Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 27 Oct 14 - 08:44 PM

Social singing, which is one the most wonderful ways of sharing that humankind ever came up with, is a custom that's almost disappeared. Most people don't know how to do it anymore. A lot of people still have that urge to raise their voices together, though. That's why they'll pick up the blue book, or any book they can find, and fumble through it and try to patch something together. And yes, it can be kind of abysmal.

The thing is, if singers just throw up their hands and walk away, things will just be sad and pathetic. Music responds better to leadership than about anything else, and I don't see much reason why people who know how it's done shouldn't just stand up and do it.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Genie
Date: 27 Oct 14 - 09:31 PM

Joe Offer: "Peter and Annie will tell you exactly what Genie said, "I do not think it (Rise Up Singing) was ever meant to be that kind of 'songbook.'" They've held workshops all over the U.S. over the last twenty-five years, trying to encourage people to learn the songs, and to sing with their noses out of the book.    I've been thinking, though. The people who sing that way are in the process of learning the songs, and learning to sing together. ... Should we deny them the chance to learn these songs and to learn to sing together, just because they're not "good enough" according to our standards? Give these people a break. Maybe they're not very good singers, but at least they're trying. ... "

I agree, in part. RUS can sometimes help people (not just novice singers) learn new songs.
But over-reliance can actually impede committing a song to memory, and it often does. All too often I see people's head buried in "the book" while singing "Drunken Sailor" or "Michael, Row The Boat Ashore" or some other song that's so familiar or so simple (or both) that people who don't use the book in a sing-along would learn (or remember) it pretty soon if they weren't using the book as a crutch.

Stim said, "Music responds better to leadership than about anything else, and I don't see much reason why people who know how it's done shouldn't just stand up and do it."

I think this is a place where some group leadership could be very helpful, encouraging people to sing along by listening, watching song leader, etc., as much as possible instead of 'burying' their heads in the book.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Dec 14 - 05:15 PM

I was part of the original song selection committee for the the Rise Again Songbook back in 1997 or so. The list was submitted to Sing Out! for compilation and publication, but nothing happened. I joined the editing team of the resurrected project late in the summer of 2014. By that time, the songs had already been chosen. There isn't much room for change in the Songlist, because there is already a waiting list of substitutes for songs that we end up not using. But as I work on the book, I keep coming across songs that ought to be there. Feel free to suggest songs below, just in case there happens to be room.

My friend Margaret Miles wrote a song called Circle of Song that is sung often in the San Francisco area. It's a wonderful description of the magic that happens when people come together to sing.

Sandy mackay suggested The Joy in Living by Steven Sellors. Faith Petric sang this song often.

Another favorite of mine: Springfield Mountain

Other suggestions?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 16 Dec 14 - 06:14 PM

I suggest Unison in Harmony written by Jim Boyes.

It was recorded on the first CD by Coope Boyes & Simpson, Funny Old World, No Masters NMCD3, issued in 1993.

I defy you not to join in!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 04:46 AM

well, if we are looking for wonderfully singable songs about singing try The People have Songs by Miguel Heatwole as posted by freda underhill a few years back


THE PEOPLE HAVE SONGS
(Miguel Heatwole)

Here voices are tuned to each other in gladness
To all here in common affection belongs
Here joy and laughter meet keening and sadness
Here tyranny's cursed for the people have songs

Chorus:
Let us set the room ringing with the sound of our singing
When we come to the end let us hold the chord long
Hear the harmonies rise and all close our eyes
'Til the last cadence dies the people have songs

Here is war parting sweethearts
Here are strong sweating sailors
And poets for beauty who ardently long
Here are people at work singing loud at their labours
Here are marriage and drinking for the people have songs

Respect for each other gives each one a hearing
And whether the voice be uncertain or strong
We listen with love if the heart is endearing
Supported in harmony the people have songs

Disdaining oppression like others before us
Our gentleness angered by history's wrongs
Our tradition endures, and our voices in chorus
Are lifted in hope for the people have songs!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: oldhippie
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 09:41 AM

Suggestions, Joe. Delete "Cats In The Cradle" and replace with another Harry Chapin song "A Better Place To Be" Adds: "Passing Through" Catie Curtis; "Gentle Arms of Eden" Dave Carter/Tracy Grammar; "Tools For The Soul" Danny Flowers; "The Trumpet Vine" Kate Wolf

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Stewart
Date: 19 Dec 14 - 03:34 PM

There seems to be large differences in lists of songs sung by song circles related to regions and when the songs were sung. I have a copy of the first song book/collection put together by Sally Ashford for the Seattle Song Circle when in began in 1977. These songs are quite different from those sung at the Seattle Song Circle today (which are largely out of Rise Up Singing). And song lists from other song circles that I have seen on the internet are very different again. That seems quite understandable as we all come from different backgrounds and were introduced to folk music at different times.

I worry about the "homogenizing" effect of widely-used song books like Rise Up Singing and Rise Again. The song list for Rise Again contains many songs that I am not familiar with, and most I gather are fairly new songs. Nothing wrong with that, there may be some good songs there, but where are the old songs that I grew up singing, and other great old songs that I continue to discover that have met the test of time. We need to keep the old songs alive!

Here is a collection of songs that I've assembled (mostly old) for use in community group singing and for a workshop on Song Collecting, which I will do at Dusty Strings in Seattle on Feb. 21, 2015.

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: Index: 'Rise Again' Songbook
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 07:22 AM

Looks like the publication date for the Rise Again Songbook will be September 1. I started work on the book in August, 2014, and I researched some 1300 songs. 1200 of them were selected. I didn't always get my way, but editors Peter Blood and Annie Patterson did accept most of the changes I suggested. I'm glad they gave me a chance to give input on this book. My materialistic brother doesn't understand why I spent 8 hours a day for a year working on this book without pay, but I'm glad I did. To me, it's good enough that Peter and Annie named me one of two associate editors. Now that the book has gone to the printer, I'm working on a database of background information for every song in the book.
There are some aspects of this book that I really don't like. But all in all, I think it's a very good collection of songs that are presented very well. I'm especially proud of our "Ballads and Old Songs" and "Blues" chapters. "Pub Songs" and "Sea and Sailors" are a couple other chapters that I really like. I think we did justice to these songs. YOu can buy a copy of this book from http://amazon.mudcat.org/ for $17.58.
This is the list of songs for the book that's on the Website of our publisher, Hal Leonard. I think it's accurate.

• A La Nanita Nana (Hear Lullabies And Sleep Now)
• The A Team
• Abdul Abulbul Amir
• Ach Du Lieber Augustin (O My Dearest Augustine)
• Across The Borderline (from the Universal Picture THE BORDER)
• Across The Great Divide
• Across The Universe
• Addams Family Theme (Theme from the TV Show and Movie)
• Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy
• Ain't Done Nothin' If You Ain't Been Called A Red
• Ain't Misbehavin' (from AIN'T MISBEHAVIN')
• Ain't No Rest For The Wicked
• Ain't No Sunshine
• Ain't Nobody's Business
• Ain't She Sweet
• Ain't That Good News
• Al Kol Eileh
• Alabama Bound
• Alison
• All Around My Hat
• All For Me Grog
• All For Me Job
• All I Have To Do Is Dream
• All I Really Want To Do
• All I Want Is You
• All In This Together
• All My Loving (from A HARD DAY'S NIGHT)
• Alleluia, Amen!
• Almost Every Circumstance
• Almost Like Being In Love (from BRIGADOON)
• Aloha Oe
• Along The Colorado Trail
• Alright For Now
• Alvin
• Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life (from MONTY PYTHON'S LIFE OF BRIAN)
• Always On My Mind
• Amazed
• Amen
• American Idiot
• American Pie
• And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda
• Angel Of The Morning
• Annie
• Another Black Man Gone
• Another Train
• Anyone Else But You (from the Motion Picture Soundtrack JUNO)
• Apples And Bananas
• Aquarius (from the Broadway Musical Production HAIR)
• Are You From Dixie?
• Are You Tired Of Me, My Darling?
• As Long As He Needs Me (from the Columbia Pictures - Romulus Motion Picture Production of Lionel Bart's)
• As Tears Go By
• As Time Goes By (from CASABLANCA)
• At Seventeen
• Away In A Manger (Tune Name: MUELLER)
• Baby Love
• Baby Mine (from Walt Disney's DUMBO)
• Baby, Now That I've Found You
• Baby, What You Want Me To Do
• Back In The Saddle Again
• Bad, Bad Leroy Brown
• Bad Moon Rising
• Ballad Of The Carpenter
• Banana Pancakes
• Barbara Ann
• The Bare Necessities (from Walt Disney's THE JUNGLE BOOK)
• The Barley Mow
• Beans, Bacon And Gravy
• Beautiful Ohio
• Beauty And The Beast (from Walt Disney's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST)
• Been All Around This World
• Beeswing
• Before You Accuse Me (Take A Look At Yourself)
• Bei Mir Bist Du Schon (Means That You're Grand)
• The Bells Of Rhymney
• Bésame Mucho
• The Best Day Ever (from SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS)
• Between The Wars
• Bewitched (from PAL JOEY)
• Beyond The Sea (featured in the Walt Disney/Pixar film FINDING NEMO)
• Big Italian Rose
• Big Mamou
• Bird By Bird
• Bird On The Wire (Bird On A Wire)
• Birdhouse In Your Soul
• Birthday Round
• Black Horse And The Cherry Tree
• Blackberry Pie
• The Blackest Crow
• The Blacksmith
• Blame It On Your Heart
• Bless The Broken Road
• Bling-Blang
• Blood Red Roses
• Blow Away The Morning Dew
• Blue Boat Home
• Blue Moon Of Kentucky
• Blue Skies (from BETSY)
• The Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
• Bluegrass Boy
• Bonnie Light Horseman
• Book Of Love
• Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
• Bountiful River
• Box Of Rain
• Bracero
• Branching Out
• Breaths
• Bring 'Em Home
• Bring Back The Eight Hour Day
• Bring Him Back Home
• Bring Him Home (from LES MISERABLES)
• Bring It On Home To Me
• Bring Me A Boat
• Bring Me Lil'l Water, Sylvie
• Brown Eyed Girl
• Brush Up Your Shakespeare (from KISS ME, KATE)
• Buckets Of Rain
• Build Me Up, Buttercup (featured in the Motion Picture THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY)
• Bully In The Alley
• Bury Me Beneath The Willow
• Button Up Your Overcoat (from FOLLOW THRU)
• By The Beautiful Sea
• By Way Of Sorrow
• Bye Bye Blackbird (from PETE KELLY'S BLUES)
• Bye Bye Love
• Byker Hill
• Cake Walk Into Town
• Caledonia
• California Stars
• Call It Democracy
• Call Me The Whale
• Call The Captain
• Calling My Children Home
• The Calton Weaver
• Calypso Freedom
• The Campfire Song Song (from SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS)
• Can I Stand Here For You
• Can't Buy Me Love (from A HARD DAY'S NIGHT)
• Can't Help Falling In Love (from the Paramount Picture BLUE HAWAII)
• Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
• Can't You Dance The Polka?
• Cancion a Victor
• Cancion Mixteca
• Canned Goods
• Carey
• Carry On
• A Case Of You
• Casimir Pulaski Day
• Cassiopeia
• Cat's In The Cradle
• Catch A Falling Star
• Cecilia
• Chapel Of Love
• Chariots
• Chattanooga Choo Choo
• Cheek To Cheek (from the RKO Radio Motion Picture TOP HAT)
• Child Of Mine
• Chittlin' Cookin' Time In Cheetham County
• The Christians And The Pagans
• Christmas In The Trenches
• Christmas In Washington
• The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting On An Open Fire)
• Cinco Siglos Igual
• Circle Of Song
• Clear Away In The Morning
• Close The Door Lightly (When You Go)
• Closer To Fine
• Cluck Old Hen
• Coal Town Road
• Cold, Cold Heart
• The Colorado Trail
• Coloring Outside The Lines
• The Colors Of Earth
• Come Ye Thankful People Come
• Come, Ye Thankful People, Come (Tune Name: ST. GEORGE'S WINDSOR)
• Common Ground
• Common Ground
• Consider Yourself (from the Columbia Pictures - Romulus Motion Picture Production of Lionel Bart's)
• Corrina
• Corrina, Corrina
• Courage
• The Court Of King Caractacus
• Crazy
• The Creek's Gonna Rise
• Crossing The Bar
• Crossing The Border
• Crossing The Water
• Cross Road Blues (Crossroads)
• Crow On The Cradle
• Cu-Cu-Rru-Cu-Cu Paloma
• The Cuckoo
• Cup Of Sorrow
• Cupid
• Dance For The Nations (Round And Round We Turn)
• Dance To Tom Paine's Bones
• Dancing Queen (from MAMMA MIA!)
• Darcy Farrow
• The Dark End Of The Street
• Dark Eyed Molly
• Dark-Eyed Molly
• Dark Eyes
• Darkest Hour
• Day After Tomorrow
• Daydream
• Daydream Believer (featured in the Television Series THE MONKEES)
• Dear Abby
• Death Came A Knockin' (Travelin' Shoes)
• Deep Elem Blues
• Deep In The Darkest Night
• Defying Gravity (from the Broadway Musical WICKED)
• Dem Deer
• Diamonds and Rust
• Did You Hear John Hurt?
• Diddie Wa Diddie
• Didn't Leave Nobody But The Baby
• Diggy Liggy Lo
• Dignity
• Dimming Of The Day
• Dinah (from THE BIG BROADCAST)
• Dire Wolf
• Dives And Lazarus
• Do Wah Diddy Diddy
• Do You Believe In Magic
• Do You Hear The People Sing? (from LES MISERABLES)
• Do You Know The Way To San Jose
• Doctor, My Eyes
• Don't Be Cruel (To A Heart That's True)
• Don't Ever Let Nobody Drag Your Spirit Down
• Don't Fence Me In
• Don't Get Around Much Anymore (featured in SOPHISTICATED LADIES)
• Don't Give Your Heart To A Rambler
• Don't Know Why
• Don't Let Me Come Home A Stranger
• Don't Sit Under The Apple Tree (With Anyone Else But Me)
• Don't Stop Believin' (featured in the Twentieth Century Fox Television Series GLEE)
• Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
• Don't This Road Look Rough And Rocky
• Don't Try So Hard
• Don't Worry, Be Happy (featured in the Motion Picture COCKTAIL)
• Done Made My Vow To The Lord
• Donut Song
• Down At The Twist And Shout
• Down By The River
• Down On Grandpa's Farm
• Down On The Corner
• Down To The River To Pray
• Down Under
• Dream Angus
• Dreamland
• Dreams Of Harmony
• Drifting Too Far From The Shore
• Drive My Car
• Dry Bones
• Du, Du, Liebst Mir Im Herzen
• Duerme Negrito
• Duke Of Earl
• Early
• Early In The Morning
• Earth Angel
• Eensie Weensie Spider
• El Condor Pasa (If I Could)
• Ella's Song
• Emmylou
• Erev Shel Shoshanim
• Esa Einai (Psalm 121)
• ESPN
• Eve Of Destruction
• Every Breath You Take
• Fall Down As The Rain
• Falling
• Falling Slowly (from the Motion Picture ONCE)
• Family Tree
• Fast Car
• Father And Son
• Fathom The Bowl
• Fear An Bhata
• Feel So Near
• Ferry Me Over
• Fields Of Gold
• The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)
• Fight No More Forever
• Final Trawl
• The First Cut Is The Deepest
• Fishin' Blues
• Five Foot Two, Eyes Of Blue (Has Anybody Seen My Girl?)
• Fly Around, My Pretty Little Miss
• Fly Through My Window
• The Foggy Dew
• Folk Song Army
• Follow That Dream (from FOLLOW THAT DREAM)
• Follow That Road
• Folsom Prison Blues
• (That's What You Get) For Lovin' Me
• For Real
• For What It's Worth
• Forever Young
• Found A Peanut
• Four Green Fields
• Four Hands
• Four Nights Drunk
• 1492
• Fox On The Run
• Freedom Come All Ye
• Friend Of The Devil
• Frobisher Bay
• From A Distance
• F***in' Perfect
• Full Moon Rising
• Fun, Fun, Fun
• Galileo
• The Gambler
• Garnet's Home-Made Beer
• The Gathering Of Spirits
• Gentle Annie
• Gentle Arms Of Eden
• Gentle On My Mind
• Georgia On My Mind
• Get Back (Black, Brown And White)
• Get Up And Bar The Door
• Get Up Jack John Sit Down
• Get Up Stand Up
• The Gift Of Love
• Girl From The North Country
• Give Light
• Give Thanks To Allah
• Glad To Have A Friend Like You
• The Glory Of Love (featured in GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER)
• Go To Sleep, Lena Darling (Emmet's Lullaby)
• Go To Sleepy, Little Baby
• God Bless Us Everyone
• God Danced (The Day You Were Born)
• God's Counting On Me
• Going Up Home (To Live In Green Pastures)
• Gold Watch And Chain
• Gone To The Dogs
• Gonna Take Us All
• Good Luck John
• Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
• Goodbye, Eliza Jane
• Goodnight, My Someone (from Meredith Willson's THE MUSIC MAN)
• Goodnight, Sweetheart, Goodnight (Goodnight, It's Time To Go)
• The Gospel Train
• Gotta Serve Somebody
• Grandma's Feather Bed
• The Great American Bum
• Great Tom Is Cast
• Greensleeves
• Grey Cat On A Tennessee Farm
• A Groovy Kind Of Love
• Guess Things Happen That Way
• The Gum-Tree Canoe
• Hal-an-tow (Helston Furry)
• Hallelujah (featured in the DreamWorks Motion Picture SHREK)
• Hallelujah
• Hands
• Handsome Cabin Boy
• Handsome Molly
• Happy Adoption Day
• Happy Together
• A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
• Hashivenu (Cause Us To Return)
• Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas (from MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS)
• He Looked Beyond My Fault And Saw My Need
• He'll Understand And Say Well Done
• Heal My Heart
• Hear Jerusalem Moan
• Heart (from DAMN YANKEES)
• Hello Mudduh, Hello Fadduh! (A Letter From Camp)
• Hello Stranger
• Hello, Young Lovers (from THE KING AND I)
• Help Me Make It Through The Night
• Helplessly Hoping
• Henry Martin
• Here I Am, Lord
• Here Is My Home
• Hernando's Hideaway (from THE PAJAMA GAME)
• Hesitation Blues
• Hey, Good Lookin'
• Hey Jude
• Hey Little Ant
• Hey, Soul Sister
• Hey There Delilah
• Hi-Fi Stereo Color TV
• High Over The Hudson
• Hold On To God's Unchanging Hand (Hold To God's Unchanging Hand) (Tune Name: GOD'S UNCHANGING HAND)
• Hole In The Bucket
• Holy Now
• Holy Spirit Come
• Home
• Home
• Home In That Rock
• Home Is Where The Heart Is
• Homegrown Tomatoes
• Honey In The Rock
• Hopalong Peter
• Hope For One And All
• (There'll Be) A Hot Time In The Old Town Tonight
• Houses In The Fields
• How Beautiful Upon The Mountain
• How Great Thou Art
• How Long Blues (How Long, How Long Blues)
• How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)
• Howdi Do
• Huddie Ledbetter Was A Helluva Man
• Husband With No Courage In Him
• I Am A Patriot
• I Am A Pilgrim
• I Am A Rock
• I Am A Wanderer
• I Am Willing
• I And Love And You
• I Believe
• I Believe I'll Dust My Broom
• I Believe That Peace Will Come
• I Bid You Goodnight
• I Bought Me A Cat
• I Cain't Say No (from OKLAHOMA!)
• I Can See Clearly Now
• (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
• I Can't Give You Anything But Love (from BLACKBIRDS OF 1928)
• I Cannot Sleep
• I Cried
• I Don't Feel No Ways Tired
• I Don't Know How To Love Him (from JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR)
• I Don't Know Why (I Just Do)
• I Don't Want To Live On The Moon (from the Television Series SESAME STREET)
• I Dreamed A Dream (from LES MISERABLES)
• I Feel The Earth Move
• I Got A Home On That Rock
• I Got A Name (from the 20th Century Fox Film LAST AMERICAN HERO)
• I Got Rhythm (from AN AMERICAN IN PARIS)
• I Had An Old Coat (The Recycling Song)
• I Have A Million Nightingales
• I Hear A Call
• I Heard It Through The Grapevine (from MOTOWN THE MUSICAL)
• I Kissed A Girl
• I Live Not Where I Love
• I Only Want To Be With You
• I Remember Loving You
• I Saw Her Standing There
• I Saw The Light
• I Say A Little Prayer (featured in the TriStar Motion Picture MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING)
• I Stand For Love
• I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
• I Try
• I Walk The Line
• I Want To Die Easy
• I Want To Sing That Rock And Roll
• I Want You Back
• I Was Born About 10,000 Years Ago
• I Whistle A Happy Tune (from THE KING AND I)
• I Will
• I Will Always Love You (featured in THE BODYGUARD)
• I Will Be Your Friend
• I Will Follow You Into The Dark
• I Will Stand Fast
• I Will Survive (featured in PRISCILLA, QUEEN OF THE DESERT)
• I Will Wait
• I Won't Give Up
• I'd Do Anything (from the Columbia Pictures - Romulus film OLIVER!)
• I'll Be Home For Christmas
• I'll Never Fall In Love Again (from PROMISES, PROMISES)
• I'll Tell Me Ma
• I'm A Believer (featured in the DreamWorks Motion Picture SHREK)
• I'm A Freeborn Man
• I'm An Old Cowhand (From The Rio Grande)
• I'm Going To Live The Life I Sing About In My Song
• I'm Gonna Say It Now
• I'm Gonna Sit At The Welcome Table
• I'm Gonna Sit Right Down And Write Myself A Letter (from AIN'T MISBEHAVIN')
• I'm Henry VIII, I Am
• I'm On My Way
• I'm Thinking Tonight Of My Blue Eyes
• I'm Yours
• I've Got What It Takes (But It Breaks My Heart To Give It Away)
• If I Fell (from A HARD DAY'S NIGHT)
• If I Had A Boat
• If I Had $1,000,000
• If I Had My Way
• If I Loved You (from CAROUSEL)
• If I Needed You
• If I Were A Blackbird
• If It Weren't For The Union
• If Not Me, Then Who
• If Not Now
• If You Could Read My Mind
• If You Go Away
• If You Say Yes
• If You Want Peace
• If You Want To Sing Out, Sing Out
• If You're Looking For Freedom
• Iko Iko
• Imagine Healthcare
• In A Cabin In A Wood
• In My Bones
• In My Family's House
• In My Room
• In My Time Of Dying (Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed)
• In Spite Of Ourselves
• In The Bleak Midwinter
• In The Evening (When The Sun Goes Down)
• In The Jailhouse Now
• In The Name Of All Of Our Children
• The Indian Prayer
• Is There Anybody Here
• Is You Is, Or Is You Ain't (Ma' Baby) (from FOLLOW THE BOYS)
• Istanbul (Not Constantinople)
• It Ain't Me Babe
• It Ain't Necessarily So (from PORGY AND BESS)
• It Don't Cost Very Much
• It Had To Be You (featured in the Motion Picture WHEN HARRY MET SALLY)
• It Really Isn't Garbage Till You Throw It Away
• It's A Hard Life Wherever You Go
• It's A Long Way
• It's A Pleasure To Know You
• It's A Sin To Tell A Lie
• It's Christmas And I'm A Jew
• It's My Party
• It's No Fun When Ya Gotta Eat An Onion
• It's Nobody

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 07:27 AM

(continued)

• Jack Was Ev'ry Inch A Sailor
• Jackson
• Jailhouse Door
• Jambalaya (On The Bayou)
• The Jeannie C
• Jenny Jenkins
• Jerusalem
• Jesse James
• John Hardy
• Johnny Come Down To Hilo
• Johnny Has Gone For A Soldier
• Jolene
• Jolie Blonde
• Jolly Rovin' Tar
• The Jolly Tinker
• Joy Comes Back
• Julia
• June Is Bustin' Out All Over (from CAROUSEL)
• Just One Earth
• Keep Your Lamps Trimmed And Burning
• Kind & Generous
• Kindergarten Wall
• Kitty Alone
• Knockin' On Heaven's Door
• Kyrie I
• L'chi Lach
• La Chanson Des Vieux Amants
• La Cucaracha
• La Vie En Rose (Take Me To Your Heart Again)
• Lady Of The Season's Laughter
• Lamb And Lion
• Lambeth Children
• The Last Battle
• Last Call
• Laudate Omnes Gentes
• Laughlin Boy
• Lay Down Your Weary Tune
• Le Deserteur
• Le Temps Des Cerises
• Leader Of The Band
• The Leatherwing Bat
• Leave Her, Johnny
• Leaving Eden
• Leaving Of Liverpool
• Leaving On A Jet Plane
• Leaving The Land
• Lema'an Achai Veriai (Psalm 122)
• Let It Be Your Lullabye
• Let It Go (from Disney's Animated Feature FROZEN)
• Let Justice Roll Down
• Let Me Make Peace
• Let My Stomach Be Soft And Round
• Let The Mystery Be
• Let Union Be (In All Our Hearts)
• Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love) (from PARIS)
• Let's Get Away From It All
• Let's Go Fly A Kite (from Walt Disney's MARY POPPINS)
• Letter To Eve
• Lida Rose (from Meredith Willson's THE MUSIC MAN)
• Lily Of The West
• Lion And The Lamb
• Little Black Bull
• (I'm Called) Little Buttercup (from H.M.S. PINAFORE)
• Little Cabin Home On The Hill
• Little Jack Horner
• Little Johnny Brown
• Little Maggie
• Little Sally Walker
• Little Satchel
• Live And Die
• Locally Grown
• The Loco-Motion
• Long Is Our Winter
• Long Kesh
• Lookin' Out My Back Door
• The Lord Is Good To Me (from Walt Disney's MELODY TIME)
• The Lord Is My Light
• Love And Happiness For You
• Love At The Five And Dime
• Love Call Me Home
• Love Chooses You
• Love Is All Around
• Love Is Here To Stay (from GOLDWYN FOLLIES)
• Love Makes A Family
• Love Me, I'm A Liberal
• Love Me Tender (from LOVE ME TENDER)
• Love Minus Zero/No Limit
• Love Potion Number 9 (from SMOKEY JOE'S CAFE)
• Love The One You're With
• Lowlands Away
• Lullaby For Teddy-O
• Lydia The Tattooed Lady
• The Mahogany Tree
• Make It, Mend It
• Mango Walk
• Many Rivers To Cross
• The Master Of The Sheepfold
• Matchmaker (from the Musical FIDDLER ON THE ROOF)
• May I Suggest
• Me And Bobby McGee
• Me And My Shadow
• Mean
• Mean Things Happening In This Land
• The Meeting Is Over
• Mercy Now
• The Mermaid
• Mi Chacra
• Mi Cuerpo Hace Musica
• Mi Shebeirach
• Michael Finnegan
• A Miner's Life (Is Like A Sailor's)
• Mingulay Boat Song
• Minstrel Boy
• Miriam Ha-Neviah
• Miss Mary Mack
• Miss The Mississippi And You
• Mrs. Robinson (from THE GRADUATE)
• Mister Rabbit
• Mister Sandman
• Mr. Tambourine Man
• Misty Morning
• Monster Mash
• Moon And Me
• Moonlight Bay
• More Than Enough
• The Mountain
• Move It On Over
• Mrs. Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter
• Music In My Mother's House
• Muss I Denn Zum Städtele Hinaus
• Mustang Sally
• My Aunt Came Back
• My Babe
• My Baby Just Cares For Me (from WHOOPEE!)
• My Dirty Stream
• My Dixie Darling (Dixie Darling)
• My Dog Sam
• My Grateful Heart
• My Guy
• My Images Come
• O My Love Is Like A Red, Red Rose
• My Roots Go Down
• My Tennessee Mountain Home
• Mystery Train (from ELVIS ON TOUR)
• N'kosi Sikelel' I Afrika (African National Anthem)
• Naked As We Came
• Names
• National Anthem: Arise! Arise!
• National Brotherhood Week
• (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman (from BEAUTIFUL)
• Ne Me Quitte Pas
• Nearer, My God, To Thee (Tune Name: BETHANY)
• Nicaragua, Nicaraguita
• Night Rider's Lament
• Nine Pound Hammer
• Nine Times A Night
• 93 Million Miles
• No Banker Left Behind
• No Irish Need Apply
• No One Is Alone - Part I (from INTO THE WOODS)
• Not Fade Away
• Not In My Name
• O God Of Earth And Altar
• O How He Lied
• Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
• Ocean Refuses No River
• Oh Dear! What Can The Matter Be?
• Oh Happy Day (from Touchstone Pictures' SISTER ACT 2: BACK IN THE HABIT)
• Oh, Lady Be Good! (from LADY, BE GOOD!)
• Oh, Mandolin
• Oh River
• Oh, Watch The Stars
• Okie From Muskogee
• Oklahoma Hills
• Ol' Man River (from SHOW BOAT)
• Old Before Your Time
• Old Cape Cod
• Old Home Place
• Old Zeb
• On A Slow Boat To China
• On Broadway (featured in the Motion Picture A CHORUS LINE)
• On Children
• On Eagle's Wings
• On The Rock Where Moses Stood
• On The Street Where You Live (from MY FAIR LADY)
• On The Sunny Side Of The Street
• Onawa's Waltz
• Once In A Very Blue Moon
• One Crane
• One Drum
• One Heart At A Time
• 100 Years
• One Kind Word
• One Love
• One Man Shall Mow My Meadow
• One Meatball
• 1,2,3,4
• One World
• The Ones Who Aren't Here
• Orphan Girl
• Our Little Town
• Outside Of A Small Circle Of Friends
• Owl Moon
• Oyfn Pripetchik (On The Fireplace)
• Ozi V'zimrat Yah
• Pace Egging Song
• Paddy West
• Pancake Hat
• Pancho And Lefty
• Panning For Gold
• Papa's On The Housetop
• Parlez-Nous A Boire
• Parting Friends
• The Parting Glass
• Parting Song
• Passing Through
• Paul Robeson Song (Powerful Voice)
• Pay Me My Money Down
• Paz y libertad
• Peace And Liberty
• Peace Train
• Peace Will Come
• (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love And Understanding
• Peaceful Easy Feeling
• Peg And Awl
• Pennies From Heaven (from PENNIES FROM HEAVEN)
• People Get Ready
• People Will Say We're In Love (from OKLAHOMA!)
• Pharaoh, Pharaoh
• Pierre
• A Place Called England
• Plant Me A Garden
• Playing Right Field
• Please Help Me, I'm Falling (In Love With You)
• Please Mr. Postman
• Pocket Full Of Stardust
• Political Science
• Polly Von
• The Power Of Loving You
• Prayer
• Pretty Brown
• The Promise
• Proud Mary
• Psalm 91
• Pure Grace
• Que Bonita Bandera
• Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) (from THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH)
• A Question Of Tempo
• Quiet Hills
• Quinn, The Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)
• Quite Early Morning
• Raggedy, Raggedy Are We
• Ragtime Cowboy Joe
• The Rainbow Connection (from THE MUPPET MOVIE)
• Rattlin' Bones
• Ready For The Storm
• Reason To Believe
• The Red Flag
• Red Rocking Chair
• Red Rubber Ball
• Red-Winged Blackbird
• Redbird's Wing
• Redemption Song
• Reuben And Rachel
• Reuben James (The Sinking Of The Reuben James)
• Rich Girl
• (Ghost) Riders In The Sky (A Cowboy Legend) (from RIDERS IN THE SKY)
• Right Here
• Ring Of Fire
• Rise As One
• Rise As One
• Rise Up Singing
• The River
• River That Flows Both Ways
• Rivers Of Texas (Texas River Song)
• Rock Around The Clock (featured in the Motion Picture AMERICAN GRAFFITI)
• Rock Me On The Water
• Rockin' In A Weary Land
• Rockingham Cindy (I Get My Whiskey In Rockingham)
• Rocky Top
• Roll De Ol' Chariot Along
• Roll On Woody
• Roll The Old Chariot Along
• Rolling Home
• Rolling In The Deep
• Rooted And Grounded In Love
• Rosa's Lovely Daughters
• Round The Bay Of Mexico
• Route 66
• Roving Gambler
• Rozhinkes Mit Mandlen (Raisins And Almonds)
• Rubber Duckie (from the Television Series SESAME STREET)
• Rusty Old American Dream
• Sacred Ground
• Sae Will We Yet
• Safe From Harm
• The Saga Begins (Parody of "American Pie")
• Sail Away Ladies
• Salaam
• Sam's Gone Away
• San Antonio Rose (from SAN ANTONIO ROSE)
• Sanctuary
• Sanctuary
• Sandwiches
• Santa Lucia
• Scalloped Potatoes
• Schedar
• The Scientist
• The Scotsman
• Searching For Lambs
• Season Of Peace
• Seasons Of Love (from RENT)
• Secret Agent Man (from the Television Series)
• See See Rider
• Seize The Day (from Disney's NEWSIES THE MUSICAL)
• Sending You Light
• Sensitive New Age Guys
• Sentimental Journey
• Senzenina
• Shalom Aleichem
• Shalom Rav
• Shalom Rav
• Shelter From The Storm
• Shenandoah
• Shine On
• Shoals Of Herring
• Shoo Fly, Don't Bother Me
• Shopping Is Therapy (My Favorite Things)
• Show The Way
• Shower The People
• Shtil Do Nakht
• Si Me Quieres Escribir
• Side By Side
• Silken Dreams
• Sim Shalom Round
• Sing A Song Of Sixpence
• Sing About These Hard Times
• Sing People Sing
• Singer Of Songs
• Singin' In The Rain (from SINGIN' IN THE RAIN)
• Singing Through The Hard Times
• Sisters Are Doing It For Themselves
• Sitting On Top Of The World
• Six Days On The Road
• Siyahamba (We Are Marching In The Light Of God)
• Skinnamarink (Skiddy-Mer-Rink-A-Doo)
• Small Town
• So Many Angels
• So Many Ways To Be Smart
• Softly And Tenderly (Tune Name: THOMPSON)
• Solar Topia
• The Soldier And The Sailor's Prayer
• Solo Le Pido A Dios
• Some Had Fathers
• Some Sweet Country
• Somebody Come And Play
• Someone Like You
• Someone To Watch Over Me (from OH, KAY!)
• (Something Inside) So Strong
• Somewhere To Begin
• Song For A Winter's Night
• Sonny's Dream
• Sons & Daughters
• Soon And Very Soon
• Soon I Will Be Done (Trouble Of The World)
• Sowing On The Mountain
• Speed Of The Sound Of Loneliness
• Spoon Of Sand
• Staines Morris
• Stand By Me (featured in the Motion Picture STAND BY ME)
• Star Trekkin'
• Stay With Me
• Still Small Voice
• Stones In The Road
• The Storm Is Passing Over
• Storms Are On The Ocean
• Straighten Up And Fly Right
• Stranger In Paradise (from KISMET)
• The Streets Of Old Quebec
• Suliram (Go To Sleep)
• Sulphur Passage
• The Sun Settles Down
• Sunny
• Suo Gan (Sleep My Baby)
• Surfin' U.S.A.
• Sweet Adeline (You're The Flower Of My Heart, Sweet Adeline)
• Sweet Betsy From Pike
• Sweet Caroline
• Sweet Georgia Brown
• Sweet Home Alabama
• Sweet Home Chicago
• Sweet Pea
• Sweet Roseanna
• Sweet Spot
• Sweet Sue-Just You (from RHYTHM PARADE)
• Sweet Thames Flow Softly
• Swinging On A Star (from GOING MY WAY)

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 07:28 AM

Still more....

• Tain't Nobody's Biz-ness If I Do
• Take It Easy
• Take Me Back To Tulsa
• Take 'Em Down
• Talk About Suffering
• Talkin' Bout A Revolution
• Talking Union
• Tanglewood Tree
• Te Recuerdo Amanda
• Tears In Heaven (featured in the Motion Picture RUSH)
• A Teenager In Love
• Telling Takes Me Home
• Thank God I'm A Country Boy
• Thanksgiving
• That Kind Of Grace
• That'll Be The Day
• That's All Right (featured in ELVIS, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS)
• That's The Way Love Goes
• That's The Way The World Goes 'Round
• Them Bones Gonna Rise Again
• There Goes The Mountain
• There Is Power In A Union
• There Is Power (IWW)
• There Was A Pig Went Out To Dig (Christmas Day In The Morning)
• There'll Be No Distinction There
• There'll Come A Day
• There's No Business Like Show Business (from the Stage Production ANNIE GET YOUR GUN)
• These Boots Are Made For Walkin'
• These Days
• They Can't Take That Away From Me (from THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY)
• They'll Know We Are Christians By Our Love
• They're Taking It Away
• The Things We've Handed Down
• This Old Town
• This Pretty Planet
• Three Little Birds
• The Three Ravens
• The Thrill Is Gone
• Throw These Guns Away
• The Tide Is High
• Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport
• Till There Was You (from Meredith Willson's THE MUSIC MAN)
• Time After Time
• Time In A Bottle
• Time To Remember The Poor
• Tip-Toe Thru' The Tulips With Me
• Tit-Willow (from THE MIKADO)
• The Titanic
• To Everyone In All The World
• To My Old Brown Earth
• Together We Can Move Mountains
• Tom Joad
• Tomorrow (from the Musical Production ANNIE)
• Touch The Sky (from the Walt Disney/Pixar film BRAVE)
• The Tracks Of My Tears
• Train On The Island
• Tree Of Life
• Tree Of Life
• The Trees Of The Field
• Trees Of The Wild
• Trouble In the Fields
• Trouble In This World
• True Colors
• Tumbling Tumbleweeds
• Turn The World Around
• Turn Your Radio Off
• The Twentieth Century Is Almost Over
• Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star
• Two Hands Hold The Earth
• Ukulele Lady
• Uncle John's Band
• Under The Boardwalk (from the Original Motion Picture BEACHES)
• Under The Bridge
• Under The Sea (from Walt Disney's THE LITTLE MERMAID)
• Underneath The Stars
• The Unicorn
• Unicornio
• Up Among The Heather
• Up On Cripple Creek
• Upside Down (from the Universal Pictures and Imagine Entertainment film CURIOUS GEORGE)
• Vatican Rag
• Vincent (Starry Starry Night)
• Viva La Vida
• Wagon Wheel
• Wahoo
• Waist Deep In The Big Muddy (The Big Muddy)
• Wake Up Little Susie
• Wal I Swan
• Walk Away Renee
• Walk Proud My Son
• Walkin' After Midnight
• Walking In Memphis
• Walkin' My Baby Back Home
• Walkin' On My Wheels
• Walls
• Wang Dang Doodle
• Mango Walk
• Wanting Memories
• Water, Sun, Earth And Sky
• Waterbound
• The Waves On The Sea
• Way Down The Old Plank Road
• The Way I Am
• Way Over Yonder In The Minor Key
• The Way You Do The Things You Do
• We Are Family
• We Are Soldiers In The Army
• We Are The Many
• We Are Young
• We Belong To The Earth
• We Gather Together (Tune Name: KREMSER)
• We Sail The Ocean Blue (from H.M.S. PINAFORE)
• We Shall Not Give Up The Fight
• We Shall Rise
• We Were There
• We Will Build This House
• We Won't Hold Back
• We'll Pass Them On
• We've Come This Far By Faith
• The Wearing Of The Green
• The Weight
• Welcome Table
• Welcome, Welcome Emigrante
• Well May The World Go
• What A Wonderful World (featured in the Motion Picture GOOD MORNING VIETNAM)
• What Can One Little Person Do?
• What I Want Is A Proper Cup Of Coffee
• What Will I Leave
• When A Soldier Makes It Home
• When I Go
• When I Lay My Burden Down
• When The Rain Comes Down
• When The Red, Red Robin Comes Bob, Bob Bobbin' Along (from I'LL CRY TOMORROW)
• When Will I Be Loved
• When You And I Were Young Maggie
• When You And I Were Young, Maggie
• When You Walk On
• When You Wish Upon A Star (from Walt Disney's PINOCCHIO)
• When You're Smiling (The Whole World Smiles With You)
• Where Are You
• Where Do The Children Play
• Where The Soul Of Man Never Dies
• Wherever You Go (I Love You)
• Whiskey In The Jar
• Whistle While You Work (from Walt Disney's SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS)
• The Whistling Gypsy
• White Christmas (from the Motion Picture Irving Berlin's HOLIDAY INN)
• Who Can Sail
• Who Knows Where The Time Goes
• Who Will Sing For Me?
• Who Will Sing Me Lullabies
• A Whole New World (from Disney ALADDIN)
• Why Am I Painting The Living Room?
• Why Do Fools Fall In Love
• Why Don't You Do Right (Get Me Some Money, Too!)
• Why Walk When You Can Fly
• Wide River To Cross
• Wild Rose Of The Mountain
• Wild World
• Wildwood Flower
• The Wind And The Rain
• Windy Old Weather
• Winter Wonderland
• Winter's Come And Gone
• Wisdom Train
• Witch Hazel
• With A Giggle And A Hug And A Tickle And A Kiss
• With Cat-Like Tread (from THE PIRATES OF PENZANCE)
• Within Our Darkest Night
• Women Be Wise
• Wondering Where The Lions Are
• Wooden Heart
• Woodstock
• Working On A Building
• World In Their Pocket
• The Worms Crawl In
• Wrap That Rascal
• Yakety Yak
• Ye Banks And Braes O' Bonnie Doon
• Yerushalaim Shel-zahav (Jerusalem, Jerusalem)
• Yes Sir, That's My Baby
• Y.M.C.A.
• Yolanda
• Yonder Come Day
• Y'All Come
• You And I
• You Are Not Alone
• You Belong To Me (from the DreamWorks Motion Picture SHREK)
• You Can't Always Get What You Want
• You Get A Little Extra When You Watch TV
• You Got To Know How
• You Gotta Move
• You Raise Me Up
• You Went The Wrong Way, Old King Louie
• You Won't See Me
• You'll Never Walk Alone (from CAROUSEL)
• You're My Home
• You're No Good
• You're Nobody 'til Somebody Loves You (featured in the Broadway Musical CONTACT)
• You've Got A Friend In Me (from Walt Disney's TOY STORY)
• You've Got To Be Carefully Taught (from SOUTH PACIFIC)
• You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
• You've Really Got A Hold On Me
• Your Cheatin' Heart
• Your Disco Needs You
• Your House Is Strong
• Your Long Journey
• Your Mama Don't Dance
• Your Song
• Your State's Name Here
• Zog Nit Keynmol

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: artbrooks
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 09:46 AM

Available in both regular and spiral binding (latter releases 8/28). Direct link at Amazon:"Rise Again".

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Also available from editors Peter Blood and Annie Patterson at https://www.riseupandsing.org/
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Janie
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 07:15 PM

You are amazing Joe. Clearly your efforts represent extensive labor of love.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: maeve
Date: 12 Aug 15 - 08:51 PM

Good work, Joe. Thanks for your efforts

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: michaelr
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 01:47 AM

Wow, Joe, that's huge - 1200 songs! How heavy is this tome? Or is it even more crammed than the original?

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 04:55 AM

Added to my Xmas wishlist.
RtS

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 04:56 AM

Hi, Michael. Both books have 1200 songs, and there are no duplications between the two. My PDF stops at page 287, but doesn't include the index. I'm guessing the final page count will be 300. Rise Up Singing had 281 pages, including the index. We're hoping the font in Rise Again is a bit more legible than what we had in Rise Up Singing.

I did a pretty full research job on every song, usually providing editor Peter Blood with more than one text to choose from. I tried to find two printed sources and two recordings for each song, relying on the Internet as a primary source only if I couldn't find a printed source - I often had twenty books stacked up next to my desk. Some songs took me half an hour to research, some a couple of days. We did the whole thing on Google Docs, which was great for a community effort like we were doing. I also tracked down the copyright holders Hal Leonard couldn't reach. I think I made contact with 100% of the copyright holders that Hal Leonard didn't get, but not all of them gave permission. It was cool to wake up one morning to a phone call from Iris Dement. All the others were contacts by email.

Now I'm working on the supplemental database. It will be on the Website for the book, and will provide links for each song (if available) for Wikipedia, Mudcat, the songwriter's Website, Roud, and the Traditional Ballad Index. Oh, and a YouTube link for almost every song, and I've made Spotify playlists for all the songs. I'm also collecting English translations for all of our foreign language songs. Mudcat's Monique did translations for all the French and Spanish songs, and several other Mudcatters helped in various ways. It's been a lot of fun to work on this.

-Joe-

P.S. I wonder if Barry Finn is spinning in his grave, now that his friend Joe Offer is associate editor of the sequel to the "Blue Book." The Devil made me do it, Barry...

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Will Fly
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 07:02 AM

Joe - I'm very impressed by your hard work and dedication.

I've never used a songbook in my life - always learned by heart whatever I've ever sung or played - except in those cases (usually at recording or backing sessions, or in a band I've just joined) where something unknown has been set down before me and I have to play it as is.

Nevertheless, we all have recourse to reference works from time to time - they can save hours of research - and we're indebted to people like you for their existence.

Thanks,

Will

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,#
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 05:16 PM

I do not buy stuff through Amazon. Is it available elsewhere?

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 07:03 PM

The book is available through Barnes & Noble, and I'm sure most booksellers can get it for you. You can also get it for an undiscounted price from the publisher, Hal Leonard. Also from Peter Blood and Annie Patterson's Website, https://www.riseupandsing.org/ - that's probably the best place.

Peter Blood told me last night that the large-format book is already available, although he hasn't seen a copy himself. I can't remember when I started getting PDF copies of sections of the book after they were laid out by Annie Patterson. I think it was April, maybe earlier. We got the completed book about June 1, and did proofreading until about July 1...with a few last-minute corrections after that.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 09:01 PM

I look forward to getting my hands on this!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,#
Date: 13 Aug 15 - 10:19 PM

Thanks for the info, Joe. Great work to you and Monique, btw.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: artbrooks
Date: 14 Aug 15 - 09:06 AM

Book ordered. Joe, is some sort of secret code going to be needed to access the online backup material?

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Aug 15 - 05:16 PM

Hi, Art -

I believe the backup material will be freely available to the public. We have YouTube links for almost every song, and I have the task of furnishing links (when available) for Wikipedia, Mudcat, Traditional Ballad Index, Roud, and songwriter Websites. We plan to have the Website up by September, but my part is going slowly. I have some 900 songs left to index, and I need my beauty rest.

I also made Spotify playlists for all the songs, but I'm wondering how to make sure everybody can find them. They're titled Rise Again - chaptertitle. Can anybody find them?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Aug 15 - 01:28 AM

So, I got my copy in the mail today, and I'm pretty proud. It's like having a new grandchild, or something like that.

...and I quickly found my first typo. I swear I corrected that one, but apparently the correction didn't "take." I'm sure I'll find more mistakes, but the book looks very good. I have to say there a good number of songs in the book that I don't like, but that's a reminder that I'm Associate Editor, not the Editor. Oh, well.

But I think we can be proud of the work we did on this book. I hope you all like it.

The Website for the book is https://www.riseupandsing.org/. We'll soon have a database of the songs in the book, with YouTube links, and links to further information on almost every song.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 21 Aug 15 - 11:09 PM

I'm probably going to have to go to my local bookstore and have them get it for me because I don't buy online.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 01:53 PM

Well.. now a crutch for BOTH arms? ;>)

I do not look forward to an additional list of songs (a couple of thousand now?) where people complain..or even interrupt... to say "you're singing it wrong"
as in
Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II
From: dick greenhaus - PM
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 11:43 AM

or
Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II
From: dick greenhaus - PM
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 05:05 PM

Ron Davies explained very well up in this thread how crib sheets **in general** are useful at times, but expecting everyone else to use the same crib sheet/book is not nice. I have not, like Barry Finn or Ron, walked out on a sing where The Book was used, but I cringe quietly. Fortunately, the FSGW Open Sing has only a couple who who use it. And the Getaway has only scattered occasions where it pops up.... and the Getaway has 3-7 other options at any one moment if one just cannot abide what is happening.

I do understand that Vol. 2 has made more of an attempt to avoid the most egregious errors and to pay 'more' attention to traditional versions of songs, but I have little doubt that it will still be used as The Bible, Book II by many.

I guess I'll just wait & see how it goes.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Aug 15 - 07:39 PM

Hi, Bill -
I worked very hard to try to ensure that the lyrics of all traditional songs in the book are authentic, and Editor Peter Blood accepted almost all my recommendations on the traditional songs. I typed up a caveat for the introduction to the book. I posted it above, but here it is again:
Here's the instruction box I've submitted for inclusion in the songbook:

As is the nature of Ballads and Old Songs, there are many versions of almost every song in this chapter, and in many other chapters in this book. There is no "correct" version of any traditional song, and the versions used here are certainly not intended to be the "definitive versions. For the most part, they were chosen simply because they are reasonably authentic versions that work well for group singing. When you sing a ballad or any old song, remember that the most important thing is to tell the story well. Research the many versions of a song when you learn it and listen to a number of recordings, and feel free to substitute words and verses and even melodies that work best for you. Make your presentation of the song clear and interesting and lively. Do your best to memorize the lyrics, and don't be afraid to make up a line or a verse "on the fly" if you forget. Don't be a slave to any particular version of the song - sing what works best for you. And never, never tell another singer that he/she is singing the "wrong" version of a song.

And here's how it ended up, after editing:

There are many versions of almost every "traditional" song in this book. There is no "correct" version of any traditional song, and the variants included here are in no way intended to be "definitive." For the most part, they were chosen because they are reasonably authentic versions that work well for group singing. Try researching different versions of a song you're learning and listening to a number of different recordings, Please don't use our books to tell another singer that he or she is singing the "wrong" version of a song! Songs in the public domain are indicated in this book with "Arr.© 2015 Hal Leonard Corporation." under the song. The publisher has copyright to this particular arrangement, but you do not have to get permission to record or reprint lyrics to the song itself. For any other song you must contact the copyright owner of the song for permission to use it in any way.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:50 AM

Joe... that is exactly the sort of admonition/disclaimer/warning/introduction this book needs, and I'm glad that it was included. The real problem is that it is mostly lost on those who need it the most.
People often post ...or ask about.... odd little songs from their childhood here. Yon Yonson, or Dunderbeck's Machine or recently, the one that refers to "Macedonians in full battle array"
Some one will give lyrics, and others will retype the whole thing to change one or two words! Even Dunderbeck's Machine gets argument that it should be "Johnny Rebeck". "That's the way my grandfather sang it!"
The same basic problem is seen when someone asks for the words...or chords... or tune... or all three... to some song 'covered' by someone famous, whether it is anywhere near traditional or not. They heard it that way first, and by golly, they don't WANT any corrections or suggestions!
The point is that far too many simply do-not-want to be exposed to 'new' versions... or even the author's original, if known. It is very like the resistance to new translations of the Bible by those brought up on the King James version. RUS #1 became a bible for a lot of people, and those who commit to a bible often have the notion that everyone else 'should' realize that the *truth* is somehow embedded in it.
This is not a serious problem when like minded people gather and turn to page 47 in unison... but when they appear at an open forum attended by more ...ummmm... eclectic.... folk and read (awkwardly) with the Book in their face, it makes the whole thing awkward.
   
It has been said that any book that gets people to sing & share is a good thing, and may be a first step to a wider view of traditional music.... the important term being 'may'.


(*grin* Joe... you even help make my point in your use of a tune for "The Key of R".... but perhaps the very concept embodied in the song excuses deviation. I don't see it listed in the Book.... maybe just as well.)

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Aug 15 - 06:40 PM

Hi, Bill - gee, I thought our discussions on "Yon Yonson" and "Dunderbeck" were exemplary exchanges of great examples of the Folk Process. I didn't notice anyone saying that theirs was the only correct version.

Oh, and in Wisconsin, it's "Johnny Verbeck." "Dunderbeck" is the commercial version of the song, sung by people who don't really know....

My version was made up by kids who used to be in my Boy Scout troop....I think.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Aug 15 - 07:48 PM

I participate in two well led singing communities that use RUS, and each one also has a self-compiled (printed) collection of songs. I've started a third, as recently described elsewhere.

Each of these groups uses not only RUS and their own songbook, but one another's collections as well. Both groups quite happily welcomed (and actively supported) my starting the third group.

In none of these does anyone object to playing together from the books to learn a new piece, and once they're familiar with a song many members add lovely improvised or harmony parts-- there are no Book Police. And just like Mudcat threads, if an individual wants to add a second or third arrangement to the book, that's fine too.

General agreement to singing or playing in the key set by the person choosing the song is just about the only requirement.... except that in an effort to keep folk and bluegrass distinct, one group frowns on banjos.

People in these groups (and leading th may not be total purists who conform to some other leaders' notions of what the rules ought to be-- but they do sound like they're having the kind of fun Pete Seeger described in RUS. They're growing in numbers-- and in songs enjoyed.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Aug 15 - 09:30 PM

Some of my best friends view Rise Up Singing users with disdain. It hurts sometimes, since I've been identified with the book since almost the very beginning. And now I'm associate editor of the sequel, and what are they going to think of me now?

I suppose I have to accept the fact that we all think of each other as caricatures, and those caricatures allow us to know so little about what people are in reality. Some people who use Rise Up Singing are really obnoxious and are really horrible singers, and they fit the caricature. Other people who use the book are actually quite enjoyable to listen to, so much so that we forget that they're looking at a book while they're singing.

And I suppose it will be the same with Rise Again. Hell, even Bill Day would disdain me....if he didn't know me.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 09:04 AM

JOE--

Is an index for RUS ONE already posted some where? If not, I have one I can email you. (I'm working on a cross reference of the two to carry in my sing bag.)

~S~

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Corn Field
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 11:50 AM

I pre-ordered the one that is described as "Spiral Bound" on Amazon.
The photo for the one that is currently shipping shows it is also spiral bound.
Are both the normal and large print versions spiral bound?

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 12:53 PM

Hi, Corn Field -

All the Rise Again books I've seen are spiral bound, and I've seen hundreds. I asked editor Peter Blood, and he's not certain what bindings Hal Leonard is going to come up with. The "paperback" book that's currently $16.03 at Amazon, has a cover that's 9 inches by 12 inches. The "spiral-bound" book that's listed as $25 at Amazon. has a smaller size, 7.5 by 10 inches - and it's temporarily out of stock. So, for now, the larger format is cheaper at Amazon. I ordered a dozen of the cheaper books, and was surprised to get them in large format.

On their concert tour, Peter Blood and Annie Patterson are selling the large books for $25 and the small ones for $20, tax included. The large books were printed first, about August 15. I'm guessing the small books started printing about the end of August. We're having trouble keeping up with demand on the small books right now, but I imagine things will balance out by sometime in October.

Sing Out! did print some "perfect-bound" (glued, not spiral) versions of Rise Up Singing, but the spiral bound books have been far more popular. My guess is that Hal Leonard will stick with spiral binding for both sizes of both books.

I went to Peter and Annie's weekend workshop at the Quaker Center in the redwoods of Ben Lomond, California, over Labor Day. It was delightful. In their sessions, Peter and Annie concentrated on songs the audience wasn't likely to know. During free time, groups gathered in various locations to try out other stuff. We had a lot of fun with the Motown, Rock, British Invasion, and Surfin' chapters. Not particularly folk music, but it sure was fun.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: maeve
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 01:43 PM

Joe, thank you for your hard and sometime frustrating work on this edition of 'Rise Again'. I very much appreciate your care in selecting lyric versions with a view toward accuracy and understanding of the way songs can flex, and stating the intended use for the book. Those who understand how to use it will benefit, and the others are at least trying to sing.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 10 Sep 15 - 11:07 PM

I'm hoping to get to the concert at Sandywoods in Tiverton, RI, and buy my copy there. Joe, the price for copies there seems different from what you indicated.https://www.riseupandsing.org/events/rise-again-providence

Sandywoods is not in Providence. It is in the far northeastern corner of RI, and the best way for me to get there is to drive from my RI home through several MA communities including Fall River and re-enter RI!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Sep 15 - 12:59 AM

Yeah, Chantey Lass, you're right about the price difference. For now, Amazon is selling the books for less than the discounted price Peter and Annie can sell them for - and for some reason, they're selling the large-format book cheaper than the small one.

If you want the large-format book, order it for $16.03 plus tax from Amazon. If you want the small-format book, order it from Peter & Annie for $20, taxes paid.

Sooner or later, Amazon will find out it has the prices mixed up.

-Joe-

P.S. Oh, and Chanty Lass - for people who have no ties to Rhode Island, everything that isn't Newport, is Providence.
I know better, because I married a Woonsocket girl who isn't even French...(her first language was Polish, but she's a vegetarian and I'm the one who loves Polish food).

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Oct 15 - 10:54 AM

I know that people from elsewhere think RI has only two communities, Newport and Providence, but I didn't want anyone thinking they could have dinner in Prov. and be only a few minutes from the concert venue which is about a half-hour drive to Tiverton!

I've got a ticket and book reserved for me by a friend who does money stuff online. I don't, and hoping to get a ticket at the door is a chance I don't want to take.

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,bbc
Date: 19 Oct 15 - 09:55 PM

Got my copy, Joe! Thanks for your hard work!

Best always,

Barbara

Subject: Rise Again Songbook
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 29 Oct 15 - 05:14 AM

My birthday copy arrived -wrapped up in a useful sack! Great selection, a tribute to all your hard work, Joe and friends.

RtS

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 29 Oct 15 - 08:33 PM

I didn't realize my cookie had crumbled when I posted on Oct. 19 at 10:54 AM. I had fun singing along on Sunday evening with Peter and Annie, Bill Harley, Charlie King, and Magpie. I came home with the book I'd pre-ordered plus two more to give as gifts plus two copies of Rise Up Singing to give as gifts. I've had my own copy of RUS for many years.   I am now happy and broke but have only a few more Christmas presents to buy!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Oct 15 - 04:13 AM

Hi, Joe - I think "Battle Hymn" was skipped because it was too commonly known, so there wouldn't be a great need for it in a book.
"St. Louis Blues" would be a good one for the list I'm compiling for Book #3.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 30 Oct 15 - 04:43 AM

Previously I posted to the wrong thread. As I've said on the MC FB page, I had a mysterious sack to open on my birthday and it was Rise Again. What a wonderful selection, popular as well as traditional. Well done, Joe and collaborators.
RtS

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Rex
Date: 18 Dec 15 - 08:28 PM

I got a copy of Rise Again a few months ago. I followed Joe's suggestion and ordered the lower price (and larger with ring binding) version. After taking my time looking through it all I am very pleased to have it in my library. I was happy to see it similar in format to Rise Up Singing and Winds of the People that came before. There are many of my old favorites and new material placed in thoughtful subject sets. Even with cross referencing! Nice. But perhaps the best part of Rise Again are the gems I am finding that I never knew existed. Thank you to Joe and everyone that put this together. A songbook for those who know their way around a song or a concert hall and also for those who do not.

Rex

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Dec 15 - 09:11 PM

Thanks, Rex.
I don't know why Hal Leonard makes such small print runs, but I'm glad the first run was small - the index had wrong page numbers for about 100 songs. There are lyrics corrections and a link to the index correction sheet here:

https://www.riseupandsing.org/songs/corrections

The second printing came out in October, with a corrected index. We sold out the second printing in mid-November. I think that means we've sold 40,000 copies. The third printing came out this week. I'm hoping to get restocked by Christmas.

As Rex says, Amazon doesn't have its prices straight, so they're charging a bargain price for the large-format edition, cheaper than you can get it from me or from the editors, Peter Blood and Annie Patterson.

But to my mind, the best way to get the book is to order it from the editors, Peter Blood and Annie Patterson:

https://www.riseupandsing.org/products

They're nice people and this is how they make their living. They'll give you a 20% discount if you buy 5 copies, and an even better discount if you buy boxes of 15 copies.

I have a supply of books that I sell to people in Northern California, but I can sell you a copy if you have problems getting one from other sources. If you are outside the United States, the best way to get the book may be to go to the Amazon address that serves your area. I've had some problems with that. I sent a copy to Jack Campin through http://amazonUK.mudcat.org. The next day, I tried to send a copy to Tattie Bogle the same way, and it didn't work. So, I paid the horrendous postage and sent it direct to her. Whether she liked it or not, Tattie Bogle got a copy autographed by Associate Editor Joe Offer, which I'm not sure is something that adds value to the book...

I cringe every time I find a mistake in the book, but I guess the adage that "shit happens" is true. We're collecting corrections, and we will include all of them in a future edition. We can't add all the corrections as they come in, because it costs a lot to make new plates if the old ones aren't worn out. We corrected the index because that was essential, but a new edition with song corrections won't come for a while. So far, the only song that is totally screwed up is "Four/Seven Nights Drunk," which has corrections on the Website. There are lots more minor corrections - those are the ones that make me cringe. I wish they could be corrected right away, but I'm told we have to wait.

If you have any corrections to submit, send them to me.

I guess it's the same with any such project - there will always be some mistakes, and there will always be some things that could have been better. But all in all, I think it's a very good songbook, and I'm glad to have had a part in making it.

-Joe Offer-
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Dec 15 - 07:15 PM

I made Spotify playlists for each chapter of Rise Again, but I haven't been able to make them work the way I want them to. I'd like to have them work for people without them having to "follow" me.
How's this link?

I think you have to be registered with Spotify for it to work, but maybe not.

-Joe-

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Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: GUEST,TomC
Date: 01 Jan 16 - 11:22 PM

Joe, I found some incorrect lyrics in a song when compared to the sheet music version. Where can the corrections be sent?

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Hi, Tom - There will be room for that on the riseupandsing.org Website when we get it finished (soon, I hope). In the meantime, send them to me, [e-mail]
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 16 - 11:45 PM

At the monthly song circle of the San Diego Folk Song SOciety, founded long ago by no less a personage than Sam Hinton, the chairman was full of glee at having sacquired this surprising, exciting new volume of Singing. He gloated and shared with rare enthusiasm, especially because he'd gotten an edition in large text. Your fame is spreading!

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jan 16 - 02:47 AM

Here's a list of Spotify playlist links for each chapter in the Rise Again Songbook:

Ballads & Old Songs
Blues
British Invasion
Country
Dignity & Diversity
Dreams & Mystery
Earthcare
Faith
Family
Farm & Prairie
Freedom
Friendship & Community
Funny Songs
Golden Oldies
Good Times
Gospel & Sprituals
Healing & Letting Go
Home & Roots
Hope & Strength
Jazz & Swing
Love
Lullabies
Millennial Songs
Motown and R&B
Musicals
Old-Timey & Bluegrass
Outdoors
Peace
Play
Pub Songs
Rich & Poor
Rock Around the Clock
Seas & Sailors
Sing People Sing
Struggle
Surfin' USA
Time & Changes
Travelin'
Work

If you're a member of Spotify and you're logged in, the link should take you direct to the playlist. If you're not a Spotify member, the link will lead you to the form where you can sign up for membership - which is free (at least for now).

Hope you enjoy these songs.

-Joe Offer, Associate Editor-
Rise Again Songbook

Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing Book II: 'Rise Again'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Feb 16 - 03:48 AM

Here's a link to the YouTube channel for the Rise Again and Rise Up Singing Songbooks:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7P-NeANlnLRabSNvsXWMyQ

Here are some other playlists for songs from Rise Up Singing:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2035E98D39208480

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1b_AuWEtUQXCFI54Cnt28g