BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Musket waiting
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 06:31 AM

This is where you get the guidance to clamp down on hate and do more than just shout at criminals.

Bye Bye! Don't bend over in the shower!

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 09:59 AM

Compulsion doesn't really work too well. Anybody with a life style that exposes them to the risk of infection from HIV is crazy if they don't do everything than can to reduce the risk, and inexcusably irresponsible if they don't ensure they aren't liable to pass it, including periodical testing.   Of course some people are pretty crazy and irresponsible, but that can't be helped.

Not that different from driving really - we have laws requiring driving tests, and insurance, and barring people with some medical conditions or a history of bad driving, and it still happens.
...................

The assumption people seem to have that sexual orientation is fixed and exclusive, and doesn't involve any possible element of personal choice doesn't seem to fit with the results of surveys. It appears that in the States at least there are rather more people who would describe themselves as bisexual as exclusively gay or lesbian, and that most people who have had some kind of sexual activity with members of their own gender wouldn't see themselves as either.

The implication of that isn't that people should be harassed into being straight, but also that it's wrong to go the other way and tell them that they necessarily haven't that option if they choose, just because they've tried it the other way..

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 10:12 AM

Dave the Gnome: "GfS. With great respect and in the spirit of the thread, you are just an idiot."

Then maybe Bobert can explain his 'less than idiotic' rants about the Zimmerman trial, yet fail to comment on this tidbit of racism.
Maybe because 'racism' didn't really matter to him, OR he was just championing the exploitation of racism, but only when it's against blacks......which is racism itself!

Well, Dave, I DO have a little 'rep' on here for pointing out political hypocrisy....

...whats the matter?..cat got your tongue??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 10:20 AM

There were no idiotic rants from me on Zimmerman, GfinS...

We just have different values...

You think it's okay for a white guy to murder and unarmed black teenager for having the audacity to wear a hoodie and...

...I don't...

That's the entire story here...

Well, almost... You also have been an Obama hater going way back...

To any casual observer you come off as a racist...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 10:31 AM

...whats the matter?..cat got your tongue??

No. I think you will find that this phrase is to be used when someone does not respond. I have responded and the only difference this time is that it may have taken a few minutes. Some people do have real lives as well.

Why I believe you to be an idiot, GfS, is that you do not seem to live in the real world. In times gone you would have wandered around the village grinning inanely and frightening the horses. I do realise that this may not be your fault; it could be a result of substance abuse or medication; it could be an illness. In which case I should probably not mock the afflicted, but when those afflicted start to inflict their idiocy on someone else it is time to put a stop to it.

Now, once more in the spirit of thread, fuck off and take your delusions with you.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 10:42 AM

Bobert, with all due respects, they three teens shooting the Australian WAS racism, even with one of them posting racists tweets.....and if you were REALLY so much against 'racism' how come there was not even a peep from you? What happened to, "We do it out of love for our fellow man..."

Take a hard look at it, the 'politics' of this whole thing has made contradicting idiots, of what was once good decent people!..and have exploited the emotions of BOTH sides, to achieve their goals. What can't you see this???? OR do you just ignore it?
Do I need to pull up all your posts of 'poor little black guy on his way home with Skittles innocently shot by racist Zimmerman' and ask how does that differ from an Australian, jogging, being shot in the back, by guys posting racists tweets?????
..or do you have selective racism compassion??
Racism is racism..murder is murder....and hypocrisy is hypocrisy!
Take a stand...and FUCK the politics!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 11:12 AM

See, GfinS... You don't even get the story right... The racial makeup of the three people arrested in the shooting are as follows: 1 white, 1 half white/half black and the third black...

I'm sticking with my last post...

You are coming off as a racist...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 11:13 AM

Apples and oranges.

Three thugs of whatever color targeting a random person of whatever color are THUGS; racism is secondary.

A vigilante of whatever color targeting a stranger because "they always get away" clearly implying people of a certain color is racism.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 12:13 PM

The link between the racism in Goofus and his stance and the homophobia in Akenhateon and his stance is that of profiling before judging.

That makes the difference between acceptable and disgraceful.

Still. You can't educate pork.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 12:26 PM

Bobert:

"James Edwards, 15, Chancey Luna, 16, and Michael Jones, 17, have all been charged as adults in Lane's death. Edwards and Luna, both black Americans, have been charged with first degree murder, and will be tried as adults per Oklahoma law. Jones, who is white, was charged with using a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and with accessory to first-degree murder after the fact. He will also be tried in adult court, but is still considered a youthful offender. If convicted, Edwards and Luna face life in prison without parole. Jones, who wept in court as he tried to talk about the crime before being cut off by the judge, faces anywhere from two years to life in prison. Edwards and Luna are being held without bond. Jones's bond is set at $1 million."

"Tweets on Edwards' Twitter account suggest he is racist. On April 29, he tweeted "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM." On July 15, shortly after George Zimmerman was acquitted, Edwards tweeted "Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!:) lol shit ima keep sleepin shit! #ayeeee." "Woods" is a term used to denigrate white people. Yet Chief Ford, who has yet to see Edwards' social media, told the Daily Caller a hate crime charge is not likely. "I'm not discounting the stuff that's on there, but they do that for shock and effect," he contended.

The real shock and effect evidenced by this case so far is the deafening silence of the racial grievance industry along with their media and celebrity enablers who apparently see no way to exploit this tragedy. Jesse Jackson is the lone exception, if one considers a single tweet much of an effort. "Praying for the family of Chris Lane," Jackson said Wednesday on Twitter. "This senseless violence is frowned upon and the justice system must prevail." Not a word, however from people like Al Sharpton, Attorney General Eric Holder, or President Obama, all of whom were willing to weigh in on the Trayvon Martin case on numerous occasions."

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 01:38 PM

I work between 8 and 6, That's why I haven't responded Dave.

I'm finding it hard to follow what you are getting at, although rates in Afro Americans are slightly higher than whites, the rates are miniscule in both demographics.

I believe that any demographic in which infection rates are reaching epidemic proportions should be tested and contact traced. At the moment the only demographic which is so affected is MSM,
MSM means all men who have sex with men whether they be bi-sexual, homosexual,Afro-American, white yellow or green.

I sometimes use "homo" in place of homosexual and "hetero" instead of heterosexual, to save time in the morning....not as a derogatory term.


Ian.... how you waste your time is of no concern to me, you do as you please, I suppose I must wait for the midnight knock on the door :0)
You really do have a funny view of liberalism......

All these figures are in the public domain.....should I write to CDC and HPA warning them that the thought police are coming :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 02:28 PM

Bobert: "You are coming off as a racist..."

You better get the whole story....

...and I stand by MY last post..: "..or do you have selective racism compassion??
Racism is racism..murder is murder....and hypocrisy is hypocrisy!
Take a stand...and FUCK the politics!"

What's the matter, you can't live up to your double-standards?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 02:31 PM

Bobert: "The racial makeup of the three people arrested in the shooting are as follows: 1 white, 1 half white/half black and the third black..."

..and Zimmerman was 1/2 Hispanic and 1/2 White....are you saying that race had something to do with it?????????????????????
Which ones???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 02:31 PM

Ebbie, absolutely agree. People of bad character looking for an excuse to do what they choose to do. They are write offs in the quest for a better world. No need to politicize it. It does harm in fact, takes the focus off the evil of such acts, how they have no place in the world of good people.

Larry, wonderful, brilliant summation. Bobert, its serious and gets worse? What of it? Ever hear of "validation therapy"? It works with Alzheimer's. We accept that because we don't expect them to be cured. Likewise, we should stop trying to "cure" madness. It is a false promise and a lost cause. Give it to God.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 02:36 PM

Racism is racism, and it is independent from politics per se, but racists take political positions in order to push their racis ideas. Hence the moves in Southern politics to limit who can vote.

Racism is an attitude, not a political stance as such.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 03:03 PM

Firth: "but racists take political positions in order to push their racis ideas. Hence the moves in Southern politics to limit who can vote."

This wasn't about 'voting'..it's about murder...or didn't you read the story?
..and politics is politics....if your side of the politics is for all the people's benefit, and well being, why then has the Zimmerman backers, drawn a line??...and NOT about voting, but racism, and the murder of an Australian, SHOT IN THE BACK?..and the racists texts being sent??
Far more than the grey area in the Zimmerman case!!
This is out front...but the same promoters of hate in one case, just can't seem to make the correlation between the two....or do you HAVE to be partisan, and therefore hypocritical or stupid??...or can you find it within yourselves to call it like it is................WITHOUT THE SPIN????!!!!???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 03:30 PM

Goofball, wake up!

The ATTITUDE is the same..

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 03:52 PM

So this recent murder is justified because of it???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 03:55 PM

No. I didn't say that.

You're making things up, as usual.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 04:40 PM

GUEST 2:31PM

Hey, if a gay person wants to try to "shake it" there is no evidence that he or she can... But I'd be the last one to stand in their way... Live and let live...

It's you bag
Do what you want to do
I ain't gonna tell ya'
Who to sock it to...

BB,

Sorry, but I am still ignoring your posts so if you are spending the time writing them for me to read save your time for some thing else...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 04:42 PM

I work between 8 and 6, That's why I haven't responded Dave.


I was on about GfS, Ake, but I guess you are just so into slagging off gay men that you did not notice that.

As I sad to GfS earlier.

Fuck off.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 05:23 PM

Is that "it" Dave
You pose a question, when I have the civility to answer you, you tell me to "fuck off"

What happened to the respectful boundaries?
Don't ask questions if you don't want to here the answers.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 05:54 PM

I didn't make up anything..I just asked a question for you to clarify yourself. By you asserting that, You are the one still making things up. Get it right!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 06:46 PM

Don't be an idiot, Goofball!

(Sorry! I shouldn't be asking the impossible of people.)

Racism never justifies murder. In this case. Or in the Martin/Zimmerman case. Never!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Aug 13 - 07:36 PM

So the right wing noise machine has cranked up this GfinS story as it is making its way around the right wing talkers...

Guess this explains why GfinS was the first to put it out here...

Oh, isn't it funny/strange that GfinS says on one hand the he supports Dennis Kucinich but it is apparent that his only source of news is FOX???

Bad enough to sound like a racist but now we have the goods on where GfinS gets his news...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 12:23 AM

I said I like Kucinich because he seemed to have integrity....that's probably why Obama got the nomination...but Kucinich did cave into pressure on Obamacare..which he says he since regretted.

By the way, guys, here's some more of those 'voting rights' guys that you seem to excuse....and Bobert seems to think are entitled, because of past discriminations.. and Don regards as the 'foot soldiers' for 'activism'!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 01:39 AM

You must really be desperate, Goofball.

What does the story in your link have to do with voting rights?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Musket between courses
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 02:27 AM

Best joke so far on this thread.

Akenhateon wondering what happened to respectful boundaries.

It also says that The Health Protection Agency states the same as he does. Just in case anyone wondered if lying bigotry has a point. ...

Hate isn't a political stance. Tackling hate isn't either. It will be interesting to see if those charged with monitoring on line hate get around to seeing this post. I am aware that their workload is unfortunately high, but promotion of profiling groups of society in a derogatory fashion fits right up their street, if you'll pardon the freudism...

Oh by the way. Akenhateon. You called me a liberal. I didn't. Although I have no idea what upholding laws of decency and respect has to do with it. Do only "liberals" uphold the law then? When I worked as a regulator, I worked alongside The Health Protection Agency and can't recall helping them promote bigotry. Quite the opposite in fact. Moreover, how could I be Akenhateon's idea of a liberal then? After all, I held a warrant, investigated and prosecuted working under PACE. Not sure if that describes his view of liberal.

Tell you what. I'll combine my response and Dave's response, if he doesn't mind. After all he put it quite succinctly.

Fuck off you sick puppy.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 02:34 AM

Firth,(thinking he has a point): "You must really be desperate, Goofball."

(Actually not at all 'desperate'... like for what??)

Firth(continuing): "What does the story in your link have to do with voting rights?"

Firth: "Racism is racism, and it is independent from politics per se, but racists take political positions in order to push their racis ideas. Hence the moves in Southern politics to limit who can vote.

Racism is an attitude, not a political stance as such."

and that was YOUR response to my post: "Take a hard look at it, the 'politics' of this whole thing has made contradicting idiots, of what was once good decent people!..and have exploited the emotions of BOTH sides, to achieve their goals. What can't you see this???? OR do you just ignore it?
Do I need to pull up all your posts of 'poor little black guy on his way home with Skittles innocently shot by racist Zimmerman' and ask how does that differ from an Australian, jogging, being shot in the back, by guys posting racists tweets?????
..or do you have selective racism compassion??
Racism is racism..murder is murder....and hypocrisy is hypocrisy!
Take a stand...and FUCK the politics!"


Now the interesting thing is you guys went ape-shit over Zimmerman for what you perceived as a racist killing......and not a peep about these, until I threw it up in your faces. What's the matter?..they weren't racist 'enough'??...or were you just exploiting the Zimmerman/Martin crap because it could be used to promote more divisions, and therefore advantageous to your political 'side'???

As for me, I thought Zimmerman/Martin was a chain of bad decisions and misreading the moments...but this one is probably left over racism, from immature idiots with little of no good family upbringing, and doubtful if there was a loving father in the home. Whadya' think?

....or do you care? (It's not politically exploitable enough??)

GfS

P.S. Oh, and Bobert....my position is NOT right wing, at all..don't you remember?...You described yourself as a 'radical' left winger...and I pointed out to you that ANYTHING toward the 'center' looked far right to you...Remember???

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: akenaton
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 03:40 AM

Ian ...If you are an example of what directs or influences the health services, heaven help us.
It seems that your ideology has made you quite deranged.

Apply again as a customer.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Musket between courses
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 04:21 AM

Looking at the scars my poor greyhound had when he came to us, and his nervousness that still isn't fully away after 3 years, coupled with the email I get from the sanctuary each month outlining cruelty and a list of which trainers have been chastised by their own governing council, I'd be quiet about professional lives if I were you.

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 08:39 AM

Here's the deal, GfinS...

You were right on top of the most recent right winged blog-o-poo on the murder of the Australian as if this, like the Trayvon Martin murder, was fueled by race... I thought when first reading yoiur post that only you could twist a murder that had nothing to do with race into this justification of Trayon Martin's murder...

The over the next few hours it was apparent that this twisting was coming straight out of the right wing noise machine as I was reading other right wingers who I have to deal with at the WaPo with the exact same nonsense...

Then you claim to not be right wing... Well, You are repeating right wing blog-o-poo... You are what you eat and you are consuming way too much right wing blog-o-poo with no regard to logic, facts or basic reasoning... That's on you... Not me... Not Don... Not on liberals... Not on Trayvon Martin...

Here's an idea, GfinS... Next time you are inclined to reprot the very latest twisted bullshit from the right wing blog-o-poo'ers just take a moment to think, "Hmmmmmm, maybe I should hit the submit button after all until I figure out if this makes any sense"...

The problem you have, GfinS, is once you hit the submit button you gotta live with it... Slow down, man, and...

...think before posting...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 10:22 AM

Is that "it" Dave

Oh, no, I can do far better than that, Ake. How about "Stop fucking whinging you greasy lump of bat shit" or "Take your stupid ideas and stick them up your putrid arse". For a start that is.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 11:35 AM

Blah blah about all your right wing blog poo poo!
All I'm pointing out to you, and the other exploiter of exaggerations, is that both these recent murders, since the Zimmerman/Martin case, is that there is CLEAR evidence, that it had a racial element, from the murderers. Now that's a fact. The Martin case, went to trial and, the Martin family, their attorneys, Zimmerman, the prosecution AND the defense, AND the jury, ALL said that it was NOT racially motivated....but you guys insisted that it was. Now these murders come up, the texts of the tweets, are quite 'out front', and you guys don't seem so interested now, in the racial element, AT ALL!
You should ask yourselves, "Why not?"..I mean if your political views incorporate the best for ALL EQUALLY!..Shouldn't it?
..and if I didn't bring it up, you guys would have never even uttered a peep. "Why is that?"

But one thing that, in the overall rush to judgement, that was completely overlooked, and well, you know me, I think it had WAY more to do with ALL of these happening....and I doubt you'll find it much on ANY of the politically biased 'news' sources.
What ONE thing did the three murderers on the Australian man(Lane), The murderers of Delbert "Shorty" Belton, in Spokane, beaten to death, Zimmerman AND Martin have in common??

Come on now.....give it a whirl!! WHAT common denominator do they ALL have in common???

I'll give you a hint, political hacks will all downplay it!!

Come on, Don, jump in, give it a go, you're the guy with the 'smart' delusion....GUESS!

GfS

P.S. ..and I did 'think' before I pressed the 'Submit Button'....your turn!

Oh, and I haven't hit it yet........>>>>>>V

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 01:53 PM

I think Bobert pretty well nailed it.

Let's face it, Goofball, you're a politically ignorant bigoted Right Wing racist loony with bad grammar and no knowledge of punctuation or spelling and don't seem to be even aware of it.

But what else can you expect from someone who is so confused that he thinks "Moby Dick" is a novel about a guy with a venereal disease. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 02:22 PM

Firth: "I think Bobert pretty well nailed it."

Well he didn't.
Come on, what do they ALL have in common??..more influential than the racial issue.....(Jeez, how many hints do you need?)...being as they were all different races, or 'hybrids'...Come on..you can do it!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 03:30 PM

So—

In Spokane, Washington, two black youths robbed and beat to death an 88 year-old-man.

And you, Goofball, are trying to make something racist out of this!?

Two thugs—juvenile delinquents, who just happen to be black—commit a heinous crime, and that is ipso facto racist?

It is a crime, a brutal murder, and the element of race has nothing to do with it.

And—

The same for the three black teens in Oklahoma who shot the Australian jogger for "sport." They may have been racially motivated, but that certainly doesn't absolve them from committing a brutal and senseless murder.

Now—

In what manner does this excuse George Zimmerman for murdering a black teenager who is guilty of nothing more than going to a nearby convenience store, buying a package of candy and a cup of iced tea, and walking back home, and is murdered by a trigger-happy vigilante for nothing more than being black and wearing a hooded sweatshirt?

(And the jury's absolving Zimmerman has nothing to do with the FACTS. The JURY was prejudiced.)

In none of these cases should the murderers have been absolved, no matter WHAT their race.

And neither Bobert nor I have said otherwise.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Musket laughing
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 03:31 PM

I'll give you this much Goofus. You don't give up.

Snag is, you are not in therapy now and Don isn't your case worker, so you tend to get questioned more than when your rambling is listened to in order to assess you.

I looked at a hybrid myself last week. A Lexus. I ended up ordering a BMW though. It'll be landing in Blighty by the end of September. Hopefully, it has been anglicised. SatNav not much good in these Bavarian cars, they seem to want you to drive to Poland for some reason....

I thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 07:35 PM

Well I don't give up while letting these two excuse makers just make up bullshit spin....and refuse to answer a simple question...and this was downright hilarious...(if not pathetic!):

Firth: "In Spokane, Washington, two black youths robbed and beat to death an 88 year-old-man.
And you, Goofball, are trying to make something racist out of this!?
Two thugs—juvenile delinquents, who just happen to be black—commit a heinous crime, and that is ipso facto racist?
It is a crime, a brutal murder, and the element of race has nothing to do with it.
And—
The same for the three black teens in Oklahoma who shot the Australian jogger for "sport." They may have been racially motivated, but that certainly doesn't absolve them from committing a brutal and senseless murder.
Now—
In what manner does this excuse George Zimmerman for murdering a black teenager who is guilty of nothing more than going to a nearby convenience store...."

What a fucking spin!!!!
..and I'm NOT excusing Zimmerman..you said that, not me!...but you are excusing the other black on white crimes!! and disregarding the racist tweets that were sent, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON!!!

But all that, and you still didn't want to answer, the question of what did they ALL have in common?

Want to take a stab at it, instead of diverting answering, and spinning instead?

Take a shot, and stop looking like idiots who do everything, but answer.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 07:57 PM

Totally racist post...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 08:12 PM

Oh bullshit.... most of the post was quoting Firth...and YOU accuse ME of posting a racist post?????...get serious!...Oh, and what did they all have in common?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 08:23 PM

Nothing, other than the murder...

You were the one to take the right wing "eye-for-an-eye" right wing blog-o-poo crap and run with it before you had the facts...

Sorry, but you were wrong on the Trayvon Martin murder and now you are even wronger...

What next from you???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Larry The Radio Guy
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 10:06 PM

It's been a long time since anything intelligent has been placed on this thread. Lots of 'you said this' 'no I didn't', all punctuated with various insults.

I find it really boring.

Gnu had previously suggested that the disrespectful language being used in posts was one factor that has 'turned off' a lot of people who would be posting valuable and insightful information and opinions.

I'm wondering if that's what's happening to this thread?

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 10:58 PM

Yeah...while all the one sided,guys calling everyone a 'racist' who don't go along with their double standard take on racism, and spinning facts so much that even they can't make sense of what their spouting...we could get deeper..but Nooooo, we have to read this trite, politically based hypocrisy...THAT'S what makes it boring. Decent subjects are always hijacked into their, quasi-pseudo spin babble, and they do it intentionally, to avoid getting to the heart of anything, that they can't make a 'political statement' about.
I've been called a number of things on this thread, by the same people, who can't answer a simple question, or will NOT address something I post...and then resort to their lame tactic of calling names, as they fear getting out of their 'depth'. FACT!

Where's the beef?' was one...
What did they all have in common? was another....

Don posts that three black guys shoot a white guy in the back, for fun, (also because he was white), and it has nothing whatsoever to do with racism...a couple of blacks beat to death an elderly white guy, 88, and it has nothing to do with race..Zimmerman shoots Martin in self defense, as per the ruling, and they go bonkers! How about some equality, here...at least something lest than their worn out hypocritical spinning.
Sure, race has an element in all of them, but something bigger, that is out of the reach of politics, that they won't even broach...unless they can find somehow to exploit it politically...and they fall off the deep end, with tantrums....
We can do better than that..............................I think.
But for them, maybe not.....

Answers anyone, intelligent enough to get past the failing political rhetoric????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Aug 13 - 11:42 PM

Goofball, you are DELIBERATELY misinterpreting what I wrote.

I don't think other people who are reading this thread are misconstruing what I wrote the way you are. Which, once again, exposes either your stupidity or your hostility--or both.

Dork!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 01:05 AM

Racism plays a large part in all three of these cases, but the overriding issue is murder.

The case in which racism played the major part, both in the commission and in the court's decision exonerating the murderer, was the Martin/Zimmerman case, in which the murderer (a white man who "profiled" a black teenager) was set free.

Clear enough, even for you, Goofball?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: akenaton
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 04:49 AM

"Gnu had previously suggested that the disrespectful language being used in posts was one factor that has 'turned off' a lot of people who would be posting valuable and insightful information and opinions."

I'm wondering if that's what's happening to this thread?


That is what always happens Larry, when the conventional "wisdom", or the majority view on this site is put under pressure.

Your opening post described the "language being used and the way it was being used" rather than the subjects under discussion.
You appeared to welcome controversial opinions, as you did not want the forum to become "flat"

It is clear that some folks here do not want certain subjects discussed and will use any foul language, name calling, and even threaten criminalisation to have discussion stopped?

What say you?

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: akenaton
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 05:10 AM

One example, Dave asks me to clarify my position on Afro-Americans, when I do so, explaining that it is the rates of infection, not the demographic, which determine when I would favour compulsory testing, he tells me to......" "Stop fucking whinging you greasy lump of bat shit take your stupid ideas and stick them up your putrid arse".


Now is that an example of what you were referring to in you opening post?....If so I would appreciate you giving it a mention, or the whole thread becomes a complete waste of time.

I realise that in the application of "therapy" you find it counter productive to be on one side or the other, but that begs the question, why start the thread to begin with?

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 05:30 AM

You know very well that the bat shit comment was in response to the 'is that it?' question. Yet you still chose to attribute it to something entirely different. Not only morally bankrupt but also intellectually corrupt. You don't really have a lot going for you, do you ake? At least everyone can now see you for what you really are.

I have changed my mind about the greasy lump of bat shit. At least that can be useful for fertiliser. You have no use whatsoever.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Reinforcing respectful 'boundaries'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 08:22 AM

1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whew. What a rush.

Keep it respectful, folks.