BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 May 03 - 01:10 AM

Anyone else belong to Junior Great Books as a kid? I only went a few times.

Like you, Nicole, I didn't have anyone telling me I was too young for any of it, in fact my parents encouraged us to read anything and everything in our home library and, even more importantly, imo, we read aloud to one another.

I really lucked out in teachers, too, as I cannot think of one who ruined a classic for me in this manner, thank goodness!

Wouldn't the assignment have been a lot more fun and thought-provoking if they were told to create their own fictionalised version of Enron in their favourite genre...sci-fi, western, etc.?**bg**

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: NicoleC
Date: 01 May 03 - 01:30 AM

Home library? I just had the public one. The first day I distinctly remember looking forward to was my 5th birthday -- which was the age the library let me have my OWN library card! Mom faithfully carted me to and from the library once or twice a week, and I always left with a tall stack of books.

That stirs up memories! The first book I remember really having an effect on me was called "The Littlest Elephant." I can still remember the story and some of the pictures. I haven't ever been able to find it again, but I just did a google for it and found a "vintage" copy for sale. Which I propmtly purchased :) My friends' baby girl may like it... in another 3 or 4 years.

I guess good writers and good stories, like good teachers, never really leave us.

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 May 03 - 03:58 AM

Kewl find, Nicole! we used to make weekly trips to the library, too. I am pleased to say my daughter is doing the same with my twin grandsons.:-)

Well...it wasn't a huge home library, but both of my parents came from a long tradition of such. My maternal grandfather had the first lending library of any kind in the town where both fo my parents were born and raised in CO. I still have some of his books with his rubber stamped imprint in the front with his name, etc.

Let's see...first book I remember has to be my grandma and I reading Goldilocks together, then her reading to me from her copy of How to tell stories to children which stories she'd used as a teacher. She later gave me her copy. I also remember poetry books of James Whitcomb Riley.

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: fiddler
Date: 01 May 03 - 08:26 AM

Waht a thread, It gets more interesting from here - I can relate to the ruined a book by the analysis route - although I did tend to enjoy it usually - so I'm weird I don't mind, No1 Daughter doen't understand whay it has to be doen and switches off.

But first books - we had few at home my mother still refers to a magazine as a book but she is a geat mum and I won't criticise her for this. She also used to throw my books, aquired for Jumble sales, away when I was on Holiday or out of the house - she denies it of course.

Coral Island - Balantyre - a classic proabably more for boys than girls but I've lost count of the times I've read it, I have an old - now falling to pieces hardback copy. Probably classed as homosexually explicit now as there are few women involved and 3 boys on a desert Island - B*LL*X!

Much as I have enjoyed the JK rowling books I don't think they will ever fit in to the Classic mould.

I always found extrapolations like the one which spawned this thread are better if they are beleivable, or make a logical jump even the good Lord Denning in his day would never have made this one.

A
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Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 May 03 - 08:53 AM

Ya' know fiddler, you bring up a side point here in a way that is worth mentioning.

I'm sure I am not the only one who tends to perform up or down to the level of my own perception of the task. It's true in sports of course that people often play up to the level of the competition which is the reason dark horses win sometimes. They are inspired and the favorite isn't. It happens in everything.

I don't know that I could make any kind of credible effort on this assignment. I would have been honestly tempted to turn in exactly what I mentioned above and roll the dice. If my writing is being judged then I would prefer that someone reads a solid effort such as I could do by writing a synopsis or report on Stoker's work rather than the hodgepodge, half-assed, non-attempt that I would make following the assignment.

When I read Kate's report, some of that came through to me. Many of us could sit down with red pencil in hand and rip it apart but I really don't believe it is her best effort or actually indicative of her writing. Garg made some points in his inimitable and cruel manner that might be true, but I can't really tell nor would I make those criticisms without reading some other writings where she was more inspired. In the case of this one, as I said before, it was a serious job just to get the stupid thing done and now I would be breathing a sigh of relief that it's over! So Kate...sometime post something you've written that you wrote simply for the sheer joy of writing and we'll be happy to comment, rip it up, praise the bejesus out of you, and probably all three!

Spaw--who thinks your prof is an asshole and would have done far worse than you on this one

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: fiddler
Date: 02 May 03 - 03:39 AM

Spaw LOL

And Your probably right!

If there is any copy Sorch can send me I cna publish it too!

Me site is there for my use and I like this one.

More interesting than testing web sites.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 03 May 03 - 12:43 AM

OK- the MudCat admissions committee review is in:

The totaly B.S. catagory determines that a University Education, and higher education, or even seconday education is totally B.S. for this child.

Therefore, SORCHA - teach her cooking, cleaning, and chastity....pay a dowery for a husband.

For those that believe there is a future in the twiddling's education...contributions in $500.00 sums are being greatfully accepted....PM them to Joe, Kat, or Max.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

WANNBE - U's that would accept even YOU's are found at U's of: Phonix

Kaplan

Brooks

Minnesota

Michigan

Santa Cruz

Santa Barbara

Wyoming

Yes, even in your OWN BACKYARD - the bachelor of "health science" is freely available to those less than able.

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 03 - 02:03 PM

Garg,

Ya know, the way you keep slipping from one persona to another is entertaining as hell -- do you have any idea who the arrogant, condescending asshole with the cruel smartass attitude and the total lack of compassion who takes over your brain from time to time is, or where s/he comes from? Any chance you could maybe just send him back there, and get on with your life with the intelligent, communicative self we know is really in there? Do let us know -- we'd enjoy hearing that you found out who you are...

Sheeshe.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 May 03 - 03:36 PM

Well, the "the arrogant, condescending asshole" might be a completely different person using the same handle, which can of course be done easily enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 14 May 03 - 02:10 PM

Well, she got it back today--159/195=81%. Lots of red ink on it, and stuff I/we knew it needed, but I wasn't about to say anything that close to the wire. Thanks, friends!

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 14 May 03 - 03:10 PM

Well done Kate! I enjoyed reading it!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sorch needs help w/Bram Stoker
From: stevetheORC
Date: 14 May 03 - 03:10 PM

Well done very good result.

Keep up the good work.

Orc n Pushkin