BS: Should foxhunting be banned?

Subject: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:12 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:17 AM

Yes.........It should be banned for all Gay, Islamic, pilots........Also possibly from Scotsmen who have been living in the states too long.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:21 AM

Can you eat foxes?

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:24 AM

Spaw, may I reminf you that the United States is a litigious society in which legal actions may be instigated for the merest trifle, and as I have experienced a slight pain in my right side as a result of laughing uproariously at your posting here, you may expect to hear from my attorneys, of the corporation "Sue, Grabbit and Runne" at their earliest convenience.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:26 AM

i saw a fox a couple of days ago, it was a bit skinny and rough looking, so I would not fancy eating it anyway, it did not look very tasty.Do you have foxes in America?

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:29 AM

However, to address your question, John, if we didn't have foxhunting, we wouldn't have any National Hunt Racing, no Cheltenham Gold Cup, no Hennessy Gold Cup.

Now, You nake the call

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:34 AM

I reckon Ad Hoc will win the Gold Cup.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:44 AM

Nah....at least a dozen silly people in red jackets must fall of their horses and break their necks per year. It's an OK trade-off.

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Terry K
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:27 AM

Rick, I'm sure the members of the Welsh Miners hunt (among other similar hunts) would welcome you to visit them to discuss "silly people in red jackets". I know you're joking but the sad fact is that the mass of urban politicians here see it that way in all seriousness, and will make their decisions from that standpoint.

So to very boringly answer the question in the thread title, no John, it shouldn't.

Cheers, Terry (not a hunter)

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:33 AM

Yeah, I was joking Terry, but truth of the matter is it makes me cringe. Just a big suck about animals I guess. It's one of those emotional responses that I often have, that sometimes change when I'm presented with a good strong (non idealogical) argument.

Tell me about the welsh Miners' hunt.

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 02:23 AM

Yeah, me too Terry.......Ignorant American here and I have no idea what makes them important....unless of course they're Gay, Islamic, pilots......Sorry, tell me, I do want to hear.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Tone d' F
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 02:24 AM

The argument has been about for a while and johns question was answered some time ago by Oscar Wilde "the unspeakable chasing the uneatable"

Alternatives have been sought drag hunting

Ban Drag Hunting chasing transvestites with horse and hounds cannot be right

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 02:49 AM

As far as I know, Fox hunting isn't illegal in the U.S. - There used to be fox hunts (at least the musical Mame shows one in the South). Maybe there still is. A possible solution is that fox hunters in the U.K. could go to Georgia on their vacation for fox hunting. There'd probably be less flak - heck, we're talking Georgia - the Klan still exists in Georgia and it'd be good for tourism and I'll bet American foxes are more of a challenge that those little ones in the U.K.

Also, the rodeo is still popular in the U.S. despite that animals are harmed each and every time a rodeo happens - want to know why bulls jump up and down in a mad attempt to "throw the rider"? Check out their back end - noting a rope strung around their hind and under their legs - guess what the underside of the rope is attached to.

Of course, I could be wrong...

pax yall

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: GUEST,Stavanger Bill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 02:52 AM

Just run down through the postings above:

John from Hull : "Should foxhunting be banned?"

Spaw : "Yes.........It should be banned for all Gay, Islamic, pilots........Also possibly from Scotsmen who have been living in the states too long."

John from Hull : "Can you eat foxes?"

Now taking American slang terms into account I thought that Spaw was on the right track and really was expecting an immediate response from Spaw to JoH's second question. Even more so when next from JoH we get:

"i saw a fox a couple of days ago, it was a bit skinny and rough looking, so I would not fancy eating it anyway, it did not look very tasty.Do you have foxes in America?"

Golden opportunity missed?

John if you did see see a fox a couple of days ago that was a bit skinny and rough looking - You must either have something to do with the fashion industry, or you are obviously going to the wrong bars or clubs.

I can't speak for the status in America but over here in sunny Norway there's a rake of foxes, hunting them seems to be the most single minded obsession of the bulk of the male population and they are regularly eaten with great enthusiasm. No fatalities as yet reported.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:03 AM

Good point Bill....Keep running with it. Give us a rundown on the Sable Coated Norwegian Fox if you would. Are they sly and cunning? Assuming you've sampled tem, are they something we'd like to eat too?

John's encounter was perhaps with the Skank Fox, a common breed easily found but rarely eaten because of problems of disease control.

Give us a rundown on your favorite breed huh?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: GUEST,Stavanger Bill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:51 AM

Can barely type for laughing at the moment - "Skank Fox" description - absolute Hoot. Get back to you.

Cheers, Bill

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:52 AM

Am I missing out on the spirit of this thread if I actually answer the question? OK, I won't answer the question, I'll answer the other questions.

I've heard one well-expressed, well-reasoned argument as to why killing foxes by hunting with dogs is more humane than shooting them, and one badly expressed but equally well-reasoned. If you want to shoot a fox you need to use a shot gun to be sure of hitting it; using a rifle is going to mean a lot of wasted bullets and you probably won't see the fox again after the first bang. (Also, shotguns are readily available in the UK; rifles aren't without a lot of hassle.) The fox will almost certainly not be killed immediately, but will disappear from sight and die slowly and in much pain, possibly over several days, and maybe from starvation rather than its wound.

On the other hand, a pack of dogs is very good at catching the fox in the first place; and the fox will die there and then, in a short time: no more than a few minutes at most. It will be unpleasant and painful--no argument there, but if it has to die at all, this would seem by far the lesser of two evils.

Do foxes need to be killed at all? I've no idea. I know on occasions they have to be conserved to keep the hunt in business. And we should distinguish between the idea of a lot of people whose idea of fun is to tear about the countryside on horseback at high speed (which sounds pretty exciting, actually) and the idea that the fox's death is part of the fun.

And foxes aren't Nature's mass-murderers. Their instinctive behaviour as predators is to catch something and kill it; all the other lambs/geese/chickens will run away and be safe; the fox will take its prey home and eat it. But if the prey animals are all penned up and can't escape, the fox keeps on killing till they are all dead, because he can't stop until they are.

Any questions?

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Terry K
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:11 AM

Steve - thanks for that, I thought I might just have to get drawn into discussion!

The knee-jerk view is mainly caused by the fact that the "sport" is perceived as being exclusively for the wealthy, landed class who have most of the money. The main opponents tend to be (caution!!!! - sweeping generalisation about to happen) left-wing and socialist who tend not to have most of the money. Sometimes known as the envy motive.

Though this whole concept is ridiculously outmoded in today's economic society, the fact is that hunting almost never was an exclusive preserve of the wealthy. The Welsh miners hunt is just one example of a "working class" hunt, but most hunts would traditionally be avidly supported by local villagers, on foot if they had no horses.

Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Lanfranc
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:41 AM

No, and the legislation should not be extended to "hunting with dogs", either.

Many anti-hunting people own cats; ever met a healthy vegetarian cat or tried to stop one from hunting to supplement its diet?

If a dog-owner is walking his pet, and it chases, catches and kills a rabbit, are owner and dog to be criminalised? Not in any sensible society, but Britain is seldom sensible where animals are concerned.

If I remember rightly, Scotland has already enacted the legislation to ban all hunting with dogs. Has there been an increase in the number of ferrets kept as pets up there? Not that a ferret is much use against a fox.

Knee-jerk emotion-based legislation is almost always bad legislation. For examples, just consider the "fighting dogs" and handgun laws here in the UK, and some of the "anti-terrorist" measures enacted or proposed since 9/11 in the US.

However, I fear that foxhunting will soon be banned here, with further damage to rural communities already reeling from the after-effects of foot and mouth disease. Urban "animal lovers" may feel differently in time, when increasing numbers of foxes have left the countryside and moved into the suburbs in search of easier pickings, raided dustbins, crapped all over gardens and killed beloved moggy.

When they've done with foxhunters, their next target will be anglers. After that .....

Alan (neither foxhunter or petowner, but angler and hunter with rifle)

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 05:39 AM

Let's get this straight: I am entirely against any form of cruel treatment of animals. If angling is unnecessarily cruel and painful to a fish, then I'm against that too. (I don't know--is it? Somebody start a new thread, please!)

I've never seen a discussion on fox-hunting that actually addressed the root of the problem: some people oppose a cruel and painful method of killing the fox. That's all there is to it. It's a red herring to blame hunters for treating the killing as sport.

The class aspect is more marked today, I think.It certainly used to be the case that all you needed to join the hunt was a servicable horse (which you might be able to borrow); it was a community activity in a time when hunt saboteurs hadn't been dreamt of.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Ringer
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 05:58 AM

It is a fundamentally illiberal attitude to want to ban activities that you disapprove of. How strange that such attitudes should be so evident in the political parties that pride themselves on being liberal (and even, in Britain, include the word in their name!).

On the subject of this thread, my own views are not entirely self-consistent but are not, I hope, quite so nauseatingly hypocritical as those of the Labour MP (an angler! "Fish have different nervous systems and don't feel pain") who introduced the bill to ban hunting early in the last parliament. I have never been nearer to a hunt than having been taken to a meet as a small child, and have absolutely no desire to ride to hounds or even follow them on foot. So I am not so much a supporter of hunting as against those advocating a ban on hunting (how could a reactionary like me be otherwise?). Just a few points:

The word "sportsman" was applied to followers of the hounds long before ball-games were invented. Sportsmen, arouse! The morning is fair wasn't an appeal to footballers, you know.

Hunting has provided the subject of some of the finest songs in the English language (eg the one whose first line I quote above).

If foxes need to be controlled (and I believe they do), is it not better that people should enjoy themselves exercising this control than not?

It seems unfair to me (not in the best sporting tradition!) that hunt servants should stop foxes' earths before the hunt and that foxes which do manage to go to ground should be dug out and killed anyway. But I can see that it's consistent with hunters' claim to have controlling foxes as a primary aim.

So, to answer John's question: No.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 06:20 AM

They eat foxes in Norway ? Yeeeugh ......

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 06:23 AM

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Jon

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 07:25 AM

Well, I dunno' about the whole thing of fox, but I think Wife Hunting should probably be banned.........The following from today's 'Columbus Dispatch:'

HUNTER SHOOTS WIFE

Gary Johnson's first shot this deer season came early Monday at home when a slug from his shotgun pierced a love seat and passed through the kitchen wall and into the microwave oven.

He was one of thousands of hunters gearing up for what state wildlife officials say was a banner opening day for deer-gun season: 41,257 deer were bagged Monday, an 18 percent increase over opening day 2000.

But Johnson, 52, of Byesville in Guernsey County, never made it to his favorite hunting spot. He was inspecting his shotgun about 2:15 a.m. and thought the safety was on when it discharged.

After the blast, he heard his wife, Sherry, call his name and walked into the kitchen.

"I thought she was going to raise hell with me,'' he said yesterday from his home, about 80 miles east of Columbus.

"She was lying on the floor with blood surrounding her head.''

The .410-gauge slug grazed her scalp.

Mrs. Johnson was taken to Southeastern Ohio Medical Center in Cambridge, where she was treated and released that day.

Officials said only one hunting injury was reported in the woods.

Vicki Mountz, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Natural Resources said a hunter in Hocking County was injured when his shotgun exploded as he fired it Monday.

Last year, there were 11 injuries and one fatality during deer-gun season.

"People are taking safety seriously,'' Mountz said.

Officials said ideal weather Monday brought hunters out in droves.

"The conditions were great Monday. It was clear, the temperature was in the 50s and there were a lot of deer out there,'' said Tim Waldren of Waldren's Hunting Supplies in Newark. "People were saying it was a perfect day to go deer hunting.''

Hunters killed 96,290 deer during last season.

Waldren said hunters brought 189 deer to his store for tagging on Monday.

"That's double what we got last year on the first day,'' he said.

State officials estimate there are about 500,000 deer in Ohio, about a 10 percent increase over last year.

Hunters are limited to one deer in most counties. But wildlife officials say that depending on the 2001 harvest, the state might expand the number of two-deer counties.

"We think we're 7 percent to 10 percent above our target population levels,'' Mountz said.

In Guernsey County, however, Johnson said he plans to give up hunting after his wife's near miss.

"It's been a nightmare since it happened,'' he said. "She's the mother of my kids. The woman I've been with for 31 years."

I'm glad to see they're taking safety seriously this year...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: RichM
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 09:09 AM

I don't see any problem with hunting foxes, or other animals, or fishing.

...in fact, my favorite sport is flycasting for dogs; I use a live bird on a hook to attract them.

...Of course, I always release the dogs, though sometimes I have to clip the hook and leave the barb in them because it's stuck....

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Mike Byers
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 09:23 AM

When I lived in northern Virginia several years ago, the Orange hunt was active and there was always criticism of the notion of fox hunting along with plenty of people who defended it as a fine sport. It seemed to me that with all the lawyers, telephone solicitors and politicians around, hunting these would have been more useful to society than chasing foxes which, I admit, never did seem like it would be much of a challenge to me. Chasing Siberian tigers from horseback--now that would be interesting. I used to hunt when I was a kid, but after several years in the military, mostly hunting people, shooting ducks wasn't much fun and I gave it up. But I'd go back to it for politicians, lawyers, etc. Do we have foxes in the US? You bet! Here in western Indiana I've seen both grey and red foxes. People used to shoot them for the $3 bounty (that was a long time ago) but since they're not a threat to livestock (most people don't raise chickens, ducks or geese anymore and only have the concrete, fox-proof ones in their yards)as far as I know nobody hunts them. I've seen some fairly big red foxes, too: big enough to catch a groundhog, which as anybody who knows groundhougs will tell you is not easy. Groundhogs may be vegetarians, but they can give you a serious bite. And if they weren't almost as tasty as suckling lawyer when roasted, I wouldn't fool with them at all. I've never tried roasted fox...

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: kendall
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 09:24 AM

Foxes have to be controlled? Why? we have foxes here, and, they are not a problem. Natural selection keeps them in balance, so, the idea that fox hunting is necessary strikes me as silly. I am dead set against deliberate cruelty to any living thing, and, to watch a pack of dogs rip a fox apart while it is still alive is cruel.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Gervase
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 10:12 AM

Absolutely not.
Foxes may not be a problem in Maine, where the big outdoors is maybe big enough to sustain a natural population, but in the cramped UK there's hardly room to swing a cat, let along a fox. As a result natural territories are squeezed and the foxes take advantage of the food supplied by humans - be it sheep, bird poults, chickens, rabbits, cats, the contents of your bin...you name it.
Hunting with hounds isn't the best way to control foxes - lamping at night with a rifle is probably the most efficient. But it does help control the population (artificially, sometimes, because in some hunt areas, foxes have to be persauded to breed!)
One problem with a lot of the fox-hunting fraternity is that they will keep baning on about the 'controlling foxes' argument when they should be candid and admit why they do it - because it is such tremendous, adrenalin-charged fun. It's risky a heck (if you want it to be) and it is a pastime that, in an over-regulated society where the Health and Safety Executive reigns supreme, gives some people the atavistic thrill of risking a broken neck.
Ban foxhunting and what's next? I don't hunt, but I shoot and fish, and I would hate to see those sports banned - and the antis would turn their attention pretty sharpish to shooting and fishing if they won a ban on hunting.
It's a delicately-poised argument, I'll admit. But fundamental to my personal belief s on the subject is the concept that animals don't have rights - humans have responsibilities. Sorry, an inchoate posting there, but one quickly dashed off post-lunch.
I may be back...

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 10:22 AM

Hey RichM...You seem to be the kinda' guy who'd know, so let me ask you this........See, I have a Fishing License but not a Hunting License or Deer Tag, but I was wondering if the Fishing License would be okay and keep me out of trouble with the Game Wardens? I mean like I wouldn't use a gun or bow or anything, but let's say I take my Fly Rod out in the woods and then maybe I bait it with an ear of corn and cast it out into a school of deer.......Well, you can see what I mean. Do you think I need to invest in a hunting license?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: annamill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 10:34 AM

Hi. This is another subject I'm not too sure about. Fox hunting sounds like real fun to me, except fot the killing the fox part. It seems to me we could just hunt the fox, but not hurt it. Didn't polo start out with Arabians hitting a pigs head about, or, is that where football started?? ;-)

Could we train the dogs to corner it until we get there? Then we could give the fox a treat and release it. We train dogs to soft mouth ducks, why not foxes??

My mind at work again.

Love, Anna

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 10:41 AM

LOL do you mean chase the fox for a few miles then just shout at it or something? I reckon you should not kill animals unless somebody is going to eat them, or they are causing real and severe problems ie if a big lion or something was going to eat somebody I would be willing to kill it, but not just for fun

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: LR Mole
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 10:44 AM

I think foxhunters should chase footballs, and golfers hit trout. Ban all boundaries between sports, say I.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: RichM
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 11:00 AM

Spaw, any self-respecting bureaucracy recognizes that this is a unique situation---and bureaucracies can't handle that kind of situation.

So, of course you would need a hunting AND a fishing license, as well a a special license to transport non-standard hunting weapons...

Rich

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 11:07 AM

Aw nuts! I should have figured they'd get me comin' and goin'..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 11:50 AM

I got it!

A Fox Hunter Hunt!

It's kind of the best of both worlds. The fox hunters can enjoy their fox hunt and with the added element of them being hunted as well, they really will enjoy the added challenge. I keeps the quantity of fox hunters down so they don't over populate which will allow more room for the foxes and their natural prey (mice and other wild rodents, mostly)

I really enjoy human logic - because there are so many humans, we need to control the population of primary predators in the wild so they don't kill all the animals that are conveinent as food sources. A simple solution would be to start killing off humans - I'd suggest the really rich ones first - mostly because they take up the most land per person - And the challenge would be delightful! My guess is that Land Rovers can stop a typical shotgun blast so you'd have to take them down while their engaged in the woods in group activities such as... Fox Hunting!

It's all so circular!

pax yall

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:04 PM

I'll have to go back to the Wildlife Surplus Store and check on what's available for Foxes. I went to the Deer Department in the Wildlife Surplus Store and saw all that neat stuff the deer get when they go hunting.

I personally liked the camoflage outfits.......for almost any situation too! A deer could dress himself in a business suit, a tuxedo, jeans and polo, and even pajamas! The pajamas are very effective as the deer know the best time to knock off a human is when they're in rut and they can scout your bedroom for the best place to put up a wall stand to wait you out. Dressed in PJ's they're barely noticeable!

They had a wide array of human calls there too with all the classics like, "Can you rub some oil on my breasts?" and "Look Honey, I'm starting without you!" No stud could resist such temptations and when you add the wide selection of scents available to the human hunter......Well, I tell you I had no idea the deer were so well equipped!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: annamill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:11 PM

Quote! "I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajams I'll never know!".

Tra-la!

L.A.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:22 PM

First filmed version of your quote anna was in "Animal Crackers" when it was spoken by Groucho in the role of Captain Spalding.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: annamill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:25 PM

That's why I wrote "Quote", 'spaw. I ASS U ME d everyone would recognize the quote. ;-)

Love, Anna

The "ASS U ME" is from an Odd Couple episode. (Just in case)

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: marty D
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:29 PM

The only animals that should be shot for sport are those infernal dogs that sit around playing poker. One of the odder sights I witnessed in the British Isles was that so many pubs and manor houses seem to be adorned with grotesque paintings of dogs ripping foxes apart while the hunters (in their red coats, Rick) stand around puffing from their labours. God knows what they're fantasizing about. Ugh.

marty

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:30 PM

Well geez anna, I think I'll just leave in a Huff!!! Should I take the brown two-door or the station wagon?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:32 PM

Take or leave the actual "hunting" part, depending on time, social climate, whatever. Just keep on writing and singing great hunting songs. JohnB

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:38 PM

Yes, it should be banned in England. It's a cruel pastime for people who enjoy being cruel to foxes. Maybe I am oversimplistic, but that's the way I feel about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: annamill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:39 PM

I hope ya know I'm just playin' with ya,'spaw (so to speak).

L, A.

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:43 PM

And I hoped you got the "Huff" joke so you'd know I knew!

Spaw (:<))

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: annamill
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 12:52 PM

I did. I thought it was cute, but that is par when reading any of your posts.

L.A. (:>))

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:01 PM

Aw shucks.......geewhiz anna.......I don't know what to say...........But have you read the latest in the the Chronicles of Cletus.....It's called the Tale of the Magnetic Ass-Ring or more simply The Cure? (Spaw said in a completely shameless self promotional gambit)

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: GUEST,jack
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:11 PM

I cannot decide if this is a serious posting or just another inside joke amongst mudcatters-- but if it is a serious question, In my opinion, All sport hunting, the killing of animals for the pleasure of killing should be banned-- but it will never happen--jack

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:14 PM

sure... ban it... and golf... and wrestling... and Harry Potter... and rodeo... but while yer at it make damn sure you ban wife beating, queer bashing, child molestation and dope pushing...

Jesus fuck!?!?! Don't we have more important things to worry about than what a few idiots in red coats and stupid hats who think way too highly of themselves in the first place do when they're bored with counting their money and marrying their cousins????

Subject: RE: BS: Should foxhunting be banned?
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 01:18 PM

Yes - Ban fox hunts - and while we're at it ban snipe hunts too. The massive cruality that we visit upon snipes every year is shameful. Let's confess - who among us has gone on a snipe hunt??