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Origins: Do ye ken John Peel?

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DO YE KEN JOHN PEEL?
D'YE KEN JOHN PEEL [parody]


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John Peel ( -W. Metcalfe's version, 1868. This is referred to in more detail above; bear in mind that the tune usually used nowadays is just the third part (refrain) of the original. )
Red House (ancestral to 'Do YOu Ken John Peel' from Playford's Dancing Master (1706). The tune first appeared in the edition of 1695 in a slightly different form. )
Tycoch Caerdydd (The Red House of Cardiff) ( -from Alawon Fy Ngwlad, c.1896. Described as a pib-ddawns (pipe-dance). ancestral to John Peel)
Where Will Our Goodman Laye (from Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion for the Flute, vol.II, c.1750. ancestral to 'John Peel')


Georgiansilver 18 Jan 21 - 03:19 PM
GUEST,Observer 19 Jan 21 - 03:05 AM
Sandra in Sydney 14 Dec 24 - 06:12 PM
rich-joy 15 Dec 24 - 05:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Origins: Do ye ken John Peel?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 03:19 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27ye_ken_John_Peel_(song)


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Subject: RE: Origins: Do ye ken John Peel?
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 03:05 AM

To answer a question raised earlier in the thread:

MarcB
Date: 26 Mar 98 - 02:26 PM

There is a display on John Peel in the Museum of the Border Regiment in Carlisle Castle in Carlisle, Cumbria, England. He hailed from that quarter though I can't remember what I read about his connection to the Borderers. I have made an inquiry regarding that connection and will pass it on to you all when I find out.


John Peel, the man, had no connection to the Border Regiment, the tune however to the song John Peel is the Regimental Quick March of the Border Regiment.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Do ye ken John Peel?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 14 Dec 24 - 06:12 PM

the grave of the author of "D'ye Ken John Peel" was recently exhumed by archaeologists in Tasmania, Australia -

Archaeologists complete largest mass exhumation in Australian history from old cemetery under The Hutchins School

... John Woodcock Graves was the author of a famous English hunting song "D'ye Ken John Peel", before he came out to Tasmania in 1833.

Described as a Tasmanian celebrity, he set up business in Hobart as a coach builder and painter but according to an ABC recording from 1951, his business "didn't do much good".

"He was erratic and unpractical and eventually his wife left him."

He was placed in an asylum, "from which he escaped by climbing over a wall".

He died in 1886 and was buried at Queenborough Cemetery, although his headstone became neglected and there was talk about moving his remains elsewhere ...


Bob Bolton referred to him in 2 posts on page 1 - 05 April 1998, 10.430m (When I first roamed from my home in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, down south to the cool climes of Hobart: Tasmania, Australia, I noticed that the iron railing fence around St David's Park was formed in five horizontal lines, like music staves. Into the stave was worked a design of musical notes forming the opening bars of "D'ye Ken John Peel".
I was told that this was because the park had been the graveyard of St David's, the Anglican cathedral church of Hobart and was the burial place of the author of the song "D'ye Ken John Peel"(presumably, John Woodcock Graves).

& 06 April, 1998 8.33pm (when I first saw the fence with the "D'ye Ken John Peel" music it was around 1966)


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Subject: RE: Origins: Do ye ken John Peel?
From: rich-joy
Date: 15 Dec 24 - 05:51 PM

Ha! Excellent!!   You beat me to it, Sandra!

Here's another fascinating article on the subject :
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-07/old-human-remains-found-the-hutchins-school-sandy-bay/103552150

R-J


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