BS: Should a lady make the first move?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 10:48 AM

Sometimes it paid to be blunt when I was divorced the first time and barely drinking age. I went out to bars wth live music several times per month. It got to where if a guy offered to buy me a drink, I'd look him in the eye and tell him, "Thanks, that would be fine as long as you know I am not going to f*** you for it." Most of them expressed relief that we'd gotten THAT question out of the way, even if it wasn't exactly what they were hoping for.We'd usually have a nice evening of dancing and talk, OR, they'd go try it on someone else. That was many years ago, pre-AIDS, but it did seem the prevalent implication, i.e. if a fellow bought a girl drinks, she would have sex with him. I do still favour upfront communication.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 11:26 AM

There seems to be a general understanding that most people of both sexes would like to have a close, intimate relationship with someone else...usually of the opposite sex. Thus, if two people are spending some time together, and both are aware that the other have no current marriage or other close relationship, it is usual to wonder if THIS could, or should, become one.
   There can be all sorts of reasons why someone is NOT willing to "go further", and it is not always easy to provide details, but it is usually best to politely state where they stand, if not why.
   So, someone has to ask, hint, make a move...etc...in order to clarify the situation. In the case of 'guest', this was done....and whether these two people continue to enjoy each other as 'company' is between them.
   It is perfectly possible to continue to meet, date and enjoy the company of someone without expectations of it becoming intimate, but it is always good for both parties to be aware of whether the other is seeking a relationship with intimacy...whether marriage or otherwise.

   There...I hope that was sufficiently vague and neutral.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 12:01 PM

" There...I hope that was sufficiently vague and neutral."

There's a future for you in Canadian politics, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: kendall
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 12:22 PM

There are things that need to be clarified before you marry, but you shouldn't wait until the wedding day.

A young couple were on their way to Las Vegas to get married. She was visibly nervous, and finally, she said to him, "Look, before we marry, there is something you need to know about me, and you may change your mind about getting married. I don't have hardly any boobs at all. He said, "So what? I'm going to marry you, not your boobs. And, while we are doing the confession thing, I have to tell you something too. Below my waist I'm like a new born baby." She said, "That's ok, size isn't everything."
So, they got married, and that night in the bridal suite, she got ready for bed, dropped her dress and sure enough, very small boobs.
He dropped his pants and she fainted. When she came around, he said, "I told you I'm like a newborn below my waist" and she stammered, "I know, but my God, 9 pounds, 18 inches?"

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Schantieman
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 12:29 PM

...or, indeed, in British.

S

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 01:05 PM

If ladies don't make the first move, how will they make a living at it?

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: autolycus
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 01:49 PM

Perhaps I canb put my dilemma another way.

   Are there at least two sorts of lady, those prepared to take the initiative, and those who are not?

   And is there a way to distinguish between a lady waiting to be asked and a lady who is not interested? They can look interchangeable.

   Thanks.






       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 02:04 PM

The lady waiting to be asked will drop her handkerchief at a convenient moment. That's the gentleman's cue to make his move.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,Marion
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 03:08 PM

(I WANT TO BE) SEDUCED
(Gary Richard Tigerman)

Recorded by : Peggy Lee; Leon Redbone; Richard Dreyfuss.


I wanna be seduced,
Let a woman talk to me suggestively;
Wanna know that she'd like me to be with her tomorrow morning
Drinkin' hot jasmine tea.
I want her to make me laugh (ha ha ha),
Make a point about touching me when she talks (uhhmm ho ho hmm),
Leaving all the jealous guys in the place to
mumble in their wine and gawk.
I know it only happens when I'm napping,
Nodding in a reverie,
That I find myself a woman that understands about seducing me.

I know it only happens when I'm napping,
Nodding in a reverie,
That I find myself a woman who understands about seducing,
I'll dream about the moon until she'll introduce herself,
I'm imagining a woman who understands seducing me.

I want to be seduced, I want a woman to take me out to dinner for two
I want to see her eyes gettin' moody,
Flirtin' with the thought of what flirtin' can lead to
I want to act real cool, have her think about gettin' little me in bed
Have a chat about Magna Charta, or Puerto Vallarta, or somethin' Gandhi said

I might demur politely, falter slightly, if she starts to fondle my knee,
But I'm relatively certain I'd compromise if I know me

I want to be seduced, I want a wom-an to talk to me suggestively
I want to hear her say she'll be with me tomorrow morning,
Drinking hot jasmine tea

I want her to make me laugh, make a point of touching me when she talks
Leaving all the jealous guys in the joint to mumble in their beer and gawk

I wanna be seduced,
I wanna a woman to take me out to dinner for two;
I'd like to see her eyes get moony
Flirting with the thought of what a little flirting outta to do.
I'd like to be real cool
Let her figure out what I really mean, instead
of havin' a chat about African genesis, psychokinesis
or something Stanislavsky said.

I might demure politely,
Or falter slightly
If she tries to fondle my knee,
But I'm relatively certain that I'd come across if I know me.

I know it only happens, when I'm napping, nodding in my reverie
That I ever find a woman who wouldn't mind seducing me
I know it only happens, when I'm napping, nodding in my reverie
That I ever find a woman who wouldn't mind seducing
Starting from the moment that we'd been introduced
That I ever find a woman who wouldn't mind seducing me

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,Bloke
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 05:37 PM

Look, if a bloke wants a shag it doesn't mean he wants a relationship. If he has a good shag it might lead to a relationship. But by and large a relationship with a woman is a lot of trouble.

Also, he might quite fancy a shag but be worried about his own body image or lack of practice.

If you (woman) fancy a shag, ask. At least you are unlikely to be accused of sexcrime as a result.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Rowan
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 05:38 PM

Great song! I haven't heard it for years but it's spot on!

Cheers Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 05:53 PM

Hmmmmm?

The ol' "dropped hankie" trick, eh??? Better not try it in this holler 'er when ya' bend over to pick it up one of these holler gentlemen will most certainly make his move...

Awwww, jus' funnin', but let's get real here... This ain't the late 1890's when the dropped hankie might bring on a suitable suiter...

Meanwhile, I'm stickin' with my oroginal advice some 3000 or 4000 posts ago to say "Hey, can we talk???"....

Bobert Juan

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,memyself
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 06:25 PM

"let's get real here... This ain't the late 1890's when the dropped hankie might bring on a suitable suiter..."

By jingo, I'll bet that explains why no dame has dropped the hanky for me since 1896! And here all this time I thought it must be my old-fashioned notions that were scaring off these "flappers" and "New Women" and "'It' Girls". Well, blow me if you don't learn something everyday! By cracky, Bobert, I surely am grateful to you for catching me up with these modern times ...

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 07:10 PM

Nowadays they just drop their knickers (assuming they had any on to begin with) and hitch up their skirt.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: kendall
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 07:27 PM

That's what I mean by "equal opportunity"

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Dec 06 - 09:16 PM

An' in the words of Donnie, "I'm a drunk" Pettit, who would jump on anything, hanky or not, providin' they had a recent pulse....

... get her done!!!

Myself??? Hey, I got some morals and would more than likely pick up the hanky an' say, "Next time, jus' answer the door in somethin' skimpy..."

Like Donnie says...

... get her done!!!

Bobert Juan

(Ans then the Bobert woke up...)

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: Pauline L
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 01:50 AM

Say it with a song. There are plenty of songs that address the issue. One of my favorites includes the lines

I long to see you in the morning light.
I long to reach for you in the night.

*Sigh* One of my favorite romantic songs.

Subject: RE: BS: Should a lady make the first move?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 04:36 AM

Oh katlaughing, you certainly had me laughing when I read the final words of your post at 10:48AM.
"I do still favour upfront communication."

Giok