BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 05:05 PM

Bipolar and schizophrenia, with all other factor factored out, convey @ 2-3x the chance of dying if you catch it. Not true for other psychiatric disorders. No added chance of catching it on the first place.

Some are thinking of reclassifying bipolar as an autoimmune disease with psychiatric symptoms.

Too many sources for another blicky. Google scholar bipolar autoimmune, bipolar covid, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 06:07 PM

"Bipolar and schizophrenia, with all other factor factored out, convey @ 2-3x the chance of dying if you catch it. Not true for other psychiatric disorders. No added chance of catching it on the first place."

Again, in English?

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 07:16 PM

If you are bipolar or schizophrenic and catch covid, the chances of you dying are 2-3 times greater than if you aren't.

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 07:59 PM

The jury is out regarding the causes of that. Homelessness, vaccine hesitancy, overcrowded housing conditions...and maybe some physiological or genetic differences. There's enough there, I think, to prioritise people with mental illnesses for the vaccine. If they'll take it...

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 10:09 PM

Sometimes what you think is just an off the cuff bias of your own imagination. I make those kind of guesses too but reserve absolute judgement.
In the medical research field there is a remarkable amount of fudging the figures, plagerism and false claims - more often by older established members. Big Pharma pays huge dividends to winners when profit motives are the real goal. Losers can be winners based upon sales and not effectiveness in a lack of regulation enviornment.
Sometimes the easiest cheat is to steal research from a non english speaking country and just translate into English as one's own work.

Sometimes a cigar is a real cigar.

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 12:21 AM

No, Steve, that's just it. They have the data now to have factored all that in. Bipolar and schizophrenia - separately from all the stuff that goes along with being seriously mentally ill - are associated with a 2-3x higher covid mortality, as the scholarly articles to which I directed the thread say. No other serious mental illnesses, for example, show the same immune problems.

Like I said, bipolar has an autoimmune thing going on. I had no idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 12:24 AM

As I had no idea that pot can protect you from infection in the first place. We are getting data on immunity out the wazoo. Pity the horse has already left the farm that neighbors the one whose barn door we're bolting...

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 04:45 AM

I'm pointing out that research on human reaction to substances must contend with a host of potential confounding factors, many of them environmental. In addition, the research must be undertaken according to the principles of science and of properly-conducted clinical trials. Keep us posted.

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 04:48 AM

The trouble with schizophrenia and covid is when both of you catch it.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 05:31 AM

Nice one, Doug, but I imagine you're thinking of ducking... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who got medical pot? Work? For what?
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 09:34 AM

When someone notices something new others don't, they are like a jack ass in a hail storm, they just have to stand there and take it until the storm passes.