BS: ICE - the winter kind

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 11:13 AM

The storms are stacked up across the country, one winter front following another. The new one with more below zero temps and more snow is moving in here today.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 02:21 PM

"... consolatio." I am soooo tempted.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Amos
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 02:28 PM

A fell impulse on your part, good Gnus. :D


A

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 05:00 PM

The weather is nasty.

It took me an hour to drive what normally takes me 30 minutes home. While it was only slow and tedious at first, once I got through Lee Traffic Circle, my wipers started to freeze up. By the time I turned onto Freeman Hall Road, I could barely see. Stopped and de-iced in the Baptist's car park and thus made it safely home.

Realized as I was walking down the driveway (that's DOWNhill) that white on white while walking down hill makes me dizzy.

Needed a hot buttered rum to de-dizzify myself.

Really glad I came home instead of going to the Press Room session, but missing the Press Room session seriously sucks since we had to miss last week.

The good news is, tomorrow should be fine weather for the sea music/seasonal/ballad monthly session. Which will make us feel better (a little bit, maybe) if we have to miss Sunday's music party because of the expected Nor'easter.

Geez, it isn't even Christmas and I'm sick of winter.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 06:01 PM

Knock on wood, Linn...no broken limbs this year!:-)

Stay safe and warm, folks!

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 06:16 PM

Oh my.... you spake the unspakable... LINN! Stay IN!!!

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 10:20 PM

Wot?! I coulda meant tree limbs! (Not, I know, I know! Guess I'll join Kendall in the cellar.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 10:18 AM

Where's my post? I posted this several hours ago. It WAS here. I read it. Skidded off the road and into the ditch?

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 10:19 AM

Oops... I posted IT several hours ago...

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 02:17 PM

The local electric company is congratulating themselves on a good job almost well done. ALMOST- I'm part of the exclusive club still without power in New Hampshire!

It's a 19th century Christmas season. The Solstice has never held such meaning for me before!

Send me some electrons, please, Catters!

Allison-at-the-cafe

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 02:49 PM

You have a wood stove, right? Geez - no heat, lights, TV, wait a minute - you're on a computer. Hmmmmm...DOH at the cafe.

Sorry Allison.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 03:17 PM

I have a Crappy Tire (Canadian Tire) Eliminator 800

That sucker will keep you in touch with the world. Or power a 13W light for a long while. And, you can charge one to full capacity from your vehicle in several hours. Or from a generator for SFA loss while the gennie is running other things.

I highly recommend them. Unfortunate that the price of them has gone up in the past while. But, since I make my living by being on the world wide communication networks, I gotta have em.

Right now, I gotta split some more kindlin for the stove. Keeps me warm.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 03:34 PM

I've been trying to reach some of the neighbors on my street to see if we can pitch in together to pay for an ATV plow to do snow removal on the sidewalks this winter. Our town tickets your house and fines you a heavy fine for not shoveling within 24 hours of the end of a snowfall. I'm not there enough to do it myself, and Ryan lives too far to get there every day. Someone on the block hired a person to run a little plow up and down the sidewalk (a 2 block neighborhood) and I'm trying to find that guy to see if we can pay for it as a group this winter.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 06:49 PM

Hallelulia! Hallelulia!
Everything is Illuminated!
Oh, glory how happy I am!
How can I keep from singing?

Yes, to wood stove, but hooray for lights on the tree, music on the stereo, hot water for washing dishes, and my folks coming HERE for Christmas dinner (but better yet- since they assumed they'd be cooking it, they're cooking it and bringing it here!).


Am I giddy yet?

Wheeeeeeeeee!!

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: maeve
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 06:52 PM

Hip hip huzzah, Allison!

maeve

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 07:25 PM

It was a dark and stormy night...

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 09:08 AM

So far, October, November and December.

Case in point... forecast is -20C tonight, -10 tomorrow, +10C with rain on Sunday. Then, winter will start again.

Oh, yeah.... Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada. Haven't mentioned that lately.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 09:32 AM

Tami, the Good, shovelled out my back porch and walkway only to discover the hated ice dam. Thanks to gnu's advice I was at the ready with salt and pantihose. Nature helped with rain and 40 degree temperatures. Strange - this happened on a section of the roof that has never dammed before.

And once again I have what appear to be human limbs stuck up on the roof.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 10:00 AM

Wha??? My last post was in response to a GUEST post which has been removed. ??? It asked when winter starts... it was from UK, I believe, as it said that winter starts in UK about mid-Jan.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 11:23 AM

Pantihose? I missed the pantihose advice... how does that work??

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 11:33 AM

let it snow... Let It Snow... LET IT SNOW!

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 11:45 AM

Alice, you take an old pair of panty hose and stuff them with rock salt, throw them up onto the roof where ice dams happen and they will melt the ice. I use old socks because I don't wear panty hose.

"Rudolph the red nose reindeer has a very shiny nose he has a drinking problem, now he's wearing panty hose..."
(Eric Bogle)

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: Alice
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 11:51 AM

gotcha
clever idea

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 12:24 PM

But... don't use plain old salt. Use the stuff that doesn't harm asphalt (many packages say "concrete"... that is perfect). Many are just called de-icer.

Place the socks/pantyhose or even just the "salt" every four to five feet. The objective is to make a drain through, or even under, the ice so water can drain.

If you are using only de-icer, it's nice if you can make an "indentation" in the ice at the upper edge of the ice so the de-icer can lay in the indentation. Just try not to damge the roofing.

There's lots of good info at CMHC.ca

Oh... of course, if all you have is regular salt, it's better than thousands of dollars of repairs.

Subject: RE: BS: ICE - the winter kind
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 08 - 12:30 PM

BTW.... many roofers will actually try to get away with not installing "eave protection". I swear it's the truth. I have seen it many times, even on NEW houses! Make sure your roofer installs it and does it right.

Of course, eave protection is really just a backup. Proper insulation and ventilation is the key. Again, CMHC has lots of good info on how to do things right... and wrong.