BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)

Subject: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 09:50 AM

I waited two days to see if anyone else would comment about this case, but the silence was deafening.



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Ex-Official Accuses Justice Department of Racial Bias in Black Panther Case

Published July 06, 2010

In emotional and personal testimony, an ex-Justice official who quit over the handling of a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party accused his former employer of instructing attorneys in the civil rights division to ignore cases that involve black defendants and white victims.

J. Christian Adams, testifying Tuesday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, said that "over and over and over again," the department showed "hostility" toward those cases. He described the Black Panther case as one example of that -- he defended the legitimacy of the suit and said his "blood boiled" when he heard a Justice official claim the case wasn't solid.

"It is false," Adams said of the claim.

"We abetted wrongdoing and abandoned law-abiding citizens," he later testified.

The department abandoned the New Black Panther case last year. It stemmed from an incident on Election Day in 2008 in Philadelphia, where members of the party were videotaped in front of a polling place, dressed in military-style uniforms and allegedly hurling racial slurs while one brandished a night stick.

The Bush Justice Department brought the first case against three members of the group, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voter Rights Act. The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court. But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012.

In a statement Tuesday, a Justice spokesman said the civil rights division determined "the facts and the law did not support pursuing claims" against the two other defendants and denied Adams' allegations.

"The department makes enforcement decisions based on the merits, not the race, gender or ethnicity of any party involved. We are committed to comprehensive and vigorous enforcement of both the civil and criminal provisions of the federal laws that prohibit voter intimidation," the spokesman said.

The Civil Rights Commission, which subpoenaed Adams, has been probing the incident since last year. Adams said he ignored department directives not to testify and eventually quit after he heard Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez testify that there were concerns the Black Panther case was not supported by the facts.

Adams has described the case as open-and-shut and said Tuesday that it was a "very low moment" to hear Perez make that claim.

But he described the department's hostility toward that and other cases involving black defendants as "pervasive." Adams cited hostility in the department toward a 2007 voting rights case against a black official in Mississippi who was accused of trying to intimidate voters. Adams said that when the Black Panther case came up, he heard officials in the department say it was "no big deal" and "media-generated" and point to "Fox News" as the source.

But as the investigation unfolded, he said he discovered "indications" that the Black Panther Party was doing the "same thing" to supporters of former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary season in early 2008. He urged the commission to pursue testimony from other Justice officials to corroborate his story.

It's unclear how far the commission will get. The commissioners want to hear from Christopher Coates, the former chief of the Justice Department's voting section, but the commission claims the Justice Department is blocking Coates from testifying about why the case was dropped.

In a written statement last week, the department questioned the motives of Adams, now an attorney in Virginia and a blogger for Pajamas Media.

"It is not uncommon for attorneys with the department to have good faith disagreements about the appropriate course of action in a particular case, although it is regrettable when a former department attorney distorts the facts and makes baseless allegations to promote his or her agenda," the statement said.

Adams said Tuesday that his personal views played no part in his handling of the case. He also said he did not fight to testify before the commission but resigned after the department would not take action to quash the subpoena.

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Apparent source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/ex-official-accuses-justice-department-racial-bias-black-panther-case/
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:15 AM

Same old shit on a different day. Nothing but trolling from the trollmaster of Mudcat.

People will comment and try to discuss.......Bill D. will be along and Bruce will fall back on the same worn out whining and bullshit that he uses all the time when he's crying over the plight of the crapass Repubs and their failurre to defeat Barack Obama.

Let's move along now folks......Nothing to see here......Bruce wants you to piss into the wind but I suggest you stay dry and piss on him instead by not playing!


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:29 AM

I always figured that Bruce secretly liked golden showers.....

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:35 AM

"I waited two days to see if anyone else would comment about this case, but the silence was deafening. "

Did I miss something? Where is Bruce's comment?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:39 AM

I guessed right again!

I always know a bearded bruce thread by its screwy skewed title.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:42 AM

My comment is that Obama's DOJ has a policy of NOT pursuing any Civil Rights case where the victim is white, and the accused is black. And it is lying to Congress about it.

But I guess that is OK, since it is not Bush...





Amerigin-

Not everone has your taste for excrement.




Spaw,

You insist on attacking me, rather than discussing the subject. I hate to see you give up and admit I am right so easily- TRY top think of something other than attacking the poster when you disagree with them.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:03 AM

Jesus, BB, you are a real piece of work, aintcha?

Another turd story from Faux News(notice you didn't mention that)

Please do read some of J. Christian Adams stories/postings on Pajama- party Media; he's obviously trying for the Glenn Beck Accuracy In Reporting Award.

The Bushies screwed up & took a case to trial they didn't have evidence to prosecute and you're blaming it on the Obama Admin?

Get your meds adjusted.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:11 AM

GregF,

YOU state:
"The Bushies screwed up & took a case to trial they didn't have evidence to prosecute"




"he Bush Justice Department brought the first case against three members of the group, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voter Rights Act. The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court."

They had ALREADY WON the case.




YOU are a real piece of excrement, aintcha?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:20 AM

To repeat the rants of Beck, Levine, Limbaugh and other Luny Lunkheads is for losers.

They will make you feel a fully fucked fear for freedom's fate.


But they will not make you correct or happy in your life.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:22 AM

If the Obama Administration "won the case", genius, then what's your problem ?

By the way, is this case anything like the fundagelicals in front of abortion clinics hassling & terrorizing clients & interfering with theie civil rights??

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:40 AM

GregF,

this is getting tiring.

" The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court. But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012.
"

They dropped the case BECAUSE THE DOJ did not want to prosecute were the defendent was white.

Civil rights are dependent on the color of the victim, it seems.

Great precedent to have, don't you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:58 AM

First you say:
"My comment is that Obama's DOJ has a policy of NOT pursuing any Civil Rights case where the victim is white, and the accused is black. And it is lying to Congress about it."

Directly above you say:
"They dropped the case BECAUSE THE DOJ did not want to prosecute were the defendent was white."


????????????????

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:01 PM

The case, bb, seems fairly mild. It appears more to be a violation of ordinances governing activities close to a polling place.

The "deadly weapon" was ONE nightstick.


"They dropped the case BECAUSE THE DOJ did not want to prosecute were the defendent was white."

?? That statement appears to be a leap. It must be painful to live in your head.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:03 PM

note the sources

...I think we may not be getting all of the story. Faux News is not exactly renowned for mentioning all of the details.

Can YOU say "spin it!"?

"They dropped the case BECAUSE THE DOJ did not want to prosecute were the defendent was white."

Even IF (note the *IF*) this was true, what does this have to do with Obama? Why would it not just be about one prejudiced official?

I'd bet we hear more..

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:04 PM

ho hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:24 PM

Like I said above......................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:27 PM

Is he talking about the ace of spades?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:30 PM

1. The DOJ has a policy of NOT pursuing cases where the defendent is black and the victim is white- per testimony to the US Civil rights commission by the one lawyer who quit.

2. The DOJ has blocked any other testimony from the lawyers it presently has to the USCRC.

3. The case had already been won, and the lawyers were told to drop it.

4. There is testimony from a civil rights lawyer ( who was on Kennedy's election team) that the racial slurs and threats were made- and the video tape supports the threatening use of the club.



If there are those here that think it is ok to NOT prosecurte civil rights cases because the defendent is black and the victim is white, I'm sorry for you. I hate to think of what the backlash would be- it will set civil rights back at least 50 years.




Ebbie,

"The case, bb, seems fairly mild. It appears more to be a violation of ordinances governing activities close to a polling place.

The "deadly weapon" was ONE nightstick."


Hey, in the south it was "Just one burning cross", so it must be ok????? Calling a distinguished civil rights lawyer ( a Democrat, NOT Adams) a "Cracker" and acting in a threatening manner is OK by you????

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:35 PM

"to prosecute were the defendent was white."

Should have been

to prosecute were the defendent was black, and the victim was white."

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:40 PM

Yes, Bruce, you're right. Prosecution was dropped because these people only see civil rights from one dimension.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:44 PM

It sounds to me like a typical situation of "it will cost too much to prosecute compared to the results, so let's not bother", combined with a plea bargain.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:53 PM

I took one look at the thread title and I knew right off who had started it.

If Obama doesn't clip his toenails regularly, we'll be hearing about that, too.

The problem is twofold:

1.    Obama's the wrong color.

2.    He won.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 12:59 PM

That's like saying a Zebra is the wrong color!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 01:02 PM

Hey, in the south it was "Just one burning cross", so it must be ok????? Calling a distinguished civil rights lawyer ( a Democrat, NOT Adams) a "Cracker" and acting in a threatening manner is OK by you????"

bearded bruce, where in the forgoing did you cite this statement?

AS for equating one nightstick with one burning cross, Bruce, give it a rest.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 01:27 PM

Art,

The DOJ HAD ALREADY WON THE CASE.

The lawyers were directed to NOT go to the judge and tell him/her what the desired punishment was to be, but to DROP THE CASE after winning the judgement.


Ebbie,

I am sure that we can now ignore ANY claims by blacks about people threatening to beat them with night sticks, according to you.

If it is now ok to deny civil rights based on skin color, I hope you are all happy when the next president gets elected, and applies this presedent that you all seem to approve of.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 02:47 PM

Where did Ebbie say that ANY claim should be ignored? Where did anyone say that they approve of the handling of this case ACCORDING TO FOX'S VERSION OF THE STORY? You're trolling again, Bruce.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 02:56 PM

Sinsull,

The attacks ON ME for posting a civil rights violations by thisadministration seems to indicate a complete acceptance by many here that it is ok to NOT prosecute blacks for civil rights violations against whites.

I would like to point out that the precedent, once accepted, will lead to undesireable consequences.

Besides being unfair and racist.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 03:01 PM

Calling a distinguished civil rights lawyer ( a Democrat, NOT Adams) a "Cracker" and acting in a threatening manner is OK by you????"

bearded bruce, where in the forgoing did you cite this statement?


In the actual interview, with that lawyer- the campaign manager for one of the Kennedy presidential campaigns. But then, since those here have judges that anything on Fox MUST be false, they will not even look at it-

I seem to recall a number of claims ONLY by opposition press to Bush- yet any attemopt to ignore them as being biased was laughed away.

Looks like bigotry to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 03:39 PM

As I read the original quote, and ignoring anything referenced later that is added in without being cited, the Justice Department won a default judgment because the defendants failed to appear at trial. This happened some three months after Mr. Obama's inauguration and less than a month after Mr. Holder became Attorney General. The Justice Department under the new administration apparently looked at the evidence (again, according to OP's original post) and decided that ""the facts and the law did not support pursuing claims" ". I suppose that, considering that the defendants are (presumably) dark-skinned and the blogger who is complaining about this nonsense is (presumably) light-skinned, he would have believed that pursuing any case initiated by the previous administration, regardless of its merits, was appropriate.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 03:58 PM

Art,

1. YOUR comment assumes that ALL whites are raciost- and I find that to be in bad taste.

The point was that the video and testimony show a clear violation of the civil rights act- and Obama DOJ officials have decided that blacks are not required to obey that law.

Let's let the US Civil Rights Commission actually talk to the lawyers involved- which the DOJ has prevented so far.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:00 PM

Here's what comes through from BB to summarize his argument:

Waaaa.......Waaaaa........Isn't fair.....no fair..no fair.......You all were so mean to poor Bush and now you are mean to me and defend that nasty ni, er,uh, Obama guy......No fair......Waaaaaa...Waaaaaa.......I gonna' go and get more straw.....and Glenn Beck too!!!!..........Waaaaa......Waaaaaa......


Of course I may just be imagining it...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:12 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/us/07rights.html


A slightly different presentation of the case.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:27 PM

But OBVIOUSLY the NYT is a biased source, so, a la many here I can just ignore whatever they say. That seems to be the preferred method of dealing with determining truth, as far as I see it being done here at Mudcat.

Thank you for the posting- but I saw the videotape and the interview with the Kennedy campaign manager. Did you?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:31 PM

I read the Fox report and I read the NYTimes report. The real story is somewhere between the two. I posted the link for anyone who cared to read it. Did you?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:33 PM

Oh Sins.....That just can't be right! Why BB has his straight from the horse's ass mouth at that bastion of freedom and truth, Faux News. And here you are with some lame Times piece. How could you? I think Fox should join the print media with the Times and Post so people will take them seriously!

Geeziz......What a thought. Ya' know though, if Fox went print, they would be come the complete source..........for wrapping fish, little puppies piddle papres, bird cage liners, and even as the occasional, emergency asswipe. As things are now the only asswipes they provide are their followers...................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:46 PM

Spaw,

So you have a permanant position at the Obama administration, then?

I figured with your obvious expertise in BS, you would be the White House Spokesman by now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 04:49 PM

BB does a much better job of authenticating the whine than those who cite counter sources.

"Published July 06, 2010" but WHERE AND BY WHOM?

The first rule of propaganda is to never reveal a source. Just make a claim and rant about it.

Maybe the reason no one else started a thread is that nobody else listens to or reads your choice of lunatics?

PDFTT.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 05:28 PM

Yeah, okay, I too knew this was a BB thread because of the way it was worded...

First of all, given the Bush messes that Obama is still trying to clean up I find it amazing that anyone would expect him to be all over a relatively low level DOJ decision but...

...secondly and more important I though this thread was going to be about the DOJ taking Arizona to court over its racial profiling immigration policy that is about to go into effect... That is a 100 times more story than this "Faux" story...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 06:54 PM

Yes, and hopefully Arizona wins that suit and lights the way to save North America.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 08:05 PM

Rigs, Rigs, Rigs...

Hey, pal, me thinks yer driftin' too far from the shore...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 08:05 PM

Yeah, right!

And take another (goose) step down the road to Buchenwald. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 09:31 PM

Just want to save the planet, that's all!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 09:41 PM

I don't know that I see the need for the addition of (opinion thread) to the thread title, although I think something needs to be done about thread titles that are obviously propaganda. Maybe it would be better to just put the thread originator's name next to the thread title.....


Bruce, you can post all the propaganda you want in your messages, but keep it out of thread titles, willya? You're one of the worst offenders. We are a discussion forum, which means people are allowed to discuss all sides of an issue. A propaganda title serves to start the thread out with a slant.

Oh....and when you copy-paste information, be sure to cite your source.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 10:23 PM

While I realize that this is entirely off-topic, just how does preventing the citizens of one country in North America from entering another country in North America save North America?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:14 PM

Don't complicate the issue, Art. ;>)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 12:02 AM

I think what we have here are a couple of guys vigorously riding their hobby horses, under the assumption that they're actually going somewhere.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:07 PM

OK, since the "Obama is God " group insists that they do not acknowledge Fox, here is another article:

____________________________________________________________________
Ex-Justice Dept lawyer says whites' rights ignored
By JESSE WASHINGTON (AP) – Jul 1, 2010

PHILADELPHIA — Witnesses described an ugly scene: Two members of the New Black Panther Party threatening white voters the day Barack Obama was elected president, flinging insults like "white devil" and "you're about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

The fallout from the case has become even uglier. Most charges against the men were dropped for lack of evidence, the U.S. Justice Department says. Now a former Justice Department lawyer is accusing his ex-superiors of ignoring white voters' rights and creating a systematic "one-way" approach in which only minorities are protected.

The claims by J. Christian Adams are the latest installment of a long-running dispute over Justice Department enforcement of the nation's civil rights laws. It's a political fight over such volatile accusations as black-on-white racism, double standards and payback — issues that are magnified with black men serving as president and attorney general.

"To some, the civil rights laws are not meant to protect all Americans, they are meant to protect certain Americans," Adams, a conservative who helped prosecute the case against the New Black Panthers, wrote in a June 28 essay on pajamasmedia.com. He quit the Justice Department on May 14.

Adams declined to speak with The Associated Press on Thursday. He told Fox News earlier, "There is a pervasive hostility within the civil rights division at the Justice Department toward these sorts of cases" where blacks are accused of discrimination."

Department of Justice spokesman Tracy Schmaler said the law is enforced equally for everyone and that the charges against the New Black Panthers were dropped because they were not supported by the facts or the law.

"We continue to work with voters, communities and local law enforcement to ensure that every American can vote free from intimidation, coercion or threats," Schmaler said.

On Election Day 2008, King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson dressed in black uniforms of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, whose website recently made such statements as, "the white man has kept us deaf, dumb and blind, and used every `dirty trick' in the book to stand in the way of our freedom and independence."

The men stationed themselves near the entrance to a polling place in a largely black neighborhood. Shabazz carried a nightstick. Their actions quickly came to the attention of police, who told Shabazz to leave but allowed Jackson, a certified poll watcher, to remain.

Shortly before President George W. Bush left office, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the two men, the New Black Panther Party and its leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz. The defendants never responded to the government's lawsuit, which had the same effect as a guilty plea.

Before any penalties could be handed down — and after Obama appointed Eric Holder to run the Justice Department — charges were dropped against everyone but Samir Shabazz. The court prohibited him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any Philadelphia polling place through 2012.

The Justice Department has explained this decision by saying that Jackson was a certified poll watcher who did not carry any weapons, that the New Black Panther website denounced the actions in Philadelphia and that the group had no national plan to intimidate voters.

Adams says it should have been an open-and-shut case and that numerous "career" Justice Department attorneys — as opposed to those who come and go with each administration — agreed that the New Black Panthers clearly intimidated voters.

He wrote that some people see selective enforcement of civil rights laws "as a backdoor way to achieve reparations for slavery and discrimination. If the American public won't tolerate monetary reparations, which they won't, then a one-way approach to civil rights laws is seen as the next best alternative."

"This aggressive one-way approach toward the civil rights laws is central to understanding why the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party was dismissed by the Obama Justice Department," he wrote.

Adams' claims are rooted in decades of ideological battles over the Justice Department that were fought as overt racism waned and the wisdom of laws aimed at helping minorities began to be questioned.

Ronald Reagan's administration drew much liberal criticism for its enforcement priorities, as did Bill Clinton's from conservatives. Last December, a Government Accountability Office report documented what Democrats called reduced enforcement of major laws against discrimination and voting rights during the Bush administration.

Now it's the conservatives' turn.

"There's a fair amount of evidence, from this case and others, of a belief that these laws should only be used to enforce the rights of minorities," said Jennifer Rubin, a contributing editor at Commentary magazine who has written extensively about the New Black Panther case. "That's a matter for public debate, and perhaps great concern."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i6PlcZeiW_Nucd6_I72lQV6BEi4QD9GMHAS82




Now, can we discuss the issue instead of me? Or is there no justification for these acts, and someone in the DOJ should be fired, and possibbly prosecuted?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:21 PM

The discussion is only about politics as usual and not on how to get past THAT.....The word is revo;ution.

This is politics as usual:


Adams' claims are rooted in decades of ideological battles over the Justice Department that were fought as overt racism waned and the wisdom of laws aimed at helping minorities began to be questioned.

Ronald Reagan's administration drew much liberal criticism for its enforcement priorities, as did Bill Clinton's from conservatives. Last December, a Government Accountability Office report documented what Democrats called reduced enforcement of major laws against discrimination and voting rights during the Bush administration.

Now it's the conservatives' turn.


Next...................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:46 PM

Spaw,

A fair comment, but the accusation requires investigation.

As did any BY LIBERALS about the actions under a conservative administration. To ignore it is to undermine the entire idea of whistleblowers, as well as the fairness of the law.


The POLL WATCHER who came outside ( after being told by the NBP not to) called the police.

To accept this without investigation means that the next time blacks are prevented from voting by intimidation, the DOJ has established a precedent that it is ok.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's DOJ plays race card (opinion thread)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 02:58 PM

"Obama's DOJ. . . ."

Actually, the Department of Justice is full of Bush administration hold-overs, and if Obama is remiss in this matter at all, it's that he didn't adequately shovel out the stables.

Bush-Era DOJ-er Stoking New Black Panther Case
By Zachary Roth

It was always going to take more than a few speeches by Eric Holder to clear out the rot of the Bush-Gonzales years at the Department of Justice. And sure enough, it looks like DOJ lawyers hired during the last administration are still making mischief for the current one.

Meet J. Christian Adams. He's the Civil Rights Division attorney who, according to Main Justice, helped bring that voter intimidation case against members of the New Black Panther party, stemming from an Election Day incident.

The case was dismissed in May, with DOJ officials saying the evidence was weak, and the incident isolated. But it -- and Adams himself -- are still causing a headache for the department.

That's because the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, currently dominated by conservatives, has been investigating DOJ's decision to drop it. And, reports Main Justice, Adams is in conflict with his Obama administration bosses over whether he's obliged to comply with a subpoena from the commission on it. The Justice Department has said it doesn't have to comply, and has ordered Adams not to testify until a final decision has been made. Adams counters that not doing so could expose him to the risk of jail time.

But a fear of prison may not be the only reason Adams is eager to testify about how the case he helped bring got shelved. According to Main Justice, he was hired to the Civil Rights Division in 2005 by none other than Bradley Schlozman, the Bush appointee who, as acting head of the division in 2006, was found to have violated rules against politicized hiring, then lied to Congress about it.

Adams is also a former volunteer with the right-wing National Republican Lawyers Association, which just today charged that the Holder Justice Department's stances on both the Panther case and the ACORN funding case show that "politics can thwart the rule of law."

And in 2004, as a Bush campaign poll watcher in Florida, Adams publicly criticized a black couple that refused to accept a provisional ballot, after election officials said they had no record of the couple's change of address forms, Bloomberg reported. Voters had been warned not to accept provisional ballots, because of the risk that they could later be discounted.

We don't yet know how the stand-off over the commission's New Black Panther probe will play out. But one thing is clear: the fight to end the Bushies' politicization of the Department of Justice continues.

Despite the AP story that BB posted, AP also reported that J. Christian Adams refused to talk to them, but he did talk to Fox News.

And now, as Paul Harvey used to say, you know the rest of the story.

Don Firth