. Just focus on the trivial differences...like skin colour, religion, nationality or language.

Peter T. - You are a wise man, my friend.

Clinton - Yeah. "The Abyss" is a great movie.

SINSULL - I've never seen "The Day The Earth Caught Fire". Sounds pretty spectacular.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 11:36 PM

Clinton

I like your list. The Iron Giant is a classic. But what do I know, I liked WaterWorld, (and The Postman)

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 10:28 PM

Forgot to mention Amadeus. Bet I've watched it six times now -- it's the first video I ever wanted to own. IMO, it shows what moviemaking can be.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 08:59 PM

Movies - noone's mentioned two I'll watch any time I get the chance -

"Oh Brother Where Art Thou" and "Sullivan's Travels" (from which "Oh Brother" took its title).

Also Truffaut's "L'Enfant Sauvage"

And for modern films, "Amélie".


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 08:44 PM

Surely all that's "displacement activity", Little Hawk. In the situation they've been forced into, it's pretty inevitable. When people can't see a way to fight the oppressors, they fight each other, or themselves. Infighting, drink, suicide.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 08:00 PM

Citizen Kane
The Jewel In The Crown (PBS series)
The Day The Earth Caught Fire (incredible special effects for the time)
Day Of The Triffids (I have always wanted to live in a lighthouse)
Wuthering Heights
Ramblin' Rose
The Apostle (just about anything with Robert Duvall)
Gone With The Wind
The Haunting (Julie Harris)
Village Of The Damned (60's version)
Pride and Prejudice (PBS series)
The Producers (and just about anything with Gene Wilder in it)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 05:02 PM

'Stranger In A Strange Land' hasn't been made into a film... At least not under that title....

I think you want the Books Reread thread...

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,got cookies?
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 04:24 PM

Couldn't resist it...got my cookies this AM

    A Confederacy of Dunces....John Kennedy Toole
    Stranger in a Strange Land....Robert Heinlein


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 04:14 PM

Guest above mentioned "Billy Eliot." A great film to watch, as you just wait for that beautiful, beautiful final leap by the grown up Billy in Swan Lake. I have rented that film just to re-play that leap again and again, always with a lump in my throat.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 04:05 PM

Yellowdog?

Do you maybe mean
Yellow Dog (1973)
Directed by
Terence Donovan

or
Far From Home: The Adventures of Yellow Dog (1995)
Directed by
Phillip Borsos

Cause I'm betting you don't mean
Yellow Dog, The (1918)
Directed by
Colin Campbell


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 03:47 PM

Alright... lemme try to just list a few... In whatever order they come to me in...

The Abyss... Great film... before James Cameron went nuts...
Any and all John Carpenter Films... Even the really bad stuff like Dark Star...
Fellowship Of The Ring... Despite it being Peter Jackson...
The 13th Warrior
Labyrinth
Legend
The Dark Crystal (Possibly the BEST fantasy film made to date!)
2001/2010
A Beautiful Mind (Didn't get anough Academy Awards in my opinion)
Dark City (One of the main things that was ripped off to make The Matrix)
The Animatrix (Some great short fiction
Cube
Stir Of Echoes
Clerks/Mallrats/Chasing Amy/Dogma/Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back (I have sorta a Kevin Smith crush)
Snatch
Aeon Flux
Conan The Barbarian
Flesh And Blood
Indian Jones (Thank the gods for the DVD release!)
Star Wars... (The movie... not the crap that came after it...)
The Iron GIant
Princess Mononoke
Gladiator (MMmm... Ridley Scott!)
Blade Runner

I HAVE to stop otherwise I'll be here all day!


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 03:27 PM

The one not to burn is The Lady's Not For Burning! Wonderful story (it was cast on television with Eilene Atkins and Richard Chamberlain. Has it been made into a film?)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:22 PM

Does anyone recall a film called Yellowdog. It is about a boy and his dog lost in the wilds of British Columbia. I woul;d see it ten times over...if I could find it .


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage, sans cookie
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:17 PM

I think the one to burn for that really stupid message is Grease. I hated that one, even if it did have a good cast.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:14 PM

Monty Python's Holy Grail, Billy Eliot, The Quiet Man, Casablanca, The Lion In Winter,Johnny Belinda, African Queen,To Kill A Mockinbird and my all time fave.The Maltese Falcon.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Peter T.
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:10 PM

"Pretty Woman" would certainly be a candidate for burning, it is such a piece of poison, except for one thing -- that damn Julia Roberts. She is so beautiful in that film that you are simply stunned into submission. Sure, lady, be a whore, go shopping, use credit cards as a symbol of freedom, whatever you want. Be an axe-murderer, see if I care.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,SRS
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:03 PM

Good policy. A lot of people trip over that pedestal, or fall off of it, when they never should have had to deal with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 01:04 PM

Black Robe is a powerful film, all right. Haven't seen Smoke Signals.

Regarding Dances With Wolves, a realistic ending to that story could only have been miserably, horribly tragic and bloody. I'm glad I didn't have to sit through such an ending, having lived (and died) through many such endings before, more times than I wanted to...you can choose to end a given story at any point you wish to.

They did add a postscript, saying that the free life of those plains people was over in ten years, didn't they?

You know, I eventually decided after years of spiritual study that all people are shining souls of the same nation (although they seldom seem to be aware of it), and it matters less what your genetic makeup is than it does what shirt you decide to wear today. The Medicine Wheel now includes all people in a great circle. There's no point getting arrogant over tribal afilliations or cultural purity, and it doesn't help anyone to do so (not that you can't celebrate it in a positive way). You have to look beyond the mere skin and hair to the spirit and consciousness within. That includes forgiving the past too, and not dragging old hatreds into the present where they do not belong.

I used to put Indians on a pedestal above other people. Now I put everyone on the same level field. It was a hard lesson to swallow.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 12:09 PM

Watched a recording to-day of, Day of the Jackal, Brilliant. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 10:53 AM

Little Hawk, you're correct. Indians are a very touchy crowd in many contexts, and are depending on the reason, more or less entitled to be so. I'm not going to pick up this discussion beyond this point because enough has been said. And if you read the Cynthia Ann Parker history you'll see in a nutshell what the major complaint is about Dances With Wolves--it goes through all of the sympathetic stuff but still has a very traditionally white ending. Indian people had a lot to say about the "feel good" quality of it film, that made only colonizers feel better.

I agree entirely about the remark that you can't ever make everyone happy in Indian Country--there is so much infighting that it gets pretty damned depressing if you consider yourself a scholar in that field. I regularly see people ganged up on for some discussion list remark or published essay or other on the scholarly lists--there are some who follow the teachings of this native leader, others who follow that native scholar--and heaven help the mixedblood scholar who chooses to favor their Indian upbringing or try to bring in at least dual perspectives. With mixedblood kids myself, the best thing I can do for them is try to offer some perspective and tell them it's okay to say "screw it all" if the fighting gets to be too bad to take the pleasure out of life. More than one scholar has sadly set aside a lifetime of work and gone on to study other things because the contentious nature of the field got to be more than they could tolerate.

A film that will definitely make you squirm on the subject is Black Robe. And Sherman Alexie has been making films that bring humor but also an Indian perspective to things. Smoke Signals has been around for a while now.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 03 - 12:08 AM

Ah, Peter, you are a kindred soul on the "Independence Day" thing. It may be a movie that only Americans can love (some of them, I mean...). I can buy the notion that it's partially a send-up, but it's still obnoxious. I've seldom been so angry at having spent $10 on a movie as I was with that one.

jacqui - You're right that the "close encounter" line is pretty darned funny, and I agree that "Deep Impact" is by far the best of the disaster movies, because it makes a sincere effort to look into the human side of the situation, rather than just burying the viewer under a barrage of special effects and patriotic bombast. Also, Morgan Freeman plays the president with his usual dignity and presence, which are considerable.

One other movie I hated as much as Independence Day...well, even more...was Pretty Woman (and I usually like movies with Richard Gere). The message that one delivered was as totally sick as anything I think I've ever seen onscreen.

The Dances With Wolves thing, Stilly? You say that "A lot of Indians felt betrayed by it." Well, yeah, I guess...no surprise to me there. Why do I say that? I've been hanging around traditionals since the late 70's, and I've never seen anything artistic done yet concerning Indians (whether done by Indians or not) that didn't cause a lot of Indians to feel betrayed.

I'm frankly getting a bit cynical about it. There are a lot of shoulders out there with big chips on them in medicine land, and it has proven utterly impossible to please them...again and again.

Believe me, you can love all that is Native American with your whole heart and soul, and tear your guts out trying to honor it in the best way you can possibly imagine...and still get pilloried for it by various people who are self-appointed super-Indians and are just so absolutely perfect and superior, that by golly, they are disgusted at how you have betrayed the purity of...blah, blah, blah...yadda, yadda. They even do it regularly to each other in the Medicine Lodge. I've seen it. The competition for legitimacy and acceptance on the Good Red Road can be fierce out there, and it carries its own share of hypocrisy and pretentiousness.

Now what did Kevin Costner do? He portrayed an Indian society in a profoundly sympathetic manner, and portrayed white society as ignorant, expansionist, corrupt, dirty and senselessly violent. He showed the gradual transformation of an ordinary white soldier into a man who felt that he truly was Indian to the very heart. He was humbled by the Indians. He admired them tremendously. They helped him, and when the opportunity arose, he helped them. That's brotherhood. It just naturally figures that they both had gifts to offer one another.

Beats me how it's a betrayal of Indians, but I'm not a bit surprised that some say so. Like I say, I've seen it happen before...every time anyone dares to touch the subject in a serious way. "Seven Arrows" is an extraordinary book, written by an Indian about Indians, and some of them think it's a betrayal too.

Well, you jut can't please everyone. And you know, opinions are often formed in people by the very first person they talk to about something, and it goes from there, reinforcing the first impression. All I know is I saw the movie, I'm a patriot to the Medicine Way, and I loved it. I did not feel betrayed. It wasn't perfect, but it was very good.

This is all just opinion, of course.

Windwalker was a neat little movie about Indians, and it didn't feature one single white character in the whole story, and it had one white actor, playing an old man, and about 8 or 10 Indians playing all the other parts, and most of the dialogue was in the Cheyenne language with subtitles, but some Indians still felt "betrayed" by that too. Yeah, I heard them yakking about it pretentiously at Rolling Thunder's camp after the show...I talked to him about it and he said they were just trying to make a big thing out of themselves, and it was a pretty darned good movie, which was what I thought. These people make me tired. Where do they get the time to be so perfect? If they even did a movie themselves about Indians, with total artistic control, half of them would complain afterward about how the other half screwed it up, I figure.

Not what I call "good medicine".

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:17 PM

Ah, Peter, I think you missed a small point there with the film. That just happened to be the day the did it. I can think of a lot of movies more worthy of burning than Independence Day. Tess, Clockwork Orange, and Force 10 From Navarrone to name a few.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 08:17 PM

"Independence Day" is such a piece of American crap. I especially don't like the idea that all the other nations of the world will somehow celebrate American Independence Day as their own liberation. If I could burn one movie of all the movies ever made, that would be my choice (not that I would).


yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,fred miller
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 07:35 PM

great kid movie--Fly Away Home
the Stone Boy
Tomorrow
dance movie--Strictly Ballroom
romantic comedy, sort of--broadcast news


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 02:54 PM

There are quite a few films that I own because they are masterpieces, or at least well crafted. However, I don't find myslf pulling them off to rewatch on a regular basis. The ones I know I've rewatched most regularly/recently:

Tales of Hoffman (the opera; a magnificent train-wreck of early sfx)
Horse's Mouth
King of Hearts
Nightmare Before Christmas (my teens' seasonal favorite)
Cowboy Bebop


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: jacqui c
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 02:43 PM

Little Hawk

The send up in Independence Day of all the cliches from previous sci-fi movies is what makes it so good. 'Now that's what I call a close encounter' always makes me laugh. The whole thing is a comedy with some fairly good special effects. And it doesn't scream out 'parody' like Mars Attacks. If I had to choose a favourite of the three films you mentioned it would have to be Deep Impact which looks at the psychological and, to a degree, philosophical effect of a major disaster on people. I enjoy the action movies but love the ones that look at how people tick and that one did it for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 01:10 PM

Every single one.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 11:49 AM

I'm still waiting for the 'How many CDs do you rehear' thread.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 11:45 AM

Little Hawk, that movie had a great cast, but blew it by engaging in the usual colonial discourse. A lot of Indians felt betrayed by it. Are you familiar with the story of Cynthia Ann Parker, mother of Quanah Parker? The whites who "rescued" her from the Commanche she had lived with for years refused to understand that she was truly happier with that life. Her life in the white community, which refused her pleas to let her return to her people, sounds utterly miserable. Costner just didn't get it.

I have heard good things about this latest Costner western, though true to form, I haven't been to a movie in ages so haven't seen it. I tend to wait till they come to my local library on video or DVD.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 11:11 AM

Stilly - Yeah, well, I'm crazy about Indians and that movie has more Indian stuff in it than most... :-) Some people seem to hate everything Kevin Costner is in, but I like some of his movies a lot. Ones I didn't like were "Bodyguard" and "The Postman". "Robin Hood" was so-so.

What really annoyed me to the max in Independence Day was that idiot fighter pilot (obnoxious black actor whose name I have forgotten at the moment) and the nonsense about the guy flying his cropduster into the alien ship's portal and the other nonsense with the guys smoking cigars whilst cunningly defeating the alien technology, and...Oh, god...where do I stop? Besides, I like space aliens. I automatically take offense at pretty well any movie that casts them as vicious, ugly, destroying monsters bent on conquering the Earth. If they wanted to conquer this little planet they could've done it a long time ago, in my opinion, and not even worked up a sweat. Just because people are treacherous and dangerous doesn't mean that everyone else is too.

But you're right...it's a matter of taste, that's all.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:58 AM

anything by Charlie Chaplin, especially "Modern Times" and "The Gold Rush".
The Jolson Story
Goldfinger
A Christmas Carol (preferably Alistair Sims, but I also enjoy Seymour Hicks 1935 version)
The Quiet Man
Woodstock
Wizard of Oz
M*A*S*H*


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:10 AM

Monsters Inc.
The Aristocats
Lady and the Tramp
(yes, I collect Disney movies! there are many other Disney flicks I watch often)
Lonesome Dove
Sleepy Hollow
The Long Riders
Shakespeare in Love
Ishtar
O Brother Where Art Thou
The Fellowship of the Ring
The Two Towers
It's a Wonderful Life (my fave movie of ALL time)
Christmas Story


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:06 AM

Ah! A good reminder! The film a friend and I seemed to take turns renting from the local grocery store until we finally found copies of our own was

Follow That Bird (Sesame Street)
We're also great fans of all of the Muppet movies

And two that are remarkable for so many reasons are

Babe
Babe a Pig in the City


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: muppett
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 08:26 AM

When my daughter was of pre school age her favorite film was Pete's Dragon, we were forced to watch that often the tape broke.

The films I enjoy watching again & again include, Kind hearts & coranets, The Ralway children, Oliver, Citizen Kane, all the Star Trek films, The first great train robbery.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 08:10 AM

Defending your life


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: alison
Date: 27 Oct 03 - 02:25 AM

Local Hero
The secret of Roan Inish
the Princess Bride
young Frankenstein
Brigadoon (I know the accents and the sets were awful- but I love Gene Kelly)
the Lost boys

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: AliUK
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 09:03 PM

Ou Auto de Compadecida ( great adaption of Suassuna´s book)
Any Bond movie not starring Roger Moore
Poltergeist ( when Spielberg was good)
The Explorers
National Lampoon´s Animal House ( I was Bluto)
Frankenstein ( with Karloff)
The LadyKillers ( Alec Guiness´s finest moment in my view)
The MAn who Came in From the Cold ( excellent )
Willow
Legend ( the only decent movie that little jerk ever appeared in)
Chicago
Moulin Rouge


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 08:54 PM

But Little Hawk, you named Dances With Wolves, which I consider a colonizing insult--it is certainly a matter of taste with this list (I haven't seen Independence Day to agree or disagree on that one).

I Remember Mama (Barbara Bel Geddes and Irene Dunn)
A Christmas Story
Pocketful of Miracles
It's A Wonderful Life
Scrooge (Alstair Sim)
Scrooge! (Albert Finney)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Carly
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 08:12 PM

Some of my favorites have already been mentioned:
Out of Africa
Robin and Marian
Moonstruck-the scene around the breakfast table never fails to put me on the floor laughing
Notting Hill

Some I've watched with the kids over and over, and still enjoy:
Fantasia
Shrek
Dumbo-amazing images of circus life
Paulie-everyone should see this

Some others I treasure and would always watch again:
Holiday-Hepburn, Grant and my favorite, Edward Everett Horton; for my money, better even than the Philadelphia Story
Some Like It Hot
Witness
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Somewhere in Time-Hopelessly romantic, but with gorgeous people and a glorious old resort hotel to look at, who cares?
Persuasion
Sense and Sensibilty-My favorite Austin film
Apollo 13-even though I know how it ends(I remember it really happening!) I am drawn completely into the story every time
Sleepless in Seattle- Did I say I liked Tom Hanks? Anyway, I have to be loyal to this one; the original author lived down the street from us.
Contact
The Abyss-the Director's cut; the first released version was cut to shreds
The American President
Four Weddings and a Funeral

I could go on...


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Phot
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 05:25 PM

As many as possible! But in no order,.........
The Italian job
Pretty woman
Notting Hill
Contact
Star Trek....1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,..You get the idea!
Kevin and Perry go large
The Blues Brothers
Blues Brothers 2000
All the Python films
The Pink Panther
Billy Elliot

I think I'd best stop here!

Wassail! Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 05:16 PM

I'm always puzzled that Independence Day makes it onto lists like this one. I consider it one of the absolute worst movies I've ever seen in my whole life! I could say something similar about Armageddon. On the other hand, I really liked "Deep Impact".

There is an important thematic difference between the last film and the previous two, I think. (I despise American flag-wavers and I like films about international cooperation on an equal basis...so there you go. I've never been taken with the notion of American good-ol'-boy-football-gridiron-culture saving the world...when in fact it is set on buying it out and conquering it.)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 04:01 PM

Little Hawk--I agree. I always knew that she was a terrific dancer and a good actress, but in that movie we saw her take a lot of risks.

The Thirty-nine Steps (Donat)
Rope
Shirley Valentine
Enchanted April


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: jacqui c
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 03:22 PM

Most of the films I've seen - there always seems to be something you missed first time round. In particular -

Independence Day,
A Matter of Life and Death
The Day the Earth Stood Still
LOTR
West Side Story
Deep Impact
Armageddon


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 02:32 PM

The Godfather (parts 1 & 2 - not part 3)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Blazing Saddles
Dr. Strangelove
The Usual Suspects


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Blowzabella
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 02:09 PM

Fairytale - A True Story
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (love Rex Harrison in it)
Yankee Doodle Dandy

The Haunting (the original)
Arsenic and Old Lace
True Grit
Wuthering Height (with Larry and Merle)
Any of the Ealing comedies

and Chicago has just joined the list


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 01:38 PM

Yeah. That's a brilliant comment on society. He and Shirley MacLaine played off each other well in that one. She's a smart lady.

"From Here To Eternity" is a pretty extraordinary film, LEJ. I think I'll go rent it and watch it again. Thanks for the reminder.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 01:09 PM

I love it when he meets the gang members on the street and tries to click them away with his tv remote.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 11:43 AM

No one has mentioned what I think is Peter Seller's best film: Being There.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: JennyO
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 10:52 AM

Not sure, Clinton. I recorded it myself off the TV a few years ago, but I wouldn't mind having a decent copy of it.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 10:50 AM

I love some of the old mysteries, both early and later Hitchcock. And early Katherine Hepburn and Bette Davis flicks. Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, and many old dance musicals (Eleanor Powell, Astaire, Kelly). I like some of the more recent dance musicals, though I must say that I tend to hold my nose when I watch Flashdance, the plot is just too too silly, but I like the dancing. Dirty Dancing is slightly more believable, and has great dancing.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 10:38 AM

"the TV series of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"

Has that been released on Region 1 DVD?


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Lanfranc
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 10:35 AM

"A Matter of Life and Death"
"Walkabout"
"The Italian Job" (Original)
"Jacques Brel is Alive and Well and Living in Paris"
"The Man from Laramie"
"Groundhog Day"

inter alia

Alan


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: JennyO
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 10:16 AM

Lonesome EJ, you took the words right out of my mouth about the Peter Sellers films. I would watch any of them again. My particular favourites, which I have rewatched and would watch again and again are:

The Party (probably my all-time favourite)
The Pink Panther Strikes Again (his best Pink Panther IMO)
I Love You Alice B Toklas

Other movies include:

Harold and Maude
Carry On Regardless
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Witches of Eastwick (in fact, just about anything with Jack Nicholson)
Phenomenon
Pontiac Moon
The Eighth Day (delightful French film)
Raising Arizona

and probably lots of others I can't recall right now.

Also anything Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, the TV series of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and in the future, I think I will want to see the Harry Potter films and LOTR films again too.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Midchuck
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 07:59 AM

I broke down yesterday and bought a DVD player, and a new Teevee with the necessary input jacks, and the flat screen.

I bought two DVDs to use to check it out: The Two Towers, which I'd seen once in the theatre, and National Lampoon's Animal House, which I'd seen as often as I could manage, over the years.

The Ring movies astonish me, because they are worthy of the books, and that hardly ever happens. Animal House is a favorite because I lived it (I was the guy that Belushi takes the guitar away from and smashes it).

Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: musicmick
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 01:26 AM

I am at a point in my life when I need the manipulative euphoria of a romantic comedy. Movies like "The American President", "Jerry Maguire"
"Moonstruck" now serve a thirst that once craved Bergman and Malle.
Me and my VCR curl up together for frequent sentiment and tearful, happy endings. I confess that, with some of my favorites, I fast forward to the really sappy parts like that line in "Jerry Maguire" when she says, "You had me at 'Hello'". I also watch old Roy Rogers movies over and over. They weren't westerns as much as they were musicals. I do so love Western Swing.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 01:50 AM

I've seen all of the Pink Panther films many times. In fact, anything with Peter Sellers is fair game for another go round. I love his Austrian sex therapist in What's New Pussycat. Wonderful Life and the Simms Christmas Carol every year of course. From Here to Eternity, which is one of the finest films of all time. Barton Fink, which is my favorite Cohen Bros film.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 01:03 AM

That would be As Good as it Gets.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Mickey191
Date: 26 Oct 03 - 12:36 AM

Shawshank Redemption
Pretty Woman
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Show Boat-1939 version
Quiet Man
How Green Was My Valley
African Queen
Cool Hand Luke
A Christmas Carol-Alastair Sim
Sabrina-Bogart & Hepburn

    AND---I need help with the title.-Jack Nicholson      & Helen Hunt. He's a neurotic, homophobic, she's      his waitress. Also one of the best little K-9s       in the movies.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 09:36 PM

I like the Woody Allen/Diane Keaton ones...just to listen to Woody whine and whine and whine! Besides, I like Diane Keaton. What she saw in him eludes me.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 09:32 PM

"It's a Wonderful Life", of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 09:29 PM

Robin and Marian with Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn.
Monty Python and the holy grail
Monty Python and the Meaning of Life.
The Bounty. Anthony Hopkins and Mel Gibson


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Micca
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 09:20 PM

some recent re-watched movies included
Heimat by Edgar Reitz
Heimat II by Edgar Reitz
Cinema Paradiso
the Sure Thing
Groundhog day
Dave
some James Bond Films
Tora Tora Tora
Three Colours , Blue White Red
any Eric Rohmer films
Nikita(French Original)
Leon
The day of the Jackal
The Count of Monte Cristo ( Gerard Depardieu, Made for French TV version)


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 08:54 PM

So, what else do you have in common with Woody Allen, Peter?


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Peter T.
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 08:44 PM

"Casablanca" (I am in the above 50 times club)

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 08:32 PM

Groundhog Day
A Fish Called Wanda
Windwalker
Dances With Wolves
Faulty Towers episodes

and probably in the future...the Lord of the Rings trilogy


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Gareth
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 07:28 PM

Well - I've taped a few over the years.

The Original "Italian Job"

The sound version of "All quiet on the Western Front"

"Zulu" - Ifor Emanuels singing can not be beat.

"The Cruel Sea"

"High Noon"

"Blazing Saddles"

In view of it's anti-intellectual content "Educating Rita"

"Memphis Bell" - a weepy for my mother, who was a land girl in East Anglia in 1943/4. No, I don't ask her why, but she confims that she dated the odd member of the 8th USAAF. And was told, occasionally, that he would not be back.

and given my sense of humour many a "Carry on ..." Film.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 06:16 PM

"How often do others rewatch films?"

Too often and too numerous to ever list here...


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Subject: BS: What films do you rewatch?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 03 - 05:17 PM

An unoriginal copycat thread to the "What books" thread, but one that should prove just as interesting I think.

Many on my list include the fave films of our kids we've seen over and over:

Princess Bride
Willow
Secret of NIMH
Tim Burton's films
and lots more too numerous...

But as far as the films I have rewatched over the years, just for myself:

Cheesy films:

Out of Africa
Dances With Wolves
Fried Green Tomatoes
Chocolat

Foreign (to the US) films:

Blue
Hedd Wyn
Eat, Drink, Man, Woman
El Norte

Documentary films (American):

Roger and Me
American Dreams
Harlan County
Strong in the Broken Places

I could go on and on. I rarely reread books. I don't regularly rewatch films, but do enjoy it every few months or so. How often do others rewatch films?


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