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Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...

GUEST,Håvard 01 Aug 00 - 10:51 AM
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Subject: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: GUEST,Håvard
Date: 01 Aug 00 - 10:51 AM

I'm looking for the lyrics to a Aberdonian/Dorian song. Probably a nightmare to sing (and for a Norwegian - to understand). It's set to a jig I think, and no - it's not in the DT.

Here are some of the fragments I've been able to dechiffer and remember:

"...alang cam' a lassie, and she offered me a kiss - an offer I would never think of scorning..."

"...tall lassies, short lassies, big lassies, wee lassies, all sort of lassies..... but the flow'r o' them all was little Peggy (?)...."

"... now, you never saw a horse like my old horse Bob....."

"...... head as yellow as a big Swed nepe...."

Håvard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Aug 00 - 10:53 AM

This sounds great! What is a Dorian? Or rather, where is a Dorian from?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: MMario
Date: 01 Aug 00 - 11:07 AM

*aaaaarrrrggggghhhhhh!* I have HEARD this before..but have no idea what the title is....or who does it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: GUEST,Håvard
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 10:24 AM

Not sure about how Dorian is defined... as an accent of people from Aberdeenshire or in terms of the many peculiar words and rhymes? Surely someone knows!

Håvard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: GUEST,Håvard
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 10:47 AM

of cource... when I say dorian I mean DORIC (embarassed)!

Håvard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: big48mama
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:20 PM

Guest, Dorian in music is one of the modes starting on the second scale. Like in key of C, it would be from d to hi d, not sharps/flats. "Shady Grove" is in the dorian mode. The major songs of today are in Ionian and the minor songs are in aeolian. I'm a music teacher and know about this. Hope it doesn't confuse anyone.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:31 PM

Well, it did me, but I think I have it now. Talking about a type of verbal accent, right?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: alison
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:45 PM

"but the flow'r o' them all was little Peggy " is from the bonnie lass of Fyvie

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: GUEST,Håvard
Date: 03 Aug 00 - 06:57 AM

I actually know the difference between dorian and doric... just that I mix them up sometimes (usually when I'm much less sober than this).

I've heard the song you mention Alison, but unfortunately it's not the one I meant.

Håvard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: GUEST,Håvard
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 11:42 AM

refreshing


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: little john cameron
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 11:55 AM

Disnae sound much like a tung tweester tae me Havard,but then mah tung is permanently tweested.Ah'll hae a raked aboot in mah vast repertoire o useless knowledge an see whit ah can come up wi.If ye are interestit in strange Scots vocabulary ah've got a dandy that has been bamboozlin fowk wi fur years.Ah'll type it oot efter ah hae mah denner. LJC


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Subject: Lyr Add: BONNIE JEANIE
From: little john cameron
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 09:14 PM

BONNIE JEANIE

O ken ye Wullie Broon, Jeanie,
O ken ye Brulzie Glen,
Wi the haslock on the brig, Jeanie,
A' bu ca fu big ben?

Whaur's the loof, noo, Jeanie?
Whaur's the bannock, Jo?
My luv's a blearit caulsie, Jeanie,
An' the gutchers doit sae low.

Snaw white wis her hert, Jeanie,
Waulkin doon the warl.
The midden-creels a' bracht, Jeanie.
The loof's anint the sparl.

Sair rins the Tees noo, Jeanie,
Deevin through the glaes,
But a mons a mons a mon, Jeanie,
Wi'oot a guidmans claes.

Sair rins the Tweed hoocht, Jeanie,
Blithe towmond, bonnie skirl,
The Snowther's blate the criffe, Jeanie,
Wi' birkie frae the sirl.

O ken ye Wullie Broon, Jeanie?
Whaur's the limmer noo?
Flicht stricht the bricht licht fa's, Jeanie,
An' mony mair tae you.

Noo this "poem" is scrieved in Broad Scots an no "Doric" but the best a could dae at short notice.
Mibbe oor panel o resident experts can translate it intae standard English. LJC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: little john cameron
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 10:55 PM

Thank ye agin PENE.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: little john cameron
Date: 17 Aug 00 - 11:32 PM

Whit dae ye think o that then? ljc


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 12:42 AM

Quite a poem. I shall study it intensively, investigate for the possibility of significant prime (not cardinal!) number arrangements, etc., and then get back to you with a full explanation.

Or not.

Wait and see.

Even now it hastens to the print head, and is about to assume visible, tactile form on my desk. Ah! The miracles of modern science!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: Kim C
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 10:13 AM

Well, now, I said in Mr. Crosbie's thread that I could understand you perfectly. But I am not "versed" enough in Scots dialect to understand this, although I picked up a couple of things....... :)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: little john cameron
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 11:08 AM

LH, dinnae forget the Sacred Geometry in the spacin o the vowels.
Wid it no be easier tae jist print it aff?
Ah'll gie ye the Enigma code tae it later.Dont yase up too much grey matter on it tho as it is meant tae be understood intuitively raither than wi the intellect. ljc


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 04:40 AM

little john cameron,

I don't understand it with either my intellect or my intuition, but it looks like it would sound beautiful when read out loud. Is it about boats?

Carol


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dorian Toungetwister...
From: little john cameron
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 11:30 AM

Hi Carol, ye won the prize.Hae a wee gander at explanation o the poem in conversation wi Brendy,If ye go tae this site ye see the translation o maist o the words.Haslock fur instance is the wool aboot a sheeps throat. When ye pit aw the words thegither it soon becomes obvious that it disnae mak sense.Ye're richt tae aboot how it sounds when spoken oot lood.
Here is the addy fur the dictionary.http://members.xoom.com/MkeBurnsClub/glossary/gloss_a.htm
Jist a wee bit o fun,some folk hae nae sense o humour.Ye could also drap intae the chat room an see some o the conversations we hae wi each ither.Some times it has me bamboozled whit they are on aboot. Here is the addy tae the Dundee 3js.
http://www.dundee.ukf.net/
These are aw Scots fowk an they seem tae like mah foolishness. LJC


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