BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 02:46 PM

I have yet to see it confirmed that he was in the lifeboat.

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 02:46 PM

Bobert - I have always respected your RIGHT to have an opinion, but I do NOT have to respect that opinion.   

I am attacking the statements you have made and countering them. If you cannot accept that, I really do not give a rats ass. It becomes evident that your"opinion" cannot hold up to scrutiny. Don't try to hide this as a being a Bush "with us or against us", surely if you read the posts that I have made your realize that is not the case.

Everyone has an opinion, it does not make them right. Bush had an opinon. Saddam had an opinion. You have one, it just is not popular nor is it healthy.

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:24 PM

Oh, so now you have demoted yer fact to opinion... That's a good start, Ron... A good start indeed...

And I can accept that my opinion may not be the "popular" opinion but I do not accept that my opinion is unhealthy of yours is more healthy... Frankly, I don't even know what health has to do with it one way or another since my opinion isn't really hurting anyone or making them sick... And, conversely, yer's ain't curing anyone of theis illnesses???

But attacking my statements??? Great, just so long as we stay outta that area where one side or the other "proclaims" their opinions to be chizzeled-in-stone facts... That's were the discussion is no longer a discussion... Know what I mean???

That's really what this thread is about... People tend to look at things differently...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:30 PM

No, my facts are what they always were.

The man is a hero.

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:56 PM

BOBERTZ MIRACULOUSLY LANDS PIPER CUB FAR UP HIS ASS---OLESKO PROCLAIMS HIM HERO!!! FIRTH AND OTHERS APPLAUD WHILE BOBERTZ INSPECTS SIGMOID COLON!!!

Bobertz takes no credit; say he does it all the time.

FILM AT 11






Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:01 PM

Nah, I'm no hero... I was trained to land Piper Cubs up my own ass.... That's why they call them planes "tail draggers"...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Plane Ditches In Hudson River (15 Jan 2009)
From: InOBU
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 05:31 PM

I hate to disrupt all the opinion with fact... Well... here is a transcript from MSNBC. cite included...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28683246/

As the cabin took on water, Sullenberger climbed out of the jet only after the four other crew members and 150 passengers made their orderly exit. When he reached a raft, someone on a ferry tossed him a knife, and he cut away the tether to the jet.

One by one, the passengers were plucked to safety from the rafts, Hood and Sullenberger the last ones left. The passenger insisted the pilot get off first, but Sullenberger refused. He had been the last off the plane, and he would be the last off the raft.

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Now, to really cut through the opinion, you have to go to the origional stories, and see what witnesses said. In the Villager interview with the Sosa family, you will see that not all the passingers had access to rafts. The coach passingers had to climb out onto the wings - where, by luck, the plane stayed afloat until they were rescued. There is still a question about why the plane floated as long as it did... it fully sank next to the sea wall at Battery Park, where I photographed it.
As you see above, he was the last one out of the rafts. However, armed with the Sosa interview, you realize that the statement above fails to take into account the people still in danger on the wings while he is in the raft. Mr. Sosa fell off the wing into the water at one point, as did several others, who were pulled back onto the wing by fellow passingers. There was an element of luck in the fact that no one died.
All the best
lor