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BBC Folk Awards winners?

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Ian Hendrie 11 Feb 12 - 08:03 AM
GUEST,SteveT 11 Feb 12 - 08:54 AM
Silas 11 Feb 12 - 09:15 AM
GUEST,Klumper 11 Feb 12 - 09:30 AM
Les in Chorlton 11 Feb 12 - 09:38 AM
Silas 11 Feb 12 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 11 Feb 12 - 09:45 AM
Les in Chorlton 11 Feb 12 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,John from Kemsing 11 Feb 12 - 10:18 AM
Owen Woodson 11 Feb 12 - 10:22 AM
Owen Woodson 11 Feb 12 - 10:26 AM
GUEST,Folknacious 12 Feb 12 - 09:51 AM
GUEST 12 Feb 12 - 12:04 PM
Les in Chorlton 12 Feb 12 - 01:03 PM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 13 Feb 12 - 05:54 AM
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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 08:03 AM

The Unthanks made me cry as well - can't stand their droning!


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,SteveT
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 08:54 AM

I enjoyed the programme although not all the winners or performers were to my personal taste – but why should they be.

What amused (?) me most was MH's parting comments

"Thank you to Radio 2 for what they do for folk music. I can think of no other broadcasting organisation in the world that would support music in the way that they do and in particular traditional music – They've done a great job."

Have I missed some programmes somewhere while I've been searching Radio Scotland, Radio Ulster and RTE etc?


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Silas
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:15 AM

Radio 2 has broadcast a one hour folk programme every week for as long as I can remember, it has hosted the Radio 2 Folk Awards for many years now. I think that is pretty good really.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,Klumper
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:30 AM

right then, so that's Donovan and Don Mclean honoured while they're still breathing.
So who's left for next year ?

John Denver - nope,

Cat Stevens - hmmm ???

Chris de Burgh - He's nice and inoffensive - a favourite with the mums and grans..

Peter Sarstedt - umm.. maybe keep him in reserve in case any front runners pop their clogs.

Gilbert O'Sullivan - yes, he wore a cloth cap and sang in a regional accent - He'd do.

What about Wotsisname, that American who had that song,
ooh who was it now, you know, it was in that Car Insurance TV ad ??

etc, etc..


The way this is going, 10 years from now, they might just even end up giving the bloody award to Alice Cooper or Iggy Pop !!!


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:38 AM

I just want the Spinners to given one for all they have done over around50 or 60 years

L in C#


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Silas
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:43 AM

"I just want the Spinners to given one for all they have done over around50 or 60 years"

Oh yes, I have been campainging for this for years. MH is on board, but who makes the decision?


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:45 AM

I'd like to put Ron Bankley and Bruce Murdoch forward for the Lifetime Achievement Award, for these two guys have been writing sensational songs for decades now.

Gilbert's performing in Torquay next week, apparently. (just thought I'd pop that one in)

Oh yes, and The Spinners, they should most definitely have one too..


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 09:46 AM

Thanks Silas - more power to you elbow - I guess MH has much more power than most.

I love the Dubliners but I feel the Spinners did so much especially early on in the 60s

Les


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 10:18 AM

Surely the music of Ray Davies and "The Kinks" is as valid an example of contemporary folk music of the time as anything we write and sing today. Who knows? Next year? Although not presented as that "genre" it seems to fit the bill.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 10:22 AM

I was delighted to see Bill Leader receiving a lifetime's award and can't think of anyone in this country who has done more to further the cause of folk music on record. But his acceptance speech contained one very important point; namely that nobody has ever given as much as a wooden nickel to Reg Hall for all the hard work he's put in down through the years. That surely is an oversight which deserves immediate correction.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 11 Feb 12 - 10:26 AM

Come to think of it, and do forgive me if a senior moment has got in the way here, but has Mike Yates ever received any recognition for his enormously important collecting and publishing work?


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,Folknacious
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 09:51 AM

I just watched the TV red button loop and I see they cut out MacLean's awful first song but they also cut out Steve Knightley presenting June & Oysters with their group of the year award. Now was that because the BBC thought it was boring that they won that many awards, or because Steve had a go at the BBC cutting local folk programmes, and venues who charge artists to sell their CDs? Shame, because those were good points. Anyway, you can hear that bit for a few more days on the radio iPlayer repeat - it's at 1:55:15 here


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 12:04 PM

They also cut out John Tam's political points and Stuart Maconie's mentioning of Ian Campbell as a Communist..


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Feb 12 - 01:03 PM

"25 years ago Thatcher was in power - we are going out again - unfinished business"

Wasn't that the core of what JT said? Seems totally appropriate in the context of JT and the songs he has written

L in C#


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards winners?
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 13 Feb 12 - 05:54 AM

Just a couple of comments....
Both Reg Hall and Mike Yates were awarded the Gold Badge of the English Folk Dance & Song Society.
Topic Records received the Good Tradition award in 2000, and , if my memory is correct, part of the reason for that was The Voice of the People, which Reg co-compiled with Tony Engle, and I think Reg went up on stage to receive the award with Tony Engle.

If the awards were all about the "folk industry" why did they give awards to Malcolm Taylor, Bill Leader, Ian Campbell....?

I think the reason for the Folk Club award being dropped was that it may have been difficult to get consensus from the artists they were asking to vote on the club.

Derek


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